Cotton2226
Mayor
DITTO.... just like watching the funniest movie you ever seen! Go Hillary!
Hillary Clinton is scum
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Cicero
Mayor
Although her instincts would have been to always go Left her time spent with Bill during his years as president and her time as a U.S. senator, wherein she brokered compromise deals, would probably have made her keep steering more of a real Centrist course, the one that Obama only pretends to steer while ALWAYS really going hard Left [or at least socialist].
Meh, but we will never know and so it doesn't matter. This sort of thing is just for the purposes of playing with limited little leftwing minds incapable of thinking outside of their ideological box.
Meh, but we will never know and so it doesn't matter. This sort of thing is just for the purposes of playing with limited little leftwing minds incapable of thinking outside of their ideological box.
imreallyperplexed
Council Member
Hmmm .... I wonder if there is such a thing as "playing with limited little rightwing minds incapable of thinking outside their ideological box?" Naah!
Like Newt and Breitbart, you never fail to entertain Cicero. :noidea:
Cicero
Mayor
I think he wants me to chase her down the street swinging a shovel at her head. Some people are never satisfied. I got the same reaction from these types when I used to give in to their pathetic sniveling cries and repost some of the bad things I used to say about G.W. Bush. They were never satisfied since I always stopped short of declaring that he should have been boiled alive and his fat rendered for candle wicks. They insisted that I was actually supporting Bush.
Sometimes I wonder if the only thing holding their hat on their head is the strong vacuum created by the absence of a brain between their ears.
Sometimes I wonder if the only thing holding their hat on their head is the strong vacuum created by the absence of a brain between their ears.
Lobato1
Mayor
Oh Really
Profile of Secretary of State & previous Senator Hillary Clinton:
As a young woman, Hillary Rodham was active in young Republican groups and campaigned for Republican presidential nominee Barry Goldwater in 1964. She was inspired to work in some form of public service after hearing a speech in Chicago by the Reverend Martin Luther King and became a Democrat in 1968.
Rodham attended Wellesley College; she was active in student politics and was elected Senior Class president before she graduated in 1969. She then attended Yale Law School. Graduating with honors in 1973, she also attended one post-graduate year of study on children and medicine at Yale Child Study Center.
Hillary worked at various jobs during her summers as a college student. In 1971, she first came to Washington, D.C to work on U.S. Senator Walter Mondale's subcommittee on migrant workers. In the summer of 1972, she worked in the western states for the campaign of Democratic presidential nominee George McGovern.
In the spring of 1974, Rodham became a member of the presidential impeachment inquiry staff, advising the Judiciary Committee of the House of Representatives during the Watergate Scandal. After President Richard M. Nixon resigned in August, she became a faculty member of the University of Arkansas Law School in Fayetteville.
In 1976, she worked on Jimmy Carter's successful campaign for president.
Hillary joined the Rose Law Firm n Little Rock and in 1977 was appointed to part-time chairman of the Legal Services Corporation by President Carter.
As First Lady of Arkansas for a dozen years (1979-1981, 1983-1992), she chaired the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee, co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families and served on the boards of the Arkansas Children's Hospital, Legal Services and the Children's Defense Fund. She also served on the boards of TCBY and Wal-Mart. In 1988 and 1991,
The National Law Journal named her one of the 100 most powerful lawyers in America. During the 1992 presidential campaign, she emerged as a dynamic and valued partner of her husband, and as president he named her to head the Task Force on National Health Reform (1993). The controversial commission produced a complicated plan which never came to the floor of either house. It was abandoned in September 1994.
With her husband limited to two terms in the White House, Mrs. Clinton decided she would seek the U.S. Senate seat from New York held by Daniel Patrick Moynihan. He was retiring after four terms. Despite early problems, and charges of carpet bagging, Clinton beat popular Republican Rick Lazio by a surprisingly wide margin: 55 to 43 percent. Clinton became the first wife of a president to seek and win national office and the first woman to be elected to the U.S. Senate from New York. She easily won re-election in November 2006.
In early 2007, Hillary Clinton announced her plans to strive for another first—to be the first female president. During the 2008 Democratic Primaries, Senator Clinton conceded her nomination when it became apparent that nominee Barack Obama held a majority of the delegate vote.
