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I still can't believe we are talking about this the wrong way!

SW48

Administrator
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This article talks about how a travel ban won't work:
http://news.yahoo.com/effectiveness-ebola-travel-ban-questioned-072730370--politics.html

100% right a complete isolation of the 3 African countries won't work. They need MEDICAL help with supplies and aid workers and military personnel.

NO ONE in the world is advocating for stopping Medical help to the infected areas.

When WE say TRAVEL BAN, we mean noone from West Africa gets into the USA without at least a 21 day quarantine period.

No one wants to stop the planes with medical supplies, aid workers, or military personnel.

For as much as the Republican are making this political, so are the Democrats who say a travel ban for non medical and non military reasons won't work.

1) Full travel ban for everyone and everything to west africa.
2) Travel ban for West African nationals only who would have to undergo 21 day quarantine to come here.
3) No travel ban.

When this subject is talked about it is absolutely maddening that Democrats only refer to option #1 when the rest of the world is talking about option #2.
 

Barbella

Senator
This article talks about how a travel ban won't work:
http://news.yahoo.com/effectiveness-ebola-travel-ban-questioned-072730370--politics.html

100% right a complete isolation of the 3 African countries won't work. They need MEDICAL help with supplies and aid workers and military personnel.

NO ONE in the world is advocating for stopping Medical help to the infected areas.

When WE say TRAVEL BAN, we mean noone from West Africa gets into the USA without at least a 21 day quarantine period.

No one wants to stop the planes with medical supplies, aid workers, or military personnel.

For as much as the Republican are making this political, so are the Democrats who say a travel ban for non medical and non military reasons won't work.

1) Full travel ban for everyone and everything to west africa.
2) Travel ban for West African nationals only who would have to undergo 21 day quarantine to come here.
3) No travel ban.

When this subject is talked about it is absolutely maddening that Democrats only refer to option #1 when the rest of the world is talking about option #2.
Exactly right, SW. No one, to the best of my knowledge, has ever said we should not fly into West Africa with medical supplies and aid workers. Democrats are lying when they imply that we're advocating simply abandoning Ebola-stricken countries... but that's what they do... lie, and exaggerate.

Temporarily closing the door into the US to people who are arriving from those countries, while they're being checked for exposure, is common sense and wouldn't be too hard to do.
 
This article talks about how a travel ban won't work:
http://news.yahoo.com/effectiveness-ebola-travel-ban-questioned-072730370--politics.html

100% right a complete isolation of the 3 African countries won't work. They need MEDICAL help with supplies and aid workers and military personnel.

NO ONE in the world is advocating for stopping Medical help to the infected areas.

When WE say TRAVEL BAN, we mean noone from West Africa gets into the USA without at least a 21 day quarantine period.

No one wants to stop the planes with medical supplies, aid workers, or military personnel.

For as much as the Republican are making this political, so are the Democrats who say a travel ban for non medical and non military reasons won't work.

1) Full travel ban for everyone and everything to west africa.
2) Travel ban for West African nationals only who would have to undergo 21 day quarantine to come here.
3) No travel ban.

When this subject is talked about it is absolutely maddening that Democrats only refer to option #1 when the rest of the world is talking about option #2.

They do not want it.

They say there is no Ebola there.

They are having to pay the Bill.

They are being experimented on as the WHO and CDC and Big P wishes to experiment on them

They are an occupied people surrounded by US/UK troops who are doing what? God knows - for God has forsaken them -
 

Addy

Rebuild With Biden!
Better left to the experts, they know the logistics of this decision better than the layperson.. imo.
Below is what a former WH health official under Bush stated.
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Among the travel ban skeptics is former President George W. Bush's top health official, who coordinated the government's response to bird flu in 2005 and 2006. At the time, it was feared that the H5N1 flu strain, capable of jumping from birds to humans, could become the catalyst for a global pandemic.

A travel ban "is intuitively attractive, and seems so simple," said Mike Leavitt, who led the Health and Human Services Department from 2005-2009. "We studied it intensely in preparation for H5N1. I became persuaded that there are lots of problems with it."
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Exactly right, SW. No one, to the best of my knowledge, has ever said we should not fly into West Africa with medical supplies and aid workers. Democrats are lying when they imply that we're advocating simply abandoning Ebola-stricken countries... but that's what they do... lie, and exaggerate.

Temporarily closing the door into the US to people who are arriving from those countries, while they're being checked for exposure, is common sense and wouldn't be too hard to do.
Ok...so we stop anyone with those three countries on their visas within the last three weeks....but what of someone who travels to London from Monrovia, comes into contact with a citizen of the US who then travels to the US, carrying Ebola? It gets even more complicated from there. The only way to do a quarantine is to either get all countries to participate or to stop all passenger traffic leaving those countries....and that is both by air as well as train or car.

