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llovejim

Current Champion
No, it's not news that in several instances, liberals have gotten together to tell us how identity theft, tax evasion, sending money out of the US and draining our resources is actually good for the country. And apparently, there are plenty of suckers willing to believe it.
why not name one? the identity theft is a lie, tax evasion is a lie, since 47% of Americans do not pay taxes, either, who make about the same amount as illegals or more, and how is an illegal sending money he made by his own labor to mexico somehow hurting you? geezus...hard to believe how sensitive you are to somebody else's money being sent to mexico. why does that bother you?
 

llovejim

Current Champion
Getting a fake Social Security card is identity theft and fraud. Period.
no, it is not. period. they are not defrauding any living American. why do you post such ignorant "facts?" here, try reading this-

Supreme Court Rejects Use of Identity-Theft Law Against ...

https://www.nytimes.com › 2009/05/05

May 4, 2009 - Justices Limit Use of Identity Theft Law in Immigration Cases ... use fake identification numbers to commit some other crimes must know they belong to ... “An immigrant who uses a false Social Security number to get a job doesn't .
 
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why not name one? the identity theft is a lie, tax evasion is a lie, since 47% of Americans do not pay taxes, either, who make about the same amount as illegals or more, and how is an illegal sending money he made by his own labor to mexico somehow hurting you? geezus...hard to believe how sensitive you are to somebody else's money being sent to mexico. why does that bother you?
You have yet to tell me how getting a fraudulent Social Security card isn't fraud and identity theft. Your additional rage brings nothing to the table.
 

llovejim

Current Champion
You have yet to tell me how getting a fraudulent Social Security card isn't fraud and identity theft. Your additional rage brings nothing to the table.
rage? more like amazed you know so little about something that apparently really bothers you!! here read this, which i have already posted...

Supreme Court Rejects Use of Identity-Theft Law Against ...

https://www.nytimes.com › 2009/05/05

May 4, 2009 - Justices Limit Use of Identity Theft Law in Immigration Cases ... use fake identification numbers to commit some other crimes must know they belong to ... “An immigrant who uses a false Social Security number to get a job doesn't .
 
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no, it is not. period. they are not defrauding any living American. why do you post such ignorant "facts?" here, try reading this-

Supreme Court Rejects Use of Identity-Theft Law Against ...

https://www.nytimes.com › 2009/05/05

May 4, 2009 - Justices Limit Use of Identity Theft Law in Immigration Cases ... use fake identification numbers to commit some other crimes must know they belong to ... “An immigrant who uses a false Social Security number to get a job doesn't .
From your link:

“If it turns out that the number belongs to a real person,” Justice Alito wrote, “two years will be added to the defendant’s sentence, but if the defendant is lucky and the number does not belong to another person, the statute is not violated.”


Oops!

You lose again! Oh and thanks for the help. It wasn't needed, but is certainly appreciated.
 

llovejim

Current Champion
From your link:

“If it turns out that the number belongs to a real person,” Justice Alito wrote, “two years will be added to the defendant’s sentence, but if the defendant is lucky and the number does not belong to another person, the statute is not violated.”


Oops!

You lose again! Oh and thanks for the help. It wasn't needed, but is certainly appreciated.
if the guy is dead, it doesn't freaking matter. if it is somehow a fake number, it still doesn't matter. so deal with that. screw a bunch of laws that prosecute someone IF IT DOES NOT HARM ANYONE....that is like the dumbass pot laws that ruined so many lives for so many years, but damn if most right wingers still wanted them enforced. and today, with prostitution laws or gambling laws, when those are almost always victimless crimes. maybe you like prosecuting people for victimless crimes...who gives a shit? just something else you are wrong as hell about it and seem pretty proud of.
 