Shortly after Obama won the U.S. presidential election, he nominated Clinton to become Secretary of State in his 2009 cabinet. She accepted the nomination, and was officially approved by the senate on January 21st, 2009.
Best Regards
Lobato1
Profile of Secretary of State & previous Senator Hillary Clinton:
As a young woman, Hillary Rodham was active in young Republican groups and campaigned for Republican presidential nominee Barry Goldwater in 1964. She was inspired to work in some form of public service after hearing a speech in Chicago by the Reverend Martin Luther King and became a Democrat in 1968.
Rodham attended Wellesley College; she was active in student politics and was elected Senior Class president before she graduated in 1969. She then attended Yale Law School. Graduating with honors in 1973, she also attended one post-graduate year of study on children and medicine at Yale Child Study Center.
Hillary worked at various jobs during her summers as a college student. In 1971, she first came to Washington, D.C to work on U.S. Senator Walter Mondale's subcommittee on migrant workers. In the summer of 1972, she worked in the western states for the campaign of Democratic presidential nominee George McGovern.
In the spring of 1974, Rodham became a member of the presidential impeachment inquiry staff, advising the Judiciary Committee of the House of Representatives during the Watergate Scandal. After President Richard M. Nixon resigned in August, she became a faculty member of the University of Arkansas Law School in Fayetteville.
In 1976, she worked on Jimmy Carter's successful campaign for president.
Hillary joined the Rose Law Firm n Little Rock and in 1977 was appointed to part-time chairman of the Legal Services Corporation by President Carter.
As First Lady of Arkansas for a dozen years (1979-1981, 1983-1992), she chaired the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee, co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families and served on the boards of the Arkansas Children's Hospital, Legal Services and the Children's Defense Fund. She also served on the boards of TCBY and Wal-Mart. In 1988 and 1991,
The National Law Journal named her one of the 100 most powerful lawyers in America. During the 1992 presidential campaign, she emerged as a dynamic and valued partner of her husband, and as president he named her to head the Task Force on National Health Reform (1993). The controversial commission produced a complicated plan which never came to the floor of either house. It was abandoned in September 1994.
With her husband limited to two terms in the White House, Mrs. Clinton decided she would seek the U.S. Senate seat from New York held by Daniel Patrick Moynihan. He was retiring after four terms. Despite early problems, and charges of carpet bagging, Clinton beat popular Republican Rick Lazio by a surprisingly wide margin: 55 to 43 percent. Clinton became the first wife of a president to seek and win national office and the first woman to be elected to the U.S. Senate from New York. She easily won re-election in November 2006.
In early 2007, Hillary Clinton announced her plans to strive for another first—to be the first female president. During the 2008 Democratic Primaries, Senator Clinton conceded her nomination when it became apparent that nominee Barack Obama held a majority of the delegate vote.
Shortly after Obama won the U.S. presidential election, he nominated Clinton to become Secretary of State in his 2009 cabinet. She accepted the nomination, and was officially approved by the senate on January 21st, 2009.
Best Regards
Lobato1
Jen, the "FACT" is that you need to be reminded from time to time. Facts do matter and your posts more frequently than not contain baseless assertions and talking points from right wing radio or TV. My observation of you is that you never check the information you get from those sources. You accept as fact anything anti-Obama that you read or hear....
OldGaffer
Governor
Where do these talking points come from? Even the Obama supporters thought Hillary was a good candidate and would have supported her as the nominee, just like almost all of the HRC supporters accepted Obama(me included). It was a tough primary contest between two outstanding Democrats, and if HRC was President she would be gtting the exact same hate fest that Obama is getting. Haters gotta hate and the Winger hate machine is cranked up 24/7 hating on all things Democratic.
MaryAnne
Governor
You wife is a smart woman,IRP. You can tell her I said so.
I like Huntsman as I think he is a good person who stands for the Country, not the party. Ron Paul,too old fashioned for my taste.
As for Obama once he chose Hillary for SOS,I realized just how smart he is. Not a grudge carrying man at all. I will vote with enthusiasm this time.
I also think he is taking advice from Hillary's husband! Both on the economy and taking care of the Foreign policy.And Biden is working on jobs.
