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Jabbering Joe for President!

reason10

Governor
LOL, trump tried to say that too. But couldn’t come close to pricing a thing. Aww. : )
Oh, he did, in 2013. He WON the presidency, with almost all of your left wing biased polls giving the office to Hitlary.
Trump was able to beat CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, ABC, and a few million ILLEGAL ALIENS voting.

Real America (those with jobs who are here legally) support Trump, and fortunately they are still the majority of America. And you idiots are so desperate, you can't wait to get illiterate, uneducated illegal aliens past the wall so they can illegally register to vote and elect Democrats.

You Nazis cannot win a fair election on the issues.
 

now_what

Governor
Supporting Member
Oh, he did, in 2013. He WON the presidency, with almost all of your left wing biased polls giving the office to Hitlary.
Trump was able to beat CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, ABC, and a few million ILLEGAL ALIENS voting.

Real America (those with jobs who are here legally) support Trump, and fortunately they are still the majority of America. And you idiots are so desperate, you can't wait to get illiterate, uneducated illegal aliens past the wall so they can illegally register to vote and elect Democrats.

You Nazis cannot win a fair election on the issues.
Okay, prove it. Prove that millions of illegal immigrants voted. Trump couldn’t we’ll wait to see if you can do it. : )
 

now_what

Governor
Supporting Member
Asked and answered.

(Playing dumb and ignorant doesn't work, since people are having trouble deciding when you're playing and when you're not.)
You named a state. Derp. Haha...

Where’s your proof? Logs from voting booths, legal action taken, etc.

Still waiting......
 

reason10

Governor
You named a state. Derp. Haha...

Where’s your proof? Logs from voting booths, legal action taken, etc.

Still waiting......

Asked and answered.

But for those who may have been in a coma for the last couple of years, California gave driver's licenses to illegal aliens.

End of argument.

Now if you'd like to prove that EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE ILLEGALS were not bussed to every [Unwelcome language removed] polling place in that fucked up state, I'll wait while you trot out the proof.
 

now_what

Governor
Supporting Member
Asked and answered.

But for those who may have been in a coma for the last couple of years, California gave driver's licenses to illegal aliens.

End of argument.

Now if you'd like to prove that EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE ILLEGALS were not bussed to every [Unwelcome language removed] polling place in that fucked up state, I'll wait while you trot out the proof.

I’m waiting.....
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Asked and answered.

(Playing dumb and ignorant doesn't work, since people are having trouble deciding when you're playing and when you're not.)
So if playing dumb doesn't work..why do you keep up the act? You've failed to show any evidence at all.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Asked and answered.

But for those who may have been in a coma for the last couple of years, California gave driver's licenses to illegal aliens.

End of argument.

Now if you'd like to prove that EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE ILLEGALS were not bussed to every [Unwelcome language removed] polling place in that fucked up state, I'll wait while you trot out the proof.
how would I prove a negative....having a driver' license is not casting a vote.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
In other words, you can't name a goddam thing that creepy son of a bitch accomplished, other than fondling children and committing plagiarism.
in other words you don't know shit, won't look up his senate record and would simply dismiss any source I provide.
 

reason10

Governor
how would I prove a negative....having a driver' license is not casting a vote.
In other words, you are admitting you don't know and that you are wrong.
Illegals voted in California, which is what gave Hillary that million voter cushion. That is established fact, regardless of your inability to put the crack pipe down and read the facts.

https://yesimright.com/heres-exactly-how-illegal-immigrants-are-allowed-to-vote-in-california/https://yesimright.com/heres-exactly-how-illegal-immigrants-are-allowed-to-vote-in-california/


https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-is-right-millions-of-illegals-probably-did-vote-in-2016/
But, in fact, it's almost certain that illegals did vote — and in significant numbers. Whether it was three million or not is another question.


While states control the voter registration process, some states are so notoriously slipshod in their controls (California, Virginia and New York — all of which have political movements to legalize voting by noncitizens — come to mind) that it would be shocking if many illegals didn't vote. Remember, a low-ball estimate says there are at least 11 million to 12 million illegals in the U.S., but that's based on faulty Census data. More likely estimates put the number at 20 million to 30 million.


