Here's what your $15 per hour fast food wages get you

[Bernard_Fokke]

Fired and replaced by a robot, not unexpected.



The new burger chef makes $3 an hour and never goes home.
Off-the-shelf robot arms have plunged in price in recent years, from more than $100,000 in 2016, when Miso Robotics first launched, to less than $10,000 today, with cheaper models coming in the near future.

As a result, Miso can offer Flippys to fast-food restaurant owners for an estimated $2,000 per month on a subscription basis, breaking down to about $3 per hour. (The actual cost will depend on customers’ specific needs). A human doing the same job costs $4,000 to $10,000 or more a month, depending on a restaurant’s hours and the local minimum wage. And robots never call in sick.



If the cost of hardware hadn’t gone down so quickly, Miso’s business model would never have worked, said Buck Jordan, the company’s chief executive. “We took a bet,” he said. “A risky bet. But it’s paying off.”

So far, early versions of Flippy have put in time on the line at Dodger Stadium and at locations of CaliBurger, a small quick-serve chain that Jordan says also functions as “a restaurant tech incubator masquerading as a burger joint” (Cali Group, CaliBurger’s parent company, is the parent company of Miso Robotics as well as two other restaurant industry start-ups.) The next version of the robot will use the new, cheaper arms and be mounted on an overhead rail to conserve floor space in tight kitchens.

 

[Spamature]

Fired and replaced by a robot, not unexpected.



The new burger chef makes $3 an hour and never goes home.
Off-the-shelf robot arms have plunged in price in recent years, from more than $100,000 in 2016, when Miso Robotics first launched, to less than $10,000 today, with cheaper models coming in the near future.

As a result, Miso can offer Flippys to fast-food restaurant owners for an estimated $2,000 per month on a subscription basis, breaking down to about $3 per hour. (The actual cost will depend on customers’ specific needs). A human doing the same job costs $4,000 to $10,000 or more a month, depending on a restaurant’s hours and the local minimum wage. And robots never call in sick.



If the cost of hardware hadn’t gone down so quickly, Miso’s business model would never have worked, said Buck Jordan, the company’s chief executive. “We took a bet,” he said. “A risky bet. But it’s paying off.”

So far, early versions of Flippy have put in time on the line at Dodger Stadium and at locations of CaliBurger, a small quick-serve chain that Jordan says also functions as “a restaurant tech incubator masquerading as a burger joint” (Cali Group, CaliBurger’s parent company, is the parent company of Miso Robotics as well as two other restaurant industry start-ups.) The next version of the robot will use the new, cheaper arms and be mounted on an overhead rail to conserve floor space in tight kitchens.

Then it would get you that for $4/hr burger jobs too.

In fact $3.01/hr burger jobs are in jeopardy, eh ?

 

[middleview]

Fired and replaced by a robot, not unexpected.



The new burger chef makes $3 an hour and never goes home.
Off-the-shelf robot arms have plunged in price in recent years, from more than $100,000 in 2016, when Miso Robotics first launched, to less than $10,000 today, with cheaper models coming in the near future.

As a result, Miso can offer Flippys to fast-food restaurant owners for an estimated $2,000 per month on a subscription basis, breaking down to about $3 per hour. (The actual cost will depend on customers’ specific needs). A human doing the same job costs $4,000 to $10,000 or more a month, depending on a restaurant’s hours and the local minimum wage. And robots never call in sick.



If the cost of hardware hadn’t gone down so quickly, Miso’s business model would never have worked, said Buck Jordan, the company’s chief executive. “We took a bet,” he said. “A risky bet. But it’s paying off.”

So far, early versions of Flippy have put in time on the line at Dodger Stadium and at locations of CaliBurger, a small quick-serve chain that Jordan says also functions as “a restaurant tech incubator masquerading as a burger joint” (Cali Group, CaliBurger’s parent company, is the parent company of Miso Robotics as well as two other restaurant industry start-ups.) The next version of the robot will use the new, cheaper arms and be mounted on an overhead rail to conserve floor space in tight kitchens.

McDonalds has cut their staff and kept their prices low while we cannot afford the Kiosks to keep our prices down as our minimum wage climbs to $15. A franchise here in Denver is looking at $16 bucks per hour. WTF are the politicians thinking?

Now a Denver politician wants to give family leave of 20 weeks! I have 25 employees at the moment. Most are part time. Imagine if 2 were to take leave...how in hell would we be able to save their jobs?

 

[Winston]

McDonalds has cut their staff and kept their prices low while we cannot afford the Kiosks to keep our prices down as our minimum wage climbs to $15. A franchise here in Denver is looking at $16 bucks per hour. WTF are the politicians thinking?