Three for one, in my book! Or 4!
D
Doc
Guest
LOL, well, except for her actual RECORD in Congress.
(HINT: Hillary did a wee bit more than vote "present" for a few years......)
Plus, the fact that she worked with Congress, unofficially, while she was First Lady (Again, Clinton probably did more LEGISLATING while First Lady, than the Dalai-Bama did as a sitting Senator...)
Plus, what many Republican Congressmembers have said.
Plus, her voting record tends to show a bit of "pragmatic Compromise" from her, on some issues. ("Compromise" and "Pragmatism" two things we have seldom seen from the current White House resident....)
D
Doc
Guest
Seriously, dude....to MANY on the LEFT, their Politics are their Religion.
And, contrary to their own views of themselves, Libbies tend to be every bit as vehement and intolerant, when it comes to THEIR "Political Religion," as the most fervent of Right Wing Evangelical Christian.
(But, of course, it is ALWAYS "different" with them....ALWAYS....)
imreallyperplexed
Council Member
Do you remember Hillarycare in 1993 and 1994? Now, that was successful bipartisanship!
The fact is that if Hillary was President, Mitch McConnell's primary goal in life would still have been to make her a one-term President.
You live in a fantasy land. It is easy for you to see Hillary as "pragmatic" in your right-wing never-never land. Give us all a break! :rofl:
The fact is that if Hillary was President, Mitch McConnell's primary goal in life would still have been to make her a one-term President.
You live in a fantasy land. It is easy for you to see Hillary as "pragmatic" in your right-wing never-never land. Give us all a break! :rofl:
Cicero
Mayor
Yeah I know. Even when I used to post in support of their general ideology I never was a stone cold believer. I simply determined that there should be a balance of power in this nation and so I rooted for the underdogs, which were what leftwingers were in those days. But that was before they collectively went insane and began worshiping a political fad sans any meaningful national level experience to speak of and calling him just as qualified as people with many years of experience and real productivity under their belt.
Fanatics make my teeth ache and in 2008 the fanatics completely took over the Democratic Party. So it goes.
Fanatics make my teeth ache and in 2008 the fanatics completely took over the Democratic Party. So it goes.
The republicans have changed tactics since Watergate, but not by much. They swore revenge for what they saw as pure politics in the Watergate investigation. They went after Bert Lance during Carter's years then saw Iran/Contra as yet another democratic party operation to discredit Reagan.....Remember the Clinton Death list? They spent $60 million bucks in search of a crime to pin on Clinton and what did they find? Since they couldn't actually force Clinton out of office and there aren't the kind of bimbo eruptions pending for Obama, they went off on the socialist, anti-American, pro-terrorist, muslim rant.....They would have worked on the Starr investigation mode if the president was Hillary....maybe Clinton Death List II.....
Welcome to republican politics.
Welcome to republican politics.
Cicero
Mayor
Yes DOC, I used to point out the fact to these fanatics but finally gave it up as a lost cause. We are after all dealing with people capable of comparing the two records as they existed in 2008 and then declaring that the green as grass to national level politics, Obama, was at least as qualified as Hillary Clinton and probably more qualified since he'd also been a community activist. Shudder!
One might as well go argue with a brick wall. :frusty:
One might as well go argue with a brick wall. :frusty:
D
Doc
Guest
Do you remember Hillarycare in 1993 and 1994? Now, that was successful bipartisanship!
--What? You mean Clinton and the Democrats failed in their efforts to FORCE a Socialized Healthcare system down the throats of an American Electorate, that largely OPPOSSES it? By using bribes, and waivers in order to do so? Yes, you are correct on that: Hillary and Bill may have actually LISTENED to the American People. (Note, that this was also before the Democrat Party took a decidedly LEFT Turn, as they ran out almost all of their Moderates from the Party...)
The fact is that if Hillary was President, Mitch McConnell's primary goal in life would still have been to make her a one-term President.
--OF course, that would be Mitch McConnell's goal (although, I do not know if it would be his PRIMARY goal. And, neither do you....) Guess what? When a Republican is in the White House, your "holier-than-thou-Democrats" will have the EXACT SAME GOAL. (Although, again, I question if such would be their PRIMARY Goal....)
