Here’s What Happened When Maine Forced People to Actually Work for Welfare

[ya-ta-hey]

What program works? Welfare, which works throughout the U.S.? Or Maine's program, which achieves nothing that other states' programs don't achieve besides undercutting union wages and condemning the small minority of long-term unemployed (often people on blacklists, with serious illnesses, caring full-time for dependents in severe need, in areas with low employment, without permanent addresses, and/or with a teaspoon too much melanin in their skin), to lives of crime or destitution?

Mr. Rich,

My apologies. I did not realize you had reading comprehension problems.

I will try to make it simple for you.

The top poster was touting the virtues of Maine's welfare program because they instituted a policy to make reciepients perform at least 20 hours of work, voluntary or otherwise before they could recieve benefits.

Welfare bums, realizing they would have to get off their fat asses to get what used to be free money, looked for other ways to grift the system, such that only the truly needy remained on the program, drastically dropping the welfare rolls.

Ergo, Maine's program is working like a charm.

 

[EatTheRich]

Mr. Rich,

My apologies. I did not realize you had reading comprehension problems.

I will try to make it simple for you.

The top poster was touting the virtues of Maine's welfare program because they instituted a policy to make reciepients perform at least 20 hours of work, voluntary or otherwise before they could recieve benefits.

Welfare bums, realizing they would have to get off their fat asses to get what used to be free money, looked for other ways to grift the system, such that only the truly needy remained on the program, drastically dropping the welfare rolls.

Ergo, Maine's program is working like a charm.

And, again, I pointed out that all evidence shows that "welfare bums" are essentially mythical. What Maine's policy has done is to deny those people who are unable to get jobs, and their children, food.

 

[ya-ta-hey]

And, again, I pointed out that all evidence shows that "welfare bums" are essentially mythical. What Maine's policy has done is to deny those people who are unable to get jobs, and their children, food.

Mr. Rich,

I really do hate to make you look the fool, time after time, but you really should read what you think you know that you are talking about before you throw out one of your rediculous retorts:

"Out of the 12,000 non-disabled welfare recipients without children who were on the rolls last year, only 2,680 remain as of now..."

and

...they (are now) required to work at least twenty hours per week, volunteer or attend vocational training..."

 

[EatTheRich]

Mr. Rich,

I really do hate to make you look the fool, time after time, but you really should read what you think you know that you are talking about before you throw out one of your rediculous retorts:

"Out of the 12,000 non-disabled welfare recipients without children who were on the rolls last year, only 2,680 remain as of now..."

and

...they (are now) required to work at least twenty hours per week, volunteer or attend vocational training..."

That doesn't contradict anything I said. There are people who are deemed non-disabled by the state who are unable to get jobs (their disabilities aren't recognized by penny-pinching bureaucracies; they are caring for other adults who can't care for themselves; they aren't willing to cross picket lines; they lack transportation; employers simply won't hire them; etc.). They may be unable to volunteer or attend vocational training for similar reasons. People do not just go on welfare because they are lazy--they go on it because they need it to live. And what Maine did is force thousands and thousands of these people into destitution and crime.

 

[ya-ta-hey]

That doesn't contradict anything I said. There are people who are deemed non-disabled by the state who are unable to get jobs (their disabilities aren't recognized by penny-pinching bureaucracies; they are caring for other adults who can't care for themselves; they aren't willing to cross picket lines; they lack transportation; employers simply won't hire them; etc.). They may be unable to volunteer or attend vocational training for similar reasons. People do not just go on welfare because they are lazy--they go on it because they need it to live. And what Maine did is force thousands and thousands of these people into destitution and crime.

Mr. Rich,

Too lazy to get off your ass and work is not a disability. What Maine did was to tell the welfare bums they can be bums all they want, but not on the public dime.

 

[EatTheRich]

Mr. Rich,

Too lazy to get off your ass and work is not a disability. What Maine did was to tell the welfare bums they can be bums all they want, but not on the public dime.

And those "bums" are now going hungry in their elementary schools.

 

[ya-ta-hey]

And those "bums" are now going hungry in their elementary schools.

Mr. Rich,

Why would people over the age of 18, without kids, and able to work go to elementary school?

LOL, see how silly you sound?