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Growing evidence that "Russian collusion" was a set up...

Discussion in 'Latest Political News and Current Events' started by Raoul_Luke, Apr 6, 2018.

  1. Raoul_Luke

    Raoul_Luke When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro...

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    Papadoupolis was the dupe in a classic "sting" operation. It turns out the guy who gave him the "Russian collusion" goods, Professor Joseph Mifsud, has ostensible ties to British intelligence that would seem to discount the theory that he was working for Russia when he told Papadoupolis that the Russians had "dirt" on Hillary and they wanted to use it to help Trump win:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...vidence-emerges-mifsuds-links-uk-intelligence

    Yeah, I know, it's Zerohedge, but facts are facts. So what we have here is a likely Brit intel asset telling Papadoupolis that "the Russians wanted to help Trump" which he then drunkenly spills weeks later to an Aussie with strong ties to the Clinton Foundation. That is a classic set-up with the patsy in the middle.

    Where are the, you know, actual Russians in any of that???
     
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  2. EatTheRich

    EatTheRich President

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    And it's coincidental that 3 high-level members of the Trump campaign including the campaign chair actually did go to a meeting with the described purpose of getting assistance from the Russian government?
     
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  3. justoffal

    justoffal Senator

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    Hillary lost
     
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  4. Raoul_Luke

    Raoul_Luke When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro...

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    You mean the one set up by this guy?

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...nald-trump-jr-s-russia-link-article-1.3318107

    Who set up a meeting with these people representing the "Russian government?"

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ative-before-and-after-trump-jr-sit-down.html
     
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  5. Bugsy McGurk

    Bugsy McGurk President

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    In Trumplandia, the Team Trump/Kremlin meeting in Trump Tower for the express purpose of collusion was not collusion.

    ;-)
     
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  6. Raoul_Luke

    Raoul_Luke When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro...

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    What is was…was entrapment. Stupid, a rookie mistake, but not the least bit criminal.

    As for it being about "collusion"…it wasn't. It ended up a discussion about the Magnitsky Act. It was a classic bait and switch set up...
     
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  7. Bugsy McGurk

    Bugsy McGurk President

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    Please. Outside of Trumplandia your collusion-was-not-collusion hooey is laughable. Save it for your winger pals.
     
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  8. Raoul_Luke

    Raoul_Luke When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro...

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    I see you won't even entertain the accounts that these "Russians" met both before AND after this meeting, with people from the very firm that Hillary (and the DNC, and the FBI) paid to create the phony "dossier." Typical!
     
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  9. Bugsy McGurk

    Bugsy McGurk President

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    Again, your lunacy is wasted on sane people. Collusion is collusion.
     
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  10. marvin martian

    marvin martian Senator

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    Your MASSIVE dodge is noted.
     
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  11. Dawg

    Dawg President Supporting Member

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    when all they had to do was paid for a Dossier
     
  12. Dawg

    Dawg President Supporting Member

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    As Mueller hasn't been able to prove in a year+
    He needs hire bugsy to shine his shoes
     
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  13. Dawg

    Dawg President Supporting Member

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    DOUBLE DODGE
     
  14. Jen

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    Of course it was a set up.
     
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  15. EatTheRich

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    EatTheRich President

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    1. He hasn't been at it a year yet.
    2. I think you're in for a shock if his report comes out.
     
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    Dawg President Supporting Member

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    will not effect my life either way
     
  18. Raoul_Luke

    Raoul_Luke When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro...

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    Again, YOUR dodge is noticed. Collusion takes two - and unless you are suggesting the Trump team was "colluding" with Hillary's campaign, then this wasn't, in fact, "collusion" at all...
     
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    Raoul_Luke When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro...

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    Of course, but who was he doing it for? The meeting turned out to have absolutely zero to do with "Clinton dirt" as he had advertised it. So he set it up on false pretenses - that much isn't even in contention - because if it had been about what it was advertised to be, someone would be in jail right now. It was either about the Magnitsky Act from the get go and they thought it was the best way to get team Trump to support their position on it (by lying to them - I agree, that sounds absurd) or it was for some other purpose, such as putting team Trump in a room with Russians for the avowed purpose that they'd get dirt on Hillary. The fact that the "Russians" who attended the meeting have obvious ties to the firm that produced the "dossier:"

    http://www.knssradio.com/articles/russian-lawyer-met-fusion-gps-after-trump-jr-meeting

    If Goldstone had been some random American, or an Eritrean, or, gasp, a Russian, then it wound't look so fishy. But he's a Brit, and you have to ask yourself - is he also an intel asset (like Mifsud appears to be)? I don't think you'll have to dig too deep to find that he is.

    I understand that you guys have to go to great lengths to avoid that part of this story, but I enjoy beating you over the head with it so avoid away...
     
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  20. Constitutional Sheepdog

    Constitutional Sheepdog ][][][%er!!!!!!!

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    Who needs Russia to create division in America when you had obama and U.S. mainstream media for 8 years and U.S. mainstream media continues the course for a division in America.
     
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