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In Honor Of Our Brave United States' Armed forces.

In honor of our armed forces, who's Commander in Chief, Barack Hussein Obama, is apologizing to their enemies for killing them:

"Oh beautiful, for heroes proved,
In liberating strife,

Who more than self, our country loved,
And mercy more than life,

America, America, may God thy gold refine,
Till all success be nobleness
And every gain devined."

And don't give me that liberal leftist crap about how he HAS to do it in order to reduce 'danger' to our troops.

Apologizing to your enemy for killing you doesn't reduce the danger to anyone. It encourages your enemy to do more of it.
 

Zebulon

Council Member
And don't give me that liberal leftist crap about how he HAS to do it in order to reduce 'danger' to our troops.

Apologizing to your enemy for killing you doesn't reduce the danger to anyone. It encourages your enemy to do more of it.
Attacks went up in Iraq after Abu Ghraib. It's a fact.. not "leftist crap."

Obama has done more for the troops in his 3 years than GDubs did in eight.

Those are facts. Not "leftist crap."

Try again.
 
Attacks went up in Iraq after Abu Ghraib. It's a fact.. not "leftist crap."
Bullcrap. The attacks went up after we apologized for Abu Ghraib, and the attacks are going up in Afghanistan after Obama apologized to the people who killed our troops.

With your great knowledge of military policy, you'd make a good mess kit repairman.
 

Bo-4

Senator
Meh.. you guys don't give a rat's ass about the troops. Wear them on your sleeve if you must, but don't expect rational folks to buy it after 8 years of Bushie screwing them over.

And yes, we owed them an apology. Mature people don't ask for an apology first (as Newt suggested was in order).

That's a grammar school playground game.
 

Zebulon

Council Member
Bullcrap. The attacks went up after we apologized for Abu Ghraib, and the attacks are going up in Afghanistan after Obama apologized to the people who killed our troops.

With your great knowledge of military policy, you'd make a good mess kit repairman.
So you're saying we should NOT have apologized for Abu Ghraib? We should NOT have apologized for burning their Korans?
 
Meh.. you guys don't give a rat's ass about the troops. Wear them on your sleeve if you must, but don't expect rational folks to buy it after 8 years of Bushie screwing them over.
What fantasy world are you living in?

Obama's reducing troop strength, reducing troop pay, increasing their health care costs, reducing combat pay and reducing military pensions.

Why does the left always have to lie to make their point?

I know why, because Leftism is Progressivism is Liberalism is Marxism is Communism.

And all those ideologies are are lies.


And all those ideologies are complete, utter, stunning failures.

And even though the facts that they are failing now are evident both here and across the western world are clearly evident, the left continue on, always blaming their failures on others, and never accepting responsibility for their destructive actions.
 
So you're saying we should NOT have apologized for Abu Ghraib? We should NOT have apologized for burning their Korans?
You're damn right that's what I'm saying.

And while we're at it, I didn't seem to notice any of the leader of any Arab nation apologize for the Christians that are being slaughtered in Egypt and elsewhere.

But damn, dispose of a few Koran's and all hell breaks loose.

These people are insane fanatics and don't deserve any decency period.
 

Zebulon

Council Member
You're damn right that's what I'm saying.

And while we're at it, I didn't seem to notice any of the leader of any Arab nation apologize for the Christians that are being slaughtered in Egypt and elsewhere.

But damn, dispose of a few Koran's and all hell breaks loose.

These people are insane fanatics and don't deserve any decency period.
So we don't take the high road. We disrespect their land, their people and their religion and we expect to "win" this "War on Terrorism." Just like you guys did in Vietnam huh? How did that work out for you?
 
So we don't take the high road. We disrespect their land, their people and their religion and we expect to "win" this "War on Terrorism." Just like you guys did in Vietnam huh? How did that work out for you?
More Liberal Nonsense.

Want to know how to win a war, it's pretty damn easy. Be more ruthless than the other guy.

