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Yellow Ghosts


The European Jews had plenty of time to mobilize before it was too late. What do our gunowners claim will happen if the government even starts to confiscate their weapons?

Why would they need sympathy from the Christian Germans before they could fight back? How are any of the excuses you recite logical; they all come out of King Cowardice propaganda. Early on, even in the 1920s, the Jews knew what was coming if the Nazis became any more popular than a fringe group. Denial is a deadly escape.

They tried to emigrate. They tried to hide. They pretended that the German military was weak and wouldn't last very long once England and France stood up against it. America will fall under tyranny also if these excuses become acceptable whenever our own freedom becomes threatened.

They came under the spell of Freud's contempt for manliness, everybody a weak and trapped Mama's Boy. Kafka's gutless escapist confusion and Einstein's weird science took away a rational response to a clear, present, and growing threat to their very existence. The Marxist alternative, though violent, would have also pitted Jew against Jew. Their cultural heroes were the Pied Pipers setting the cadence on the march to the gas chambers.
The oldest Torah is only 800 years old - so Judaism, as we know it today, is a 'new' religion of Eastern Europe ( around the Black Sea) - before that there were no Jews ( Jew was a mistranslation by an early English translator of the Bible) it was the Judean which was a Roman province = the wandering Arab.

The Talmud is another kettle of fish altogether with teachings on intercourse with 3 yr old girl children and 9 yr old boy children - the ins and outs.
 
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The Jews didn't really have the opportunity to organize the kind of resistance you speak of. The Germans had disarmed the populace early on after Hitler had seized power. His propaganda program had whipped up a false narrative against the Jews so there was very little sympathy for them among the German people.
When they did fight back, as in Warsaw, they were slaughtered, being no match for the German Army.
Every crime committed against the Jews (before the death camps) was legal under German law. Hitler's government changed or created laws that permitted German citizens to take the homes and property of Jews.
By the time they are aware of just how powerless they were to defend themselves, it was too late to fight back.
Hitler gave his people their guns back - The Weimar Republic had taken the guns.

After WWI, at Versaille because of Balfour, the Germans understood what had happened.

God knows WWI was a ridiculous horror fought for no reason at all except for the wish of a few to break the central powers. The British had one weeks supplies left Germany had been calling for a cease fire and to roll 'our' armies back ( as did Hitler in the next European blood bath) for a long time --- The British were busy plotting how to split up the Ottoman Empire (even before it fell) promising everything to everyone so they did not want the war to end - Zionists from Germany went to the British war cabinet and said ' you give us Palestine ( it was not their to give) and we will persuade the Americans to come and fight with you' ............. The wickedness of Versaille was not forgotten by the good German people, the soldiers of whom felt doubly betrayed because the still believed they could have won that war when their corrupt politicos surrendered.
 

JackDallas

Senator
Supporting Member
Hitler gave his people their guns back - The Weimar Republic had taken the guns.

After WWI, at Versaille because of Balfour, the Germans understood what had happened.

God knows WWI was a ridiculous horror fought for no reason at all except for the wish of a few to break the central powers. The British had one weeks supplies left Germany had been calling for a cease fire and to roll 'our' armies back ( as did Hitler in the next European blood bath) for a long time --- The British were busy plotting how to split up the Ottoman Empire (even before it fell) promising everything to everyone so they did not want the war to end - Zionists from Germany went to the British war cabinet and said ' you give us Palestine ( it was not their to give) and we will persuade the Americans to come and fight with you' ............. The wickedness of Versaille was not forgotten by the good German people, the soldiers of whom felt doubly betrayed because the still believed they could have won that war when their corrupt politicos surrendered.
That's simply not true.
 

JackDallas

Senator
Supporting Member
The Jews declared war on Germany first, long before Britain and France did - but it was their betrayal of Germany in WWI and then their profiting from it after Versailles which turned Germans against them. Germany had taken Jews fleeing Russia wit open arms but were seen to betray their hosts at Versaille.

But .... no Jew was detained as 'an enemy of the state' until the French and British ( at Roosevelt's instiation, declared war.

The rich Jews had already left Germany before war was declared with their wealth.
I understand that you are a holocaust denier and therefore have your own version of history.
It is true that Hitler's initial goal was not to eradicate the Jews. He just wanted to get them out of Germany. But he did launch a campaign to legally steal their homes and businesses.
It was as the German Army overrun other countries that the Jews became a problem for him. Thus came the Final Solution to the Jewish problem. They began killing the Jews in massive numbers.
The evidence for the holocaust is undeniable to any educated person.
 

JackDallas

Senator
Supporting Member
Yellow Ghosts


The European Jews had plenty of time to mobilize before it was too late. What do our gunowners claim will happen if the government even starts to confiscate their weapons?

Why would they need sympathy from the Christian Germans before they could fight back? How are any of the excuses you recite logical; they all come out of King Cowardice propaganda. Early on, even in the 1920s, the Jews knew what was coming if the Nazis became any more popular than a fringe group. Denial is a deadly escape.