You are basically talking about shutting down the economies of those countries. Just so's you know.
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
This article talks about how a travel ban won't work:
http://news.yahoo.com/effectiveness-ebola-travel-ban-questioned-072730370--politics.html

100% right a complete isolation of the 3 African countries won't work. They need MEDICAL help with supplies and aid workers and military personnel.

NO ONE in the world is advocating for stopping Medical help to the infected areas.

When WE say TRAVEL BAN, we mean noone from West Africa gets into the USA without at least a 21 day quarantine period.

No one wants to stop the planes with medical supplies, aid workers, or military personnel.

For as much as the Republican are making this political, so are the Democrats who say a travel ban for non medical and non military reasons won't work.

1) Full travel ban for everyone and everything to west africa.
2) Travel ban for West African nationals only who would have to undergo 21 day quarantine to come here.
3) No travel ban.

When this subject is talked about it is absolutely maddening that Democrats only refer to option #1 when the rest of the world is talking about option #2.
if you think a travel ban is needed, then one needs to be imposed on the state of Texas pronto.
 

Jen

Senator
This article talks about how a travel ban won't work:
http://news.yahoo.com/effectiveness-ebola-travel-ban-questioned-072730370--politics.html

100% right a complete isolation of the 3 African countries won't work. They need MEDICAL help with supplies and aid workers and military personnel.

NO ONE in the world is advocating for stopping Medical help to the infected areas.

When WE say TRAVEL BAN, we mean noone from West Africa gets into the USA without at least a 21 day quarantine period.

No one wants to stop the planes with medical supplies, aid workers, or military personnel.

For as much as the Republican are making this political, so are the Democrats who say a travel ban for non medical and non military reasons won't work.

1) Full travel ban for everyone and everything to west africa.
2) Travel ban for West African nationals only who would have to undergo 21 day quarantine to come here.
3) No travel ban.

When this subject is talked about it is absolutely maddening that Democrats only refer to option #1 when the rest of the world is talking about option #2.
The straw man about them not being able to get help if we put up a travel ban is simply a way to not have to put up that travel ban that is much needed.

It's a ruse.
Simple as that.
And some dummies keep using it as a "reason"..........it's not.
 
The straw man about them not being able to get help if we put up a travel ban is simply a way to not have to put up that travel ban that is much needed.

It's a ruse.
Simple as that.
And some dummies keep using it as a "reason"..........it's not.
No the ruse is that here you all are begging to be put in Jail in chains - they are laughing at you - begging at the prison gate 'let me in' -
 

Jen

Senator
No the ruse is that here you all are begging to be put in Jail in chains - they are laughing at you - begging at the prison gate 'let me in' -
Not at all.
How is quarantining someone coming from ebola countries for a few days turned into MY begging to be put in jail?
What's your logic there?
 
Not at all.
How is quarantining someone coming from ebola countries for a few days turned into MY begging to be put in jail?
What's your logic there?
The epicenter of this so called out break was Guinea - they killed the WHO and UN reps and chased out the NGOs - no Ebola - that is the epicenter and no Ebola?

The others tried to do the same and in went the troops - what was coming out of Africa, from the people before they were surrounded and occupied by a foreign invasion ( US/UK) they were saying - There is no Ebola - Their News papers were closed down, I posted a letter from them to their Prez somewhere and all independents who refused to report as were told -

For heaves sake stop being so hysterical and look at the whole picture and what they are really up to in this fuc'king farce -
 

Addy

Rebuild With Biden!
Republican Who Wants West Africa Flight Ban Unaware There Are No Direct Flights To U.S.
A member of Congress who wants to ban travel from countries afflicted by the Ebola outbreak appeared to be unaware of a key fact -- that there are no direct flights between the U.S. and Liberia, Guinea or Sierra Leone.

In a Friday morning appearance on MSNBC, Rep. Dennis Ross (R-Fla.) argued that instituting a flight ban, regardless of what experts say, makes sense and said he plans to introduce a bill doing so once Congress reconvenes in November.

"I believe we can nip this in the bud, if you will, at least by banning those flights temporarily until such time as the [Centers for Disease Control and Prevention] believes the epidemic is under control and also make sure we don't issue visas to travelers from over there. We have a good border patrol, believe it or not, and they can catch these people with fake passports and fake visas as they come across the border. It just seems to me we ought to have the debate on this and flush this out and that's why I filed the bill to allow for the banning of these flights," he said.


Since there are no direct flights between the hardest-hit nations and the United States, the Florida Republican was pressed to specifically identify which flights he wanted to impose restrictions on.

"I believe there are some flights," Ross responded.

"There are no flights. There are no direct flights that come to the United States from West Africa. That is incorrect," rebutted New York Times reporter Jeremy W. Peters.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/_uac/2014adpage.html
 

Boltlady

Mayor
This article talks about how a travel ban won't work:
http://news.yahoo.com/effectiveness-ebola-travel-ban-questioned-072730370--politics.html

100% right a complete isolation of the 3 African countries won't work. They need MEDICAL help with supplies and aid workers and military personnel.