Did we apologize for fire bombing Dresden and dropping a Nuclear Weapon on Japan? Those were policies that actually worked and won the war for us.

Contrary to popular liberal belief, wars are not won by throwing flowers at the enemy.

And we didn't lose in Vietnam. After the 1968 Tet offensive, the Viet Cong were totally destroyed. It was liberal [Unwelcome language removed] in the media and elsewhere that declared 'this war is lost' when in fact it was just about won.

And the so called atrocities in Vietnam where highly exaggerated by cowards like John Kerry who fragged himself in the ass to get out after 6 months because he couldn't handle combat.

You Libs should really stay out of military matters; you're gonna get us all killed someday.
 

Zebulon

Council Member
I wore the uniform for eight years Staples. I have just as much of a right to express my opinion as you do.

Did I ever say we should apologize for Dresden or Hiroshima? It was a military strategic move that helped lead to the end of a bloody war.

When US soldiers are caught tying electrobes to the testicles of detainees.. Yes. You should apologize. We still fight while obeying the rules of war. Just because the other side doesn't follow the same rules, it doesn't mean we have an open book to tea-bag any Muslim we come across.
 
I wore the uniform for eight years Staples. I have just as much of a right to express my opinion as you do.
I never stated that you didn't.
When US soldiers are caught tying electrobes to the testicles of detainees.. Yes. You should apologize.
I would gladly engage in such activity if I knew it would result in information that would save Americans lives.
Yes. You should apologize. We still fight while obeying the rules of war.
War is the only activity in which there are no rules, accept the rule "We win they lose."

I wish that Obama would issue the following apology though.

"I apologize to the 47% of Americans that didn't vote for me for the abject stupidity of the 53% who did."
 
You're damn right that's what I'm saying.

And while we're at it, I didn't seem to notice any of the leader of any Arab nation apologize for the Christians that are being slaughtered in Egypt and elsewhere.

But damn, dispose of a few Koran's and all hell breaks loose.

These people are insane fanatics and don't deserve any decency period.
If you bothered to read what all the Arabs where saying in Egypt about the attacks on the Arab Coptic Christians you would know that they are being attacked by the same mobs of thugs who worked for Mubarack.

Next time America is an Occupied country and Occupied by a Muslum Army whose 'uneducated' and or disrespectful ones burn your Bibles and Flags, and you just smile and turn the other cheek, then and only then you can say how very wrong Afganis are to be enraged.

And as for Abu Grab maybe it says more about you, you yourself personally agreeing with your soldiers f'ucking political prisoners arses and pissing and [Unwelcome language removed] all over them and forcing them at gun point to perform indecent acts apon one another than it does about your innocent 'fanatics' who have children and families to face with the shame of what was done to them whilst in your loving care.
 

Days

Commentator
So by your line of "reasoning" ... kill 'em all and let God sort them out? Why didn't GW nuke 'em to kingdom Come? What a pansy president, eh? Why does he go in there and yield all these American lives?? We would not have lost a single life just nuking the whole nation... and again in Iraq, and hell, I'm sure you would be good with nuking over half the planet, right?
 

jammer

Mayor
What fantasy world are you living in?

Obama's reducing troop strength, reducing troop pay, increasing their health care costs, reducing combat pay and reducing military pensions.

Why does the left always have to lie to make their point?

I know why, because Leftism is Progressivism is Liberalism is Marxism is Communism.

And all those ideologies are are lies.


And all those ideologies are complete, utter, stunning failures.

And even though the facts that they are failing now are evident both here and across the western world are clearly evident, the left continue on, always blaming their failures on others, and never accepting responsibility for their destructive actions.
You rightwingers only care about the troops while they are dying for your mistakes. Once they come home broken and bleeding you want to sweep them under the carpet or ignore them altogether. Been there, seen that.
 

jammer

Mayor
More Liberal Nonsense.