They tried to emigrate. They tried to hide. They pretended that the German military was weak and wouldn't last very long once England and France stood up against it. America will fall under tyranny also if these excuses become acceptable whenever our own freedom becomes threatened.

They came under the spell of Freud's contempt for manliness, everybody a weak and trapped Mama's Boy. Kafka's gutless escapist confusion and Einstein's weird science took away a rational response to a clear, present, and growing threat to their very existence. The Marxist alternative, though violent, would have also pitted Jew against Jew. Their cultural heroes were the Pied Pipers setting the cadence on the march to the gas chambers.
Most of what you say is bullshit and I won't waste my time sorting it out.
 
I understand that you are a holocaust denier and therefore have your own version of history.
It is true that Hitler's initial goal was not to eradicate the Jews. He just wanted to get them out of Germany. But he did launch a campaign to legally steal their homes and businesses.
It was as the German Army overrun other countries that the Jews became a problem for him. Thus came the Final Solution to the Jewish problem. They began killing the Jews in massive numbers.
The evidence for the holocaust is undeniable to any educated person.
I did believe the utterly ridiculous stories of gas chambers and so on until something someone said put a seed of doubt in my mind and i took that very brave journey of honest research into the whole of that episode of Europe's history. For six years I researched day and night, it became an obsession but really once one scratches the surface the whole of the post war propaganda is a very obvious lie.
No horse can be made to drink that water though Jack - I argued it for a long time both in Slate and here but words make no impact unless one is ready to open one's mind to the possibility that all one believes is wrong = which is a tough step and rough and very painful journey.

The Final Solution was a Zionist phrase for Israel = their final home land.
There is no evidence of a holocaust - zilch.
 

JackDallas

Senator
Supporting Member
I did believe the utterly ridiculous stories of gas chambers and so on until something someone said put a seed of doubt in my mind and i took that very brave journey of honest research into the whole of that episode of Europe's history. For six years I researched day and night, it became an obsession but really once one scratches the surface the whole of the post war propaganda is a very obvious lie.
No horse can be made to drink that water though Jack - I argued it for a long time both in Slate and here but words make no impact unless one is ready to open one's mind to the possibility that all one believes is wrong = which is a tough step and rough and very painful journey.

The Final Solution was a Zionist phrase for Israel = their final home land.
There is no evidence of a holocaust - zilch.
 

Emily

NSDAP Kanzler
Hitler gave his people their guns back - The Weimar Republic had taken the guns.
That's simply not true.

Summary of gun control laws in Germany by date, per Chicago professor of law Bernard Harcourt.

1919: Gun ownership is restricted to persons possessing a weapon or hunting license. Arrangements are made by the allies to confiscate all privately owned firearms under the threat of sanctions.

1920: The German population is to be disarmed with severe penalties for violators.

1927: Production of handguns with a barrel length of 98mm or greater and a bore of 8mm or larger is banned.

1928: The general prohibition on the acquisition of firearms is lifted. However, strict provisions are made requiring separate permits to own, sell, carry and manufacture firearms and ammunition. A license is still required to own long guns.

1931: Due to the rising political crises, the acquisition of firearms and ammunition is subject to further restrictions.

1933: National Socialists gain power.

1938: A weapon permit or hunting license is required for handguns only, the permit restriction for long guns is removed. The acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as the possession of ammunition is deregulated. The age limit for purchasing firearms is lowered from 20 to 18. Firearms permits are valid for three years instead of one. Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP members are no longer subject to firearm ownership restrictions. Jews are prohibited from manufacturing, dealing, possessing and carrying firearms and ammunition.
 
Most of what you say is bullshit and I won't waste my time sorting it out.
The Snowjob's Yellow Epitaph

So you prefer that everybody wallow in guilt for not stopping Hitler before he could initiate the Holocaust? That's just a way to feel morally superior. But there's nothing moral about sending fighting men to die for those who gutlessly refused to defend themselves as much as they could, including the Czechs, Poles, Danes, Belgians, Dutch, and French. That ignorant attitude becoming acceptable is what the Chickenhawks used as justification for pawning off 60,000 working-class troops to die for the gutless South Vietnamese.
 
The Snowjob's Yellow Epitaph

So you prefer that everybody wallow in guilt for not stopping Hitler before he could initiate the Holocaust? That's just a way to feel morally superior. But there's nothing moral about sending fighting men to die for those who gutlessly refused to defend themselves as much as they could, including the Czechs, Poles, Danes, Belgians, Dutch, and French. That ignorant attitude becoming acceptable is what the Chickenhawks used as justification for pawning off 60,000 working-class troops to die for the gutless South Vietnamese.
The German Czechs ( a made up country from Versaille) rightfully wanted to be repatriated - The Poles were killing ethnic minorities; Jews, Germans, Ukrainians and confiscating their homes and land ( East Prussia) and refusing Germany it's corridor to the German sea port BUT Stalin entered poland at exactly the same time as the Reich - Denmark and Belgium, The Nederlands and France were defence strategies to protect the coast -
But I agree neither European war was the business of the US - but for the few evil ones ( bankers) $$$$$$ who we always fight for
 
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