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Let's take a Poll, re: AntiFa.

Discussion in 'User Political Polls' started by LeilaniMP, Jul 5, 2019.

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Do you support AntiFa, and it's actions?

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  2. No

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  1. LeilaniMP

    LeilaniMP Empress

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    Go on the record and be honest....
     
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  2. reason10

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    Who would support those criminals, those animals?
     
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  3. marvin martian

    marvin martian Senator

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  5. Jen

    Jen meh

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    Unless a Leftist person or an entity (CNN, Democrats, MSNBC, etc) condemns ANTIFA , I will assume they support it.
     
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  6. The Thinker

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  7. LeilaniMP

    LeilaniMP Empress

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    The lack of condemnation (of AntiFa) from the left is very telling.
     
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  8. LeilaniMP

    LeilaniMP Empress

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    Cuomo is an a** sucking worm.
     
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  9. EatTheRich

    EatTheRich President

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    If you ignore my vote in this thread, my many posts condemning Antifa, the posts of many other leftists condemning Antifa, and the many condemnations by left-wing public figures and media outlets.
     
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  10. LeilaniMP

    LeilaniMP Empress

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    I had not seen your posts in regards to Antifa. Unlike some (too many, imo), PJ is not my life and I'm not here 24/7/365 reading through everything posted.

    I've only seen very tepid responses from people like Pelosi, et al.
     
  11. llovejim

    llovejim Current Champion

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    No, he did not say that, real clear politics is resorting to lying headlines when summarizing what somebody they do not like says, like Fox and Breitbart do all the time. The headline says one thing, but when you read it, and you can read above about a 4th grade level, you see what lying partisan assclowns they are...here is what Cuomo said, in context-

    CHRIS CUOMO, CNN HOST: Here's the closing argument. Two wrongs and what is right. It's been one year since Heather Heyer was killed for standing up to hate, and our thoughts still go to her family.

    We know what happened with racial tensions nationwide after that. And this weekend was built as round two, "unite the right", the sequel. Organizers planned to rally in Washington, D.C. this time.

    But the turn out of white supremacists was thankfully pathetic, which is why I didn't have to go there and cover it. Only a couple dozen showed up. Proof they lost membership after being exposed again last year as a bunch of hateful losers? No. They're still in force online, but they didn't have the guts to show up, and that's good.

    Counterprotesters did. There were good numbers of them. The vast majority were peaceful.

    But peppered in the crowd were members of Antifa, or anti-fascists. They covered their faces, confronted police and berated journalists and that was wrong.

    Now, you've been hearing it. There's a lot of about what-aboutism and spin going on. And it's kind of sickening to me. So, let's all agree on some common understandings. A protester uses their voice, song, slang, slurs, there's a huge range, but it is talk.

    When you use your hands in a violent way, you are a rioter. And unless you're justified in defending yourself and you hit someone, you're a thug, you're a criminal. You attack cops, you slap the media, you are in the wrong, period.

    But I argue to you tonight, all punches are not equal morally. In the eyes of the law, yes. But in the eyes of good and evil, here's the argument: if you're a punk that comes to start trouble in a mask and hurt people, you're not about any virtuous cause. You're just somebody who's going to be held to the standard of doing something wrong.

    But when someone comes to call out bigots and it gets hot, even physical, are they equally wrong as the bigot they are fighting? I argue, no. Fighting against hate matters.


    Now, how you fight matters too. There's no question about that. But drawing a moral equivalency between those espousing hate and those fighting it because they both resort to violence emboldens hate, legitimizes hateful belief and elevates what should be stamped out.
     
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  12. The Thinker

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    Joe Biden supports Antifa.

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/25/joe-biden-antifa/

    And can any rational person say that people who throw feces, bottles of urine, assault cops and people just for carrying an American flag are fighting hate?
     
  13. llovejim

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    No, the lying Daily Caller does say that in their headline but in the actual article even the Daily Caller does not say that. You need to learn to read better or something...

    tell me, have you ever seen any pep rally called by antifa where they just started beating up journalists, or anyone there, breaking windshields, fighting with the police? Isn't it true they only come out when the neo-nazis call for a public rally, so they can confront them? Neo-nazis go out of their way to demonstrate their racism, their bigotry, their anti-semitism, their love for nazi salutes and swastikas, and want to hold public rallies to spew that shit. Antifa, being a loosely knit bunch of punks and troublemakers, use that public gathering as an excuse to show how tough and violent they are, but other normal people also show up to peacefully protest the hate coming from the nazis. what fox and trump and the GOP tries to do is say everybody who shows up to ridicule and taunt hate filled nazis, are antifa!! and it is not even close...

    here is what Joe said, and it does not condone or support antifa thugs wearing masks being as equally out of line as the neo-nazis, even when they are not defending themselves or anybody else from the neo-nazi, white boy thugs.

    In a retelling of the events at a 2017 white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Va., Biden describes the white nationalists as having “crazed faces, illuminated by torches, veins bulging and baring the fangs of racism,” but describes the Antifa members who engaged violently with them as “a courageous group of Americans.” (no, he did not. that is a lie. he said that the young woman killed was among a group of people peacefully protesting the nazis, not she was part of antifa, which she was not. see how the daily caller lies?)

    “A violent clash ensued, and a brave young woman lost her life,” Biden says in the video. “And that’s when we heard the words of the president of the United States that stunned the world and shocked the conscience of this nation.”

    “He said there were quote some very fine people on both sides. Very fine people on both sides? With those words, the President of the United States assigned a moral equivalence between those spreading hate and those with the courage to stand against it.” (it wasn't just antifa who showed up to protest the nazis, that is why the daily caller is such a lying piece of shit. she was not antifa. the people in the crowd with her, were not. get it? the daily caller lied)

    People on both sides of the clash engaged in brutal violence that night. The young woman Biden refers to was Heather Heyer, who was killed when a neo-Nazi plowed into a group of protesters with his car. Antifa members showed up armed with mace, a battering ram and clubs, which they used in order to try to break through a line of white nationalists with riot shields lining the entrance to the rally. (true enough...but they were reacting to the racist, anti-semitic, nazi saluting, swastika wearing bullshit of the neo-nazis, all real americans should hate that shit. get it? how many people did an Antifa thug kill that night or the next day?)
     
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