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Iran now a year away from a nuclear weapon

Nice dodge.

You claimed you didn’t want Iran to get Nukes. Barry’s deal allowed it, yet you support the deal.

Hypocrite much?
How do you prevent Iran from getting a nuke?
The correct answer is 1 day at a time. 10 years buys a lot of time that just disappeared because Republicans elected a f*ck-up for president.
 

Nostra

Governor
How do you prevent Iran from getting a nuke?
The correct answer is 1 day at a time. 10 years buys a lot of time that just disappeared because Republicans elected a f*ck-up for president.
Another dodge.

Why did you support something that ensures Iran getting Nukes with no consequences?
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
How do you prevent Iran from getting a nuke?
The correct answer is 1 day at a time. 10 years buys a lot of time that just disappeared because Republicans elected a f*ck-up for president.
As you see, you’re wasting your time.

Trump breached the Iran nuke deal, as demanded by his rabble, because it wasn’t “good enough.” What’s their plan to get a “better one”? They have no such plan. That’s obviously not important to them. All that matters to them is that Trump undid an international deal in which Obama played a role. Trump has done that and they expect no more, even though it makes Iran more dangerous.

At the same time, they fully applaud Trump’s abysmal failure with the NK Fat Boy. Over two years ago Trump declared that the time for talking with NK was over. Trump assured his rabble that NK would be denuclearized. What has happened since? Just more talking. NK still has all its nukes. To add to Trump’s abysmal failure, as if that were even possible, Trump glorifies the NK Fat Boy, one of the worst murderous dictators of the modern era.

It’s all rather surreal.
 
As you see, you’re wasting your time.

Trump breached the Iran nuke deal, as demanded by his rabble, because it wasn’t “good enough.” What’s their plan to get a “better one”? They have no such plan. That’s obviously not important to them. All that matters to them is that Trump undid an international deal in which Obama played a role. Trump has done that and they expect no more, even though it makes Iran more dangerous.

At the same time, they fully applaud Trump’s abysmal failure with the NK Fat Boy. Over two years ago Trump declared that the time for talking with NK was over. Trump assured his rabble that NK would be denuclearized. What has happened since? Just more talking. NK still has all its nukes. To add to Trump’s abysmal failure, as if that were even possible, Trump glorifies the NK Fat Boy, one of the worst murderous dictators of the modern era.

It’s all rather surreal.
He will never secure complete, verifiable, irreversible denuclearization from NK because that deal would look exactly like the JCPOA.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
He will never secure complete, verifiable, irreversible denuclearization from NK because that deal would look exactly like the JCPOA.
Yup. Trump will never achieve a deal with NK anywhere near as restrictive as the Iran nuke deal. But his rabble will still sing his praises.

It’s a cult.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Bullshit. Israeli intelligence asked the iaea multiple times to investigate suspicious sites in Iran which the IAEA refused. Finally, they visited a site which the Iranians begged them not to visit and which the Iranians insisted was just a scrap metal storehouse. Radioactive material was found.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/tv-iaea-finds-traces-of-radioactive-material-at-iran-site-named-by-netanyahu/amp/

Like I said, you've got left wing dung for brains if you truly believe the Iranians were not trying to build a bomb. Clown.
The Israeli PM is under investigation and doing his best to wag the dog.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
So how do you propose preventing Iran from getting a nuke?
they should probably enter into some sort of binding agreement. One that is verifiable, transparent, and allows for the routine and complete inspection of the facilities and programs in question

You, how do you think we should prevent them from getting nukes?
 
they should probably enter into some sort of binding agreement. One that is verifiable, transparent, and allows for the routine and complete inspection of the facilities and programs in question
You indicated you didn't trust them, because they violated previous agreements. What will change?
You, how do you think we should prevent them from getting nukes?
That's impossible while Trump is still in office.
Step 1,) Trump leaves office.
Step 2.) Get Iran back in the JCPOA. Which will be difficult because they can't trust us at the moment.
Step 3.) Pass the JCPOA as a treaty. So the next Republican dipshit can't back out for dumb@$$ political reasons.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
You indicated you didn't trust them, because they violated previous agreements. What will change?

That's impossible while Trump is still in office.
Step 1,) Trump leaves office.
Step 2.) Get Iran back in the JCPOA. Which will be difficult because they can't trust us at the moment.
Step 3.) Pass the JCPOA as a treaty. So the next Republican dipshit can't back out for dumb@$$ political reasons.
So you have no ideas got it.

I don't really think it's the United Statesthat is the untrustworthy piece of this relationship
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
The JCPOA was the best anyone's gonna get.

Iran was upholding their end till Trump up and left the JCPOA for no reason.
Now... how does Iran get out of the sanctions?
It was? By whose say so?
numerous references have been provided in this thread outlining the slowness of response to inspection requests, refusal of inspections and access, lacking verification of the dismantling of certain aspects of the program and so on down the lane.

by no stretch of the imagination is this one the best anyone's going to get because the record is clear there has never been a good one attained.

Current state they sit exactly where they were before this document existed, that being more than 2 months but likely about a year out from producing p enough materials to manufacture a nuclear weapon
 
It was? By whose say so?
numerous references have been provided in this thread outlining the slowness of response to inspection requests, refusal of inspections and access, lacking verification of the dismantling of certain aspects of the program and so on down the lane.
All of which came after Trump left the JCPOA.
by no stretch of the imagination is this one the best anyone's going to get because the record is clear there has never been a good one attained.

Current state they sit exactly where they were before this document existed, that being more than 2 months but likely about a year out from producing p enough materials to manufacture a nuclear weapon
They were 10 years away from ever thinking about enriching Uranium the levels necessary to build a bomb. Now they are 1. A clear failure of Trump's foreign policy.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
All of which came after Trump left the JCPOA.

They were 10 years away from ever thinking about enriching Uranium the levels necessary to build a bomb. Now they are 1. A clear failure of Trump's foreign policy.

no... it was the basis of the JCPOA - to have them adhere to a one year... though they were assessed at being 2-3 months away at the time the deal was negotiating.

https://www.cnn.com/2015/04/02/politics/iran-nuclear-deal-main-points-of-agreement/
 
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