Now a Denver politician wants to give family leave of 20 weeks! I have 25 employees at the moment. Most are part time. Imagine if 2 were to take leave...how in hell would we be able to save their jobs?

You were told that people would be fired if the min went to 15, perhaps you should listen

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Fired and replaced by a robot, not unexpected.



The new burger chef makes $3 an hour and never goes home.
Off-the-shelf robot arms have plunged in price in recent years, from more than $100,000 in 2016, when Miso Robotics first launched, to less than $10,000 today, with cheaper models coming in the near future.

As a result, Miso can offer Flippys to fast-food restaurant owners for an estimated $2,000 per month on a subscription basis, breaking down to about $3 per hour. (The actual cost will depend on customers’ specific needs). A human doing the same job costs $4,000 to $10,000 or more a month, depending on a restaurant’s hours and the local minimum wage. And robots never call in sick.



If the cost of hardware hadn’t gone down so quickly, Miso’s business model would never have worked, said Buck Jordan, the company’s chief executive. “We took a bet,” he said. “A risky bet. But it’s paying off.”

So far, early versions of Flippy have put in time on the line at Dodger Stadium and at locations of CaliBurger, a small quick-serve chain that Jordan says also functions as “a restaurant tech incubator masquerading as a burger joint” (Cali Group, CaliBurger’s parent company, is the parent company of Miso Robotics as well as two other restaurant industry start-ups.) The next version of the robot will use the new, cheaper arms and be mounted on an overhead rail to conserve floor space in tight kitchens.

Inventors, Not Investors, Are the Only True Capital


They can't get enough people to learn computer repair, replacing today's service workers as if these machines will never break down. Greedy bosses get sold the machines by the crooked High-Tech corporate quick-buck artists, but not the maintenance and repair. After all, that too is a despised "service" job.

It's what happens whenever an advanced people (geeks) get overwhelmed by backward barbarian bullies (Scrooges). Soon High IQs will drift off into entertainment tech only, or will just entertain themselves, or get even through hacking. The plutocracy is an insult to intelligence; there will be a reaction to being treated like Cash Cows for Corporate Cowboys.

 

[middleview]

You were told that people would be fired if the min went to 15, perhaps you should listen

I'm the guy with employees. I've tried to talk to the city council where my restaurant is. They haven't a clue.

 

[Mick]

McDonalds has cut their staff and kept their prices low while we cannot afford the Kiosks to keep our prices down as our minimum wage climbs to $15. A franchise here in Denver is looking at $16 bucks per hour. WTF are the politicians thinking?

Now a Denver politician wants to give family leave of 20 weeks! I have 25 employees at the moment. Most are part time. Imagine if 2 were to take leave...how in hell would we be able to save their jobs?

And imagine if 10 took the full 20 weeks and all overlapped each other because of such large windows. You'd be forced to be in there flipping burgers yourself to keep your business afloat.

Lulz

 

[Winston]

I'm the guy with employees. I've tried to talk to the city council where my restaurant is. They haven't a clue.

No one has a clue but you obviously

 

[voyager]

I guess it hasn't seen the bill for the oil change and tune up yet.

 

[Bernard_Fokke]

And imagine if 10 took the full 20 weeks and all overlapped each other because of such large windows. You'd be forced to be in there flipping burgers yourself to keep your business afloat.

Lulz

If it's under FMLA in California you can't replace them, you can go to the expense of hiring temps but FMLA guarantees the job back. The phone company had some major issues with people playing the system with FMLA the abusers ruined it for the people that honestly needed it.

 

[Bernard_Fokke]

I'm the guy with employees. I've tried to talk to the city council where my restaurant is. They haven't a clue.

You sound like a good solid Republican businessman whose dealing with Democrat give it all away liberal politicians.

 

[Bo Didleysquat]

Fired and replaced by a robot, not unexpected.



The new burger chef makes $3 an hour and never goes home.
Off-the-shelf robot arms have plunged in price in recent years, from more than $100,000 in 2016, when Miso Robotics first launched, to less than $10,000 today, with cheaper models coming in the near future.

As a result, Miso can offer Flippys to fast-food restaurant owners for an estimated $2,000 per month on a subscription basis, breaking down to about $3 per hour. (The actual cost will depend on customers’ specific needs). A human doing the same job costs $4,000 to $10,000 or more a month, depending on a restaurant’s hours and the local minimum wage. And robots never call in sick.



If the cost of hardware hadn’t gone down so quickly, Miso’s business model would never have worked, said Buck Jordan, the company’s chief executive. “We took a bet,” he said. “A risky bet. But it’s paying off.”