What's disappointing is that instead of at least seriously considering Trump's charge, many media reports merely parrot leftist talking points and anti-Trump rhetoric by pushing the idea that Republicans and others not of the progressive left who seek to limit voting to citizens only are racist, xenophobic nuts.


But there is evidence to back Trump's claims. A 2014 study in the online Electoral Studies Journal shows that in the 2008 and 2010 elections, illegal immigrant votes were in fact quite high.


"We find that some noncitizens participate in U.S. elections, and that this participation has been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes, and congressional elections," wrote Jesse T. Richman, Gulshan A. Chattha, both of Old Dominion University, and David C. Earnest of George Mason University.


More specifically, they write, "Noncitizen votes likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress."


Specifically, the authors say that illegals may have cast as many as 2.8 million votes in 2008 and 2010. That's a lot of votes. And when you consider the population of illegal inhabitants has only grown since then, it's not unreasonable to suppose that their vote has, too.

You lose again, bitch.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
In other words, you are admitting you don't know and that you are wrong.
Illegals voted in California, which is what gave Hillary that million voter cushion. That is established fact, regardless of your inability to put the crack pipe down and read the facts.

https://yesimright.com/heres-exactly-how-illegal-immigrants-are-allowed-to-vote-in-california/https://yesimright.com/heres-exactly-how-illegal-immigrants-are-allowed-to-vote-in-california/


https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-is-right-millions-of-illegals-probably-did-vote-in-2016/
But, in fact, it's almost certain that illegals did vote — and in significant numbers. Whether it was three million or not is another question.


While states control the voter registration process, some states are so notoriously slipshod in their controls (California, Virginia and New York — all of which have political movements to legalize voting by noncitizens — come to mind) that it would be shocking if many illegals didn't vote. Remember, a low-ball estimate says there are at least 11 million to 12 million illegals in the U.S., but that's based on faulty Census data. More likely estimates put the number at 20 million to 30 million.


What's disappointing is that instead of at least seriously considering Trump's charge, many media reports merely parrot leftist talking points and anti-Trump rhetoric by pushing the idea that Republicans and others not of the progressive left who seek to limit voting to citizens only are racist, xenophobic nuts.


But there is evidence to back Trump's claims. A 2014 study in the online Electoral Studies Journal shows that in the 2008 and 2010 elections, illegal immigrant votes were in fact quite high.


"We find that some noncitizens participate in U.S. elections, and that this participation has been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes, and congressional elections," wrote Jesse T. Richman, Gulshan A. Chattha, both of Old Dominion University, and David C. Earnest of George Mason University.


More specifically, they write, "Noncitizen votes likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress."


Specifically, the authors say that illegals may have cast as many as 2.8 million votes in 2008 and 2010. That's a lot of votes. And when you consider the population of illegal inhabitants has only grown since then, it's not unreasonable to suppose that their vote has, too.

You lose again, bitch.
The Old Dominion research by Richman has been utterly destroyed by other researchers.

Academics pilloried Richman’s conclusions. Two hundred political scientists signed an open letter criticizing the study, saying it should “not be cited or used in any debate over fraudulent voting.” Harvard’s Stephen Ansolabehere, who administered the CCES, published his own peer-reviewed paper lambasting Richman’s work. Indeed, by the time Trump read Richman’s article onstage in 2016, The Washington Post had already appended a note to the op-ed linking to three rebuttals and a peer-reviewed study debunking the research.

The judge was harsher than Ansolabehere in her description of Richman’s testimony. In her opinion, Robinson unloaded a fusillade of dismissive adjectives, calling Richman’s conclusions “confusing, inconsistent and methodologically flawed,” and adding that they were “credibly dismantled” by Ansolabehere. She labeled elements of Richman’s testimony “disingenuous” and “misleading,” and stated that she gave his research “no weight” in her decision.

https://www.propublica.org/article/kris-kobach-voter-fraud-kansas-trial
 
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