--The difference would be how Hillary Clinton HANDLED it. Her husband was given no breaks. George Bush was certainly given no breaks. Obie, apparently, can not govern, without being given carte blanche, with someone ELSE doing the heavy lifting. The man has NO leadership ability. NONE. ZILCH. NADDA.
You live in a fantasy land. It is easy for you to see Hillary as "pragmatic" in your right-wing never-never land. Give us all a break! :rofl.
I have to admit, based on FACT and REALITY (which, it seems, DimLibs have largely abandoned, in order to hold up the Tenets of their Liberal "Faith..."), it IS easier for me to see Hillary as "pragmatic." FAR easier for ME to see THAT, than for YOU to actually proclaim Obie is a "Moderate...."
--What? You mean Clinton and the Democrats failed in their efforts to FORCE a Socialized Healthcare system down the throats of an American Electorate, that largely OPPOSSES it? By using bribes, and waivers in order to do so? Yes, you are correct on that: Hillary and Bill may have actually LISTENED to the American People. (Note, that this was also before the Democrat Party took a decidedly LEFT Turn, as they ran out almost all of their Moderates from the Party...)
The fact is that if Hillary was President, Mitch McConnell's primary goal in life would still have been to make her a one-term President.
--OF course, that would be Mitch McConnell's goal (although, I do not know if it would be his PRIMARY goal. And, neither do you....) Guess what? When a Republican is in the White House, your "holier-than-thou-Democrats" will have the EXACT SAME GOAL. (Although, again, I question if such would be their PRIMARY Goal....)
--The difference would be how Hillary Clinton HANDLED it. Her husband was given no breaks. George Bush was certainly given no breaks. Obie, apparently, can not govern, without being given carte blanche, with someone ELSE doing the heavy lifting. The man has NO leadership ability. NONE. ZILCH. NADDA.
You live in a fantasy land. It is easy for you to see Hillary as "pragmatic" in your right-wing never-never land. Give us all a break! :rofl.
I have to admit, based on FACT and REALITY (which, it seems, DimLibs have largely abandoned, in order to hold up the Tenets of their Liberal "Faith..."), it IS easier for me to see Hillary as "pragmatic." FAR easier for ME to see THAT, than for YOU to actually proclaim Obie is a "Moderate...."
Look up the difference between fact and opinion.
1. The only advantage that Hillary had was in her 6 years in the Senate, while Obama was a legislator in Ill. Based on your idea of qualifications, Bush should have been a pretty good president. Groomed by a father who was the head of the CIA, VP and President.....but he sucked. Bush should have been an even better president after he'd had his first four years to practice. He wasn't. He was even more prone to catastrophic decisions after 2004.
2. She and Bill didn't seem all that close. You think Bill was "grooming" her, but have no evidence to prove that idea. She never attended a cabinet meeting. She never sat in on negotiations with congress. She was reviled by the republicans and investigated for her involvement with personnel issues (travelgate), as well as the Rose Law Firm records issue.
As an independent, why is it that you never seem to find fault with the republicans in congress for the barriers they have setup in the senate? As far as I can tell, you think it is all Obama's lack of leadership that results in the hundreds of secret holds that Jim Demint threw in the path of legislation or the filibusters that hit practically every bill passed by the house.
1. The only advantage that Hillary had was in her 6 years in the Senate, while Obama was a legislator in Ill. Based on your idea of qualifications, Bush should have been a pretty good president. Groomed by a father who was the head of the CIA, VP and President.....but he sucked. Bush should have been an even better president after he'd had his first four years to practice. He wasn't. He was even more prone to catastrophic decisions after 2004.
2. She and Bill didn't seem all that close. You think Bill was "grooming" her, but have no evidence to prove that idea. She never attended a cabinet meeting. She never sat in on negotiations with congress. She was reviled by the republicans and investigated for her involvement with personnel issues (travelgate), as well as the Rose Law Firm records issue.
As an independent, why is it that you never seem to find fault with the republicans in congress for the barriers they have setup in the senate? As far as I can tell, you think it is all Obama's lack of leadership that results in the hundreds of secret holds that Jim Demint threw in the path of legislation or the filibusters that hit practically every bill passed by the house.
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