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Late Titanic thread....one second after she hit the iceberg, what would you

Discussion in 'History' started by GordonGecko, Apr 18, 2012.

  1. Bo-4

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    Interesting, thanks trap. It's been a many years since i saw the movie, but i was under the impression that there there was some fog (at least in the movie).
     
  2. Bo-4

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    Thanks Friday...

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    The steersman took a wrong turn: Did the Titanic's steersman turn the ship toward the iceberg, dooming the ship? That's the claim made in 2010 by Louise Patten, who said the story was passed down from her grandfather, the most senior ship officer to survive the disaster. After the iceberg was spotted, the command was issued to turn "hard a starboard," but as the command was passed down the line, it was misinterpreted as meaning "make the ship turn right" rather than "push the tiller right to make the ship head left," Patten said. She said the error was quickly discovered, but not quickly enough to avert the collision. She also speculated that if the ship had stopped where it was hit, seawater would not have pushed into one interior compartment after another as it did, and the ship might not have sunk as quickly.
     
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  4. Friday13

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    Perhaps a misstatement? He was trying to beat the time of the Olympic, a sister ship. Titanic was more of a Rolls Royce.
     
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    Thanx for the info. Sounds like a reasonable theory.
     
  6. Friday13

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    True that there were many factors that caused the Titanic to sink. 100 years later we can only speculate.
     
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    That might be true. Ismay, the ship's titular owner, apparently wanted full speed and asked the captain to light all the boilers. At sea, of course, Ismay had no legal authority and the responsibility lay with the captain.

    There's a poem written by a newspaper reporter (he's famous, but I'm blanking on the name -- possibly Ben Hecht) that defines Ismay perfectly in my view.

    "The captain stood where the captain should
    For the law of the sea is grim

    But the owner led
    While the women fled
    And no law bothered him.

    To face the breath
    Of icy death on the sea at night

    Is a sailor's job, but to flee with the mob
    Is the owner's noble right."
     
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    Sorry to resurrect an ancient thread, but I found the poem I tried to get from memory. It WAS by Ben Hecht, and here it is in its entirety.

    Master and Man

    The Captain stood where a
    Captain should
    For the Law of the Sea is grim;
    The Owner romped while the ship was swamped
    And no law bothered him.
    The Captain stood where the Captain should
    When a Captain's ship goes down
    But the Owner led when the women fled,
    For an Owner must not drown.
    The Captain sank as a man of Rank,
    While his Owner turned away;
    The Captain's grave was his bridge and brave,
    He earned his seaman's pay.
    To hold your place in the ghastly face of Death on the Sea at Night
    Is a Seaman's job, but to flee with the mob
    Is an Owner's Noble Right.

    Ben Hecht, Chicago Journal
     

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