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if the guy is dead, it doesn't freaking matter. if it is somehow a fake number, it still doesn't matter. so deal with that. screw a bunch of laws that prosecute someone IF IT DOES NOT HARM ANYONE....that is like the dumbass pot laws that ruined so many lives for so many years, but damn if most right wingers still wanted them enforced. and today, with prostitution laws or gambling laws, when those are almost always victimless crimes. maybe you like prosecuting people for victimless crimes...who gives a shit? just something else you are wrong as hell about it and seem pretty proud of.
Great! So we can all just walk around with phony identification papers and everything will be hunky dory! You see, this is the problem with people who can't THINK for themselves.
 

llovejim

Current Champion
Great! So we can all just walk around with phony identification papers and everything will be hunky dory! You see, this is the problem with people who can't THINK for themselves.
it's cool with me. you must long for the days when nazis controlled germany and they had the authority to just ask anyone "for their paperz."

people who like the government to control their every movement, who do not like a free and open society where people are not profiled and subject to police harassment for no real reason, tend to freak out when they think someone is not walking around with the right "paperz," even if it does not affect him in the least.

hate to burst your snot bubble, but those people are the ones who do not or can not think for themselves.
 
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it's cool with me. you must long for the days when nazis controlled germany and they had the authority to just ask anyone "for their paperz."

people who like the government to control their every movement, who do not like a free and open society where people are not profiled and subject to police harassment for no real reason, tend to freak out when they think someone is not walking around with the right "paperz," even if it does not affect him in the least.

hate to burst your snot bubble, but those people are the ones who do not or can not think for themselves.
Your lying rage is noted. Hopefully, they'll come by and give you your morning meds soon and you can drift back off to Thorazine utopia. Be patient, grasshopper.
 

llovejim

Current Champion
Your lying rage is noted. Hopefully, they'll come by and give you your morning meds soon and you can drift back off to Thorazine utopia. Be patient, grasshopper.
funny how in your rage that some illegal somewhere is providing a better life for himself and his family in this country, you act like your betters are in a rage when they provide facts that prove you are just acting like a 70 year old geezer in a rocking chair bitching about kids walking on his lawn. relax, geezer.

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funny how in your rage that some illegal somewhere is providing a better life for himself and his family in this country, you act like your betters are in a rage when they provide facts that prove you are just acting like a 70 year old geezer in a rocking chair bitching about kids walking on his lawn. relax, geezer.

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Maybe you're right. Robbers and burglars are just trying to make a better life for themselves. I shouldn't be so rigid in my thinking.

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llovejim

Current Champion
Maybe you're right. Robbers and burglars are just trying to make a better life for themselves. I shouldn't be so rigid in my thinking.

lmao@neanderthals
not even close. name how an illegal using a SS card number of a dead man, working a real job, paying into SS for years and years, and never being able to take it out, somehow affects you in any way but positive? or society? why are you so sensitive and easily hurt?
 
No, you're wrong as usual. Getting a speeding ticket is a one-time event that is over once a person pays the ticket. Entering the country illegally and staying is far more like trespassing. When one trespasses, as long as they are on that property they've trespassed on, they continue to be a trespasser and at risk for being sanctioned for their actions. You leftists SUCK at comparisons. The only question is, is it due to dishonesty or ignorance?

I say it's both. Nice try. Now tell me again how identity fraud and tax evasion are good for the country. And tell me how sticking law-abiding Americans and LEGAL residents with the bill for health care for illegal aliens is a good thing. Better yet, scream your position throughout the 2020 campaign. Just make sure you tell everyone you're a DemocRAT.
Actually, according to the law, entering the country illegally is a one time event too. It is a misdemeanor. There is no crime for being here without papers. only one for entering without them.

It is a misdemeanor just like the other things; mentioned.

Just a fact.
 
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Actually, according to the law, entering the country illegally is a one time event too. It is a misdemeanor. There is no crime for being here without papers. only one for entering without them.

It is a misdemeanor just like the other things; mentioned.

Just a fact.
Speeding is an infraction. People who get speeding tickets aren't even criminals.Thanks for reminding of yet another failure of your comparison by specifying illegal entry is a crime.