NO ONE in the world is advocating for stopping Medical help to the infected areas.

When WE say TRAVEL BAN, we mean noone from West Africa gets into the USA without at least a 21 day quarantine period.

No one wants to stop the planes with medical supplies, aid workers, or military personnel.

For as much as the Republican are making this political, so are the Democrats who say a travel ban for non medical and non military reasons won't work.

1) Full travel ban for everyone and everything to west africa.
2) Travel ban for West African nationals only who would have to undergo 21 day quarantine to come here.
3) No travel ban.

When this subject is talked about it is absolutely maddening that Democrats only refer to option #1 when the rest of the world is talking about option #2.
So while the powers that be in our country are wringing their hands over what to do, what to do, Cuba is taking decisive action to help.

BBC News - Cuba to send doctors to Ebola areas
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
I'm thinking of putting of a gate at end of my drive
no one in
unless hounds can smell they aren't sick
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Θ administration already has the PLAN

(don't respect Ventura after he sued Kyle's wife, but IS THIS THE REAL PLAN?


Ebola is removing scams/corruption from front pages.............
 

Zoar

Governor
This article talks about how a travel ban won't work:
http://news.yahoo.com/effectiveness-ebola-travel-ban-questioned-072730370--politics.html

100% right a complete isolation of the 3 African countries won't work. They need MEDICAL help with supplies and aid workers and military personnel.

NO ONE in the world is advocating for stopping Medical help to the infected areas.

When WE say TRAVEL BAN, we mean noone from West Africa gets into the USA without at least a 21 day quarantine period.

No one wants to stop the planes with medical supplies, aid workers, or military personnel.

For as much as the Republican are making this political, so are the Democrats who say a travel ban for non medical and non military reasons won't work.

1) Full travel ban for everyone and everything to west africa.
2) Travel ban for West African nationals only who would have to undergo 21 day quarantine to come here.
3) No travel ban.

When this subject is talked about it is absolutely maddening that Democrats only refer to option #1 when the rest of the world is talking about option #2.
I don' t know any Dems saying no aid TO Africa.
 

Spamature

President
This article talks about how a travel ban won't work:
http://news.yahoo.com/effectiveness-ebola-travel-ban-questioned-072730370--politics.html

100% right a complete isolation of the 3 African countries won't work. They need MEDICAL help with supplies and aid workers and military personnel.

NO ONE in the world is advocating for stopping Medical help to the infected areas.

When WE say TRAVEL BAN, we mean noone from West Africa gets into the USA without at least a 21 day quarantine period.

No one wants to stop the planes with medical supplies, aid workers, or military personnel.

For as much as the Republican are making this political, so are the Democrats who say a travel ban for non medical and non military reasons won't work.

1) Full travel ban for everyone and everything to west africa.
2) Travel ban for West African nationals only who would have to undergo 21 day quarantine to come here.
3) No travel ban.

When this subject is talked about it is absolutely maddening that Democrats only refer to option #1 when the rest of the world is talking about option #2.
So you mean that we set up quarantine areas in the US for people who have traveled to any of those countries ? Because if the person has visited to some other country in between their travels to any of those nations. You can't expect that every other country they may have visited will set up and fund a quarantine system for travel to the US.
 

Boltlady

Mayor
Θ administration already has the PLAN

(don't respect Ventura after he sued Kyle's wife, but IS THIS THE REAL PLAN?


Ebola is removing scams/corruption from front pages.............
is.

This film is already a couple of years old. I've been reading about that stuff for a few years before that. One only needs to look around to see it being played out.

You are one of the ones who has been quick to put down the idea of conspiracy theories so I'm surprised to see that you would post this. The fact is that we are dealing with a lot of conspiracies and they're not theories. They are things that are being put into place as we speak.
 

SW48

Administrator
Staff member
Supporting Member
Once again the liberal posters here have gone off subject.

What does a travel ban keeping west african nationals out of the USA and or quarantined when they come here for 21 days have to do with Direct flights or even necessarily flights at all?

And no one said anything about keeping US citizens out of the USA as part of the travel ban.

But go ahead and keep making stuff up.

We realize the president said no travel ban so now all of his minions here at PJ are going to repeat all the talking points they hear on tv.

My top post made no mention of direct flights or flights at all. The ban would be against West African nationals and would be temporary.
 

Spamature

President
Once again the liberal posters here have gone off subject.

What does a travel ban keeping west african nationals out of the USA and or quarantined when they come here for 21 days have to do with Direct flights or even necessarily flights at all?

And no one said anything about keeping US citizens out of the USA as part of the travel ban.

But go ahead and keep making stuff up.

We realize the president said no travel ban so now all of his minions here at PJ are going to repeat all the talking points they hear on tv.

My top post made no mention of direct flights or flights at all. The ban would be against West African nationals and would be temporary.
Because only West African nationals and be infected with the virus ? No. Your ban would have to be for all people who have traveled to those nations at any point less than 21 days prior to coming here West African national or not.
 
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