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How we know that Trump’s intent in Ukrainegate was criminal

SW48

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What's the rush?

unsurprisingly, fulfilling their constitutional responsibility to oversee the executive branch benefits them politically.
Russian Collusion hoax, Kavanaugh hoax, and now this. Please understand if I'm a bit skeptical especially when Schiff is involved.

Dislike for the president isn't an impeachable offense.
 

SW48

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What's shady if nothing about Hunter Biden's actions were illegal?
The fact that he got a job on the board of directors of a Ukrainian energy company paying him 10's of thousands of dollars a month, at the same time his dad was negotiating foreign policy in Ukraine.
 

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One of the talking points of Trump and his GOP enablers is claiming that he was just seeking to combat corruption when he demanded that the Ukraine publicly announce investigations of the Bidens and the 2016 election crimes. Put aside how laughable it is to claim that Trump is really concerned with corruption anywhere in the world. Pretend that corruption bothers him and consider the following.

Trump wasn’t just “asking for investigations.” What he really did, both directly and through his co-conspirators like Giuliani and Sondland, was demand that the Ukraine president publicly announce those investigations. They even wrote out the “announcement script” and directed how it would be delivered - by the Ukraine president himself on CNN.

Announcing such investigations is the last thing one would do if actually interested in ferreting out corruption. Such investigations would be kept quiet so as not to tip off wrongdoers. But again, Trump and his toadies were not really interested in investigations - they demanded a carefully scripted public announcement of investigations.

There is only one possible reason for demanding that public announcement - to tar Joe Biden and give the Trump/GOP machine a concocted basis to argue that there was some doubt about the Kremlin’s role in the 2016 election crimes - that there was some basis to the Trump conspiracy theory to the effect that “The Kremlin didn’t do it; Ukraine did.”

In other words, it’s clear beyond reasonable doubt that Trump’s shakedown was in no way really related to pursuing legitimate aims of the United States. The sole reason for the shakedown was utilizing another nation - a rather desperate nation seeking to hold off Russia’s territorial advances - to announce an investigation to boost Trump’s 2020 election prospects. And knowing it’s criminal, Trump has compounded his culpability by directing his toadies to defy congressional subpoenas.

That is all obviously criminal on numerous levels. The only real question left is whether Trump’s congressional co-conspirators can throw up clouds of dust seeking to obscure the relevant questions and conceal what actually occurred from as many Americans as possible.

Here we go.
How do you respond respectfully to such loony toon threads?
 
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