So you remain a criminal who has not settled with government until you you are caught and prosecuted. Yes, that's precisely my point.

Here, use my shovel:

 
Speeding is an infraction. People who get speeding tickets aren't even criminals.Thanks for reminding of yet another failure of your comparison by specifying illegal entry is a crime.

So you remain a criminal who has not settled with government until you you are caught and prosecuted. Yes, that's precisely my point.

Here, use my shovel:

My example was people who have driven after drinking a few beers and people who go significantly over the speed limit.....which is a misdemeanor not a mere speeding infraction.
 

JackDallas

Senator
Supporting Member
is discussing this here.o_O
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/05/us/mexico-mormon-attack-what-we-know/index.html
From the link;
"Investigators believe the three vehicles, traveling between the Mexican states of Sonora and Chihuahua, were ambushed by criminal groups Monday, Mexican authorities said.
"Women and children (between 14 years old and 10 months) were massacred, burned alive," LeBaron said. "Mothers were screaming for the fire to stop."
They were driving together for safety reasons, said Kendra Lee Miller, whose sister-in-law was killed in the attack. The family was supposed to go to Miller's wedding next week in La Mora, she said.
Seven children injured in the attack were flown from Mexico to Douglas, Arizona, for transport to Tucson hospitals, LeBaron said."
What I've heard is that the group has been speaking out about the cartels and their violence and lawlessness. That is allegedly why they were attacked. These animals are the kind of people Democrats are protecting in this country.
When President Trump called them animals, the snowflakes got all miffed about it and said some sort of stupid shit like, They're human beings, not animals.
Human beings don't do the things the MS-13 gangs and the Mexican drug cartels do.
 
My example was people who have driven after drinking a few beers and people who go significantly over the speed limit.....which is a misdemeanor not a mere speeding infraction.
So does someone who o
Speeding is an infraction. People who get speeding tickets aren't even criminals.Thanks for reminding of yet another failure of your comparison by specifying illegal entry is a crime.

So you remain a criminal who has not settled with government until you you are caught and prosecuted. Yes, that's precisely my point.

Here, use my shovel:

So does someone who occasionally drove after drinking in their college years remain a criminal until they settle with the government on that?
 

JackDallas

Senator
Supporting Member
The savages should be kept out. We agree on that.

Mexican immigrants, both legal and illegal, make this country better.

I am sure we disagree on that.
I don't necessarily disagree on that but they only make it better if they are not allowed to burden our welfare, medical and education systems. There should be a guest worker program in which Mexican immigrants can cross the border to work, be paid a decent wage (not 8 bucks an hour) and cross the border as often as necessary to maintain their family structure. They should have a path to citizenship. But they should not be able to bring wives and kids, grandparents, aunts and uncles, cousins, brothers and sisters all of whom fill up the hospital waiting rooms, the school class rooms and the welfare offices getting free money from the American taxpayer.
This scenario would quickly be outlawed by the Democrats because Hispanics are basically conservative people and in a few years they would not be voting Democrat because there would be no money in it for them.
 

Bernard_Fokke

Captain Fokke
Supporting Member
is discussing this here.o_O
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/05/us/mexico-mormon-attack-what-we-know/index.html
From the link;
"Investigators believe the three vehicles, traveling between the Mexican states of Sonora and Chihuahua, were ambushed by criminal groups Monday, Mexican authorities said.
"Women and children (between 14 years old and 10 months) were massacred, burned alive," LeBaron said. "Mothers were screaming for the fire to stop."
They were driving together for safety reasons, said Kendra Lee Miller, whose sister-in-law was killed in the attack. The family was supposed to go to Miller's wedding next week in La Mora, she said.
Seven children injured in the attack were flown from Mexico to Douglas, Arizona, for transport to Tucson hospitals, LeBaron said."
There's too much preoccupation with trying to railroad the President and the country, time for a civil war to set things right.
 
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