So far, early versions of Flippy have put in time on the line at Dodger Stadium and at locations of CaliBurger, a small quick-serve chain that Jordan says also functions as “a restaurant tech incubator masquerading as a burger joint” (Cali Group, CaliBurger’s parent company, is the parent company of Miso Robotics as well as two other restaurant industry start-ups.) The next version of the robot will use the new, cheaper arms and be mounted on an overhead rail to conserve floor space in tight kitchens.

Easy, I won't eat at or support any of them.

 

[Bo Didleysquat]

You sound like a good solid Republican businessman whose dealing with Democrat give it all away liberal politicians.

Neo-liberal economic policy is utterly bipartisan going back at least as far as Clinton, are you this unaware?

 

[middleview]

You sound like a good solid Republican businessman whose dealing with Democrat give it all away liberal politicians.

The city council elections typically do not reveal political party affiliations although the $15 min wage is obviously a democratic party plank. I have found that republican leadership here in my Colorado hometown is playing to a different demographic and I tend to lose there as well. A large tract was just permitted for upscale homes, about 1500 of them and as part of the deal a large area was set aside for affordable homes...actually targeting the homeless. Neither one of these deals will work to better our lives in the middle of the two developments, but the developer will rake in the cash.

I've already seen them give a way an open space park to a developer in return for a large tract that is basically a giant ravine. Completely useless for recreation.

Just doesn't seem like those of us in the middle have much hope.

 

[Bo Didleysquat]

The city council elections typically do not reveal political party affiliations although the $15 min wage is obviously a democratic party plank. I have found that republican leadership here in my Colorado hometown is playing to a different demographic and I tend to lose there as well. A large tract was just permitted for upscale homes, about 1500 of them and as part of the deal a large area was set aside for affordable homes...actually targeting the homeless. Neither one of these deals will work to better our lives in the middle of the two developments, but the developer will rake in the cash.

I've already seen them give a way an open space park to a developer in return for a large tract that is basically a giant ravine. Completely useless for recreation.

Just doesn't seem like those of us in the middle have much hope.

Continued societal wealth redistribution to an unaccountable aristocracy.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

And imagine if 10 took the full 20 weeks and all overlapped each other because of such large windows. You'd be forced to be in there flipping burgers yourself to keep your business afloat.

Lulz

Diploma Dumpty Had a Great Fall

All of these smug college-educated snobs who don't feel threatened by automation are kidding themselves. Their knowledge is shallow; their understanding is even more superficial. They can easily be replaced by computer software. If they think their GreedHead bosses will make an exception for them because they bought into the system of indentured-servitude education, they are in for a rude awakening.

 

[EatTheRich]

McDonalds has cut their staff and kept their prices low while we cannot afford the Kiosks to keep our prices down as our minimum wage climbs to $15. A franchise here in Denver is looking at $16 bucks per hour. WTF are the politicians thinking?

Now a Denver politician wants to give family leave of 20 weeks! I have 25 employees at the moment. Most are part time. Imagine if 2 were to take leave...how in hell would we be able to save their jobs?

Join a cooperative to pool your resources with other business owners?

 

[middleview]

Join a cooperative to pool your resources with other business owners?

It ain't that easy.
1. We are in competition with one another. Cooperation is a pipe dream.
2. The insurance and liability situation is extremely complicated. Having the employee of another company in our kitchen is unacceptable on a worker's comp or business liability standpoint.

 

[middleview]

Diploma Dumpty Had a Great Fall

All of these smug college-educated snobs who don't feel threatened by automation are kidding themselves. Their knowledge is shallow; their understanding is even more superficial. They can easily be replaced by computer software. If they think their GreedHead bosses will make an exception for them because they bought into the system of indentured-servitude education, they are in for a rude awakening.

Trust me on this...the narrow view of the world is not limited to college grads. We have a range of employees, some in college, some out, some with no degree and one ex-marine vet who is currently training to be an EMT. The vet has the best attitude and work ethic. If we could pay more but hire fewer people we could probably get by with 15 of his like and run a pretty efficient place.

The rest all seem to think that we are rolling in dough and just don't like them enough to pay more.

 

[EatTheRich]

It ain't that easy.
1. We are in competition with one another. Cooperation is a pipe dream.
2. The insurance and liability situation is extremely complicated. Having the employee of another company in our kitchen is unacceptable on a worker's comp or business liability standpoint.

The government managed to facilitate the setting up of cooperatives in many countries from the Soviet Union to China to Romania to Bulgaria to Yugoslavia to Cuba. Perhaps your viability as a small business owner is simply incompatible with capitalism.