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Spamature

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Oh, I'm not doubting the numbers. I'm just saying that Obama had not a darn thing to do with it. In fact, the 8 year malaise that we experienced under Obama didn't have to happen at all were he not completely incompetent.
And Trump has something to do with his numbers I suppose ?

That chart looks like malaise to you ? Because Trump has yet to have a better job creation year than Obama's last year. Especially when you take the cooking of the books on job numbers they just found.
 

Colorforms

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And Trump has something to do with his numbers I suppose ?

That chart looks like malaise to you ? Because Trump has yet to have a better job creation year than Obama's last year. Especially when you take the cooking of the books on job numbers they just found.
We had very little growth during the Obama years. That is a Malaise. We're out of it now, and we are at virtually full employment, thanks to Trump. :)
 

Spamature

President
We had very little growth during the Obama years. That is a Malaise. We're out of it now, and we are at virtually full employment, thanks to Trump. :)
Then the malaise is even worse under Trump if you want to call it that

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/08/20/trump-v-obama-economy-charts/

Because most of Obama's years are better than Trump's.

PS
The 2016 low number was because of this in China.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/29/upshot/mini-recession-2016-little-known-big-impact.html
 
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Colorforms

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Then the malaise is even worse under Trump if you want to call it that

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/08/20/trump-v-obama-economy-charts/

Because most of Obama's years are better than Trump's.

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The 2016 low number was because of this

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/29/upshot/mini-recession-2016-little-known-big-impact.html
I see they still haven't taught you to read line charts.

Just a hint, 2 consecutive quarters of 3% growth beats a quarter of 5% growth coming out of a down quarter. :)

https://www.statista.com/statistics/188185/percent-chance-from-preceding-period-in-real-gdp-in-the-us/
 

Spamature

President
And yet the economists call Obama's reign a Malaise. Why is that?
Which ones ? You do understand he what had happened before he took office. That little thing call the great recession. Trump inherited what Obama had fixed and overnight you Trumpies start bragging about how great everything was and crediting Trump, even while Obama was still POTUS. Now we see that Trump hasn't created more jobs and doesn't have a better GDP. Yet Obama is malaise and Trump is a miracle.

Why are you convincing yourselves of things the numbers don't support ?
 

Colorforms

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Which ones ? You do understand he what had happened before he took office. That little thing call the great recession. Trump inherited what Obama had fixed and overnight you Trumpies start bragging about how great everything was and crediting Trump, even while Obama was still POTUS. Now we see that Trump hasn't created more jobs and doesn't have a better GDP. Yet Obama is malaise and Trump is a miracle.

Why are you convincing yourselves of things the numbers don't support ?
I do, and then Obama continued pounding on the economy with draconian regulations and Obamacare, and kept the market off balance. Add to that he kept artificially propping things up with QE2, which is the only reason that the market got as far as it did, and it was still soft when Trump took over.

Obama was a horrible president.
 

JuliefromOhio

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he sees the party as pursuing a “pro-white” agenda and using black people like him as “political pawns.”

A "pro-white" agenda? Why, that's MAWA.
 

Dawg

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Spamature

President
I do, and then Obama continued pounding on the economy with draconian regulations and Obamacare, and kept the market off balance. Add to that he kept artificially propping things up with QE2, which is the only reason that the market got as far as it did, and it was still soft when Trump took over.

Obama was a horrible president.
QE2 ended in 2010. If Obama policies were so horrible then why did they produce more growth in jobs and GDP than Trump's. Who is now demanding the Fed start doing it again for no good reason except the thinks it will boost his dwindling economic numbers. His trade war is set to cost the nation almost a million jobs by the end of this year if he keep pursuing it. The markets are like a roller-coaster with his threats, lies,m insane tweets and sheer incompetence.
 

Spamature

President
Took Trump 2 years to do what took Barry 7 years...…………..and Barry's 8th year a total flop...………..you proved this with you chart:)
Yeah in two years he brought the country back down to creating 96k jobs a month like he did last month. That is not something to brag about. And apparently you can't understand charts .
 

Dawg

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Yeah in two years he brought the country back down to creating 96k jobs a month like he did last month. That is not something to brag about. And apparently you can't understand charts .
Boy, I say BOY.............majority that want to work have jobs, when unemployment is this low of course monthly job reports will be lower........damn....common sense now your best quailty!

Read a report of 7million job opening and only 6million applying.............hell, maybe you should get a job, it's for damn sure you don't have a JOB........and living off Cali taxpayers.
 

Spamature

President
Boy, I say BOY.............majority that want to work have jobs, when unemployment is this low of course monthly job reports will be lower........damn....common sense now your best quailty!

Read a report of 7million job opening and only 6million applying.............hell, maybe you should get a job, it's for damn sure you don't have a JOB........and living off Cali taxpayers.
Here educate yourself.

The U.S. economy needs to add 145,000 jobs per month just to hold the unemployment rate steady and absorb the flow of new workers into the labor force, according to estimates in the latest Wall Street Journal survey of economists.


That makes 145,000 jobs per month the break-even pace of job growth. If the economy is consistently adding more than 145,000 jobs per month, then the unemployment rate should continue to drift down. If it falls below that 145,000 pace, however, the rate of unemployment will start to climb
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https://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2016/04/07/the-new-magic-number-for-monthly-job-growth-145000/

Have the mods requested that you keep a civil tongue , Dawg ?
If not they should.
I have been asked to take the high road and leave the personal insults behind rather than trade insults and drive poster like to into saying something that gets them banned. So I will take your bs insult. After all, we both know it's just the oft used crutch of those who don't have the ability to debate.
 
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JackDallas

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