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Iran? not so fast...

4/15

Mayor
Sorry, but I’m not quite yet buying the narrative of Iran attacking tankers/pipeline that’s being pumped right now and the knee jerk motivation to move forces in response to it.

Maybe I’m a cautious old military guy, but something in this just doesn’t add up.
You are most likely correct but rumpy has no clue about military intelligence. Let alone intelligence period. Look at China and tariffs.
 

NinaS

Senator
Supporting Member
It has the stink of the Gulf of Tonkin.
If Trump sends our troops to die, he should send his own sons first. He claims they are the two best shots ever. Let them put their skills to good use. UNLESS they have bone spurs and don't pass the physical. If they checked their mentality, I suppose that'd make them exempt as well.
 

JuliefromOhio

Senator
Supporting Member
If Trump sends our troops to die, he should send his own sons first. He claims they are the two best shots ever. Let them put their skills to good use. UNLESS they have bone spurs and don't pass the physical. If they checked their mentality, I suppose that'd make them exempt as well.
Last time Republicans lied us into war, they had to lower the bar and accept low IQ and low mental health functioning troops like gang bangers to make do. So there's a place for Uday and Qusay.
 

JuliefromOhio

Senator
Supporting Member
This whole phony "crises" reeks of that idiot Bolton
And Pompeo, too.

Reported by Bloomberg News:

"U.S. Secretary of State Michael Pompeo made scant progress persuading European Union counterparts to take a harder line toward Iran during a quick visit to Brussels, with the EU standing behind the nuclear accord abandoned by Washington -- and warning of a potential military conflict.

Pompeo presented what the U.S. says is fresh intelligence on the threat posed by Iran in meetings with counterparts from the three EU nations that joined the landmark 2015 accord that President Donald Trump abandoned a year ago. The top U.S. diplomat received a cool initial response to the surprise visit as foreign ministers from the 28-member bloc convened in the Belgian capital.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-13/pompeo-fails-to-sway-allies-on-iran-in-an-awkward-surprise-visit
 

NinaS

Senator
Supporting Member
Last time Republicans lied us into war, they had to lower the bar and accept low IQ and low mental health functioning troops like gang bangers to make do. So there's a place for Uday and Qusay.
Yep, and John Bolton was complicit in invading Iraq, and now he wants war with Iran.
Bolton needs to de-louse that bush over his lip and stay out of politics. I remember when he was one of Bush's thugs who stopped the re=count in FL in 2000. And he emerges again as one of Trump's stooges.
 

The truth

Council Member
This whole phony "crises" reeks of that idiot Bolton
And Pompeo, too.

Reported by Bloomberg News:

"U.S. Secretary of State Michael Pompeo made scant progress persuading European Union counterparts to take a harder line toward Iran during a quick visit to Brussels, with the EU standing behind the nuclear accord abandoned by Washington -- and warning of a potential military conflict.

Pompeo presented what the U.S. says is fresh intelligence on the threat posed by Iran in meetings with counterparts from the three EU nations that joined the landmark 2015 accord that President Donald Trump abandoned a year ago. The top U.S. diplomat received a cool initial response to the surprise visit as foreign ministers from the 28-member bloc convened in the Belgian capital.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-13/pompeo-fails-to-sway-allies-on-iran-in-an-awkward-surprise-visit
Nobody in NATO will support this,America will be vilified for this idiotic aggression
 
I agree, they said this morning that the chances of Trump READING the briefing were next to nothing and Bolton was spearheading this. There isn't a war he didn't like to say the least.
Sheep Goosestepping Behind Chickenhawks

Bolton didn't like the war he weaseled out of fighting in. Those who talk loudest run away the quickest.
 
The whole thing looks phoney,moving US forces around like toy soldiers.I would think most Americans do not want another military quagmire in the middle east
Every Bodybag Is Stamped "Made in Geneva"

Quagmires are caused by unrealistic and suicidal Rules of Engagement. Drafting the brats of the rich at age 18 for two years active duty is the only way to get the rulers to scrap those air-conditioned ethics. They are designed solely to kill off or take the fight out of the bravest of those who weren't born rich.
 

kaz

Small l libertarian
Yep, and John Bolton was complicit in invading Iraq, and now he wants war with Iran.
Bolton needs to de-louse that bush over his lip and stay out of politics. I remember when he was one of Bush's thugs who stopped the re=count in FL in 2000. And he emerges again as one of Trump's stooges.
And the war hawk Obama maintained W's timeline in Iraq and expanded Afghanistan before he meddled in Egypt and Syria and then toppled Libya
 

JuliefromOhio

Senator
Supporting Member
This whole phony "crises" reeks of that idiot Bolton

Nobody in NATO will support this,America will be vilified for this idiotic aggression
America was vilified the last time.....when GWBush lied us into invading Iraq.

I guess Trump supporters don't mind that their mentally unbalanced, reckless, incompetent and corrupt president is marching us to war. Republicans will be too worried about being primaried and losing their seats.....to stand up against this fool Trump. It's party over country for the no morals, no values Republicans.
 

JuliefromOhio

Senator
Supporting Member
Yep, and John Bolton was complicit in invading Iraq, and now he wants war with Iran.
Bolton needs to de-louse that bush over his lip and stay out of politics. I remember when he was one of Bush's thugs who stopped the re=count in FL in 2000. And he emerges again as one of Trump's stooges.
Trump supporters will go along with whatever their mentally unstable president does. Shooting someone on 5th Avenue or starting a war with Iran. They don't care.
 

The truth

Council Member
America was vilified the last time.....when GWBush lied us into invading Iraq.

I guess Trump supporters don't mind that their mentally unbalanced, reckless, incompetent and corrupt president is marching us to war. Republicans will be too worried about being primaried and losing their seats.....to stand up against this fool Trump. It's party over country for the no morals, no values Republicans.
I don't think even trump wants this stupid war.This is Bolton and pompeo
 

EatTheRich

President
The whole thing looks phoney,moving US forces around like toy soldiers.I would think most Americans do not want another military quagmire in the middle east
Yeah, but it’s not like they let us vote. @Sickofleft made a pretty good case that the U.S. doesn’t want a war. Obviously Iran doesn’t. Russia might, as might the extreme Russia hawks in both parties in Washington.
 

EatTheRich

President
If Trump sends our troops to die, he should send his own sons first. He claims they are the two best shots ever. Let them put their skills to good use. UNLESS they have bone spurs and don't pass the physical. If they checked their mentality, I suppose that'd make them exempt as well.
Donald Jr., 41, is too old to enlist under current rules. Barron, 13, is too young.

His other three kids, Ivanka, Eric, and Tiffany, are all fighting age.
 

EatTheRich

President
Yep, and John Bolton was complicit in invading Iraq, and now he wants war with Iran.
Bolton needs to de-louse that bush over his lip and stay out of politics. I remember when he was one of Bush's thugs who stopped the re=count in FL in 2000. And he emerges again as one of Trump's stooges.
A new administration, much less a new staff, won’t fundamentally change the social crisis compelling the U.S. toward imperialist war. From Clinton, to Bush, to Obama, to Trump, is has been the same story.
 
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