Want to know how to win a war, it's pretty damn easy. Be more ruthless than the other guy.

Did we apologize for fire bombing Dresden and dropping a Nuclear Weapon on Japan? Those were policies that actually worked and won the war for us.

Contrary to popular liberal belief, wars are not won by throwing flowers at the enemy.

And we didn't lose in Vietnam. After the 1968 Tet offensive, the Viet Cong were totally destroyed. It was liberal [Unwelcome language removed] in the media and elsewhere that declared 'this war is lost' when in fact it was just about won.

And the so called atrocities in Vietnam where highly exaggerated by cowards like John Kerry who fragged himself in the ass to get out after 6 months because he couldn't handle combat.

You Libs should really stay out of military matters; you're gonna get us all killed someday.
Bullshit. I doubt if you were ever there or anywhere near Vietnam. It's jackasses like you that cheer about the loss of our soldiers for senseless crap like it is something good. And then when their remains come home you want to hide them like they don't exist. Bite me "sarge".
 
Bullshit. I doubt if you were ever there or anywhere near Vietnam. It's jackasses like you that cheer about the loss of our soldiers for senseless crap like it is something good. And then when their remains come home you want to hide them like they don't exist. Bite me "sarge".
If you like, I'll email you a copy of my DD214, along with citations I was awarded.

On second though, screw you. I don't really have to prove myself to any Military hating Liberal moron.
 
If you like, I'll email you a copy of my DD214, along with citations I was awarded.

On second though, screw you. I don't really have to prove myself to any Military hating Liberal moron.
The Irish have a greeting 'And what have you got to prove ?' ....none of us on here has any need of proving anything to any one. If we respect each other as having come this far in life and so having, no matter what, certian wisdoms ................... none of us has any need to prove anything, just be ourselves, No ?
 
And as for Abu Grab maybe it says more about you, you yourself personally agreeing with your soldiers f'ucking political prisoners arses and pissing and [Unwelcome language removed] all over them and forcing them at gun point to perform indecent acts apon one another than it does about your innocent 'fanatics' who have children and families to face with the shame of what was done to them whilst in your loving care.
Here's my apology.

"I'd like to apologize to the magnificent men and women or our Armed Forces; those in combat, those going into combat, those who have served in combat in our many wars, the WW2 Vets, Korean War Vets, Vietnam Vets, Iraqi war Vets, Veterans of the War in Afghanistan, for the jerk in the White House, for the jerk that's Secretary of State, and for the Jerk that's Secretary of Defense.

These people Hate the military. They're cutting your pay, increasing your medical costs, cutting your retirement and cutting your combat pay.

Meanwhile there's never enough for the fat assed bureaucrats sitting at their desks in Washington, issuing regulation after regulation, trying to control every aspect of our lives. And there's never enough for the moochers and losers in our society, the moochers on food stamps, the moochers on government housing subsidies, the moochers on unemployment, the losers who bought homes they couldn't afford with no down payment and a sub prime mortgage. Let's double or triple what we're giving them.

Meanwhile, when it comes to our magnificent men and women in the Armed Forces, its cut, cut, cut and cut some more.

More than enough reason to throw these bastards out on their asses. And we're going to do it in November.

Any thinking American, and I still believe they're in the majority, is disgusted with our current government.

So hang in there, help is on the way.
 
They are cutting the Military here too. Should we maybe ask the real reasons why, or just go into a silly rant about it blaming any one whom we simply don't like the look of ? Two reasons that I can think of are ....Firstly, We know that our Armies are being changed into openly Mercenary forces and secondly the intent is to War as their test run in Libya.

Abu Grab was an order from the Top. It was the old Imperial trick. Pertetrate horrors on to the few and so instill terror into the masses. Though the choice of horrors in this case were very, screwed up ???? To put it mildly. What sort of porn I wonder do some of your 'boys' and 'girls' watch ?
 
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