Loser Thrown Out Of Restaurant For Harrassing Man Wearing MAGA Hat... Awesome!

[John T]

You could have said “the n word”. A gross word you used, even in quotes.

LMAO @ the dumbassery.

You are offended when the word is used in quotes but, not by the original quote.

Fake outrage much?

Ever wonder why normal thinking folks don't take you extremist seriously?

 

[EatTheRich]

The German economy was devastated by the Treaty of Versailles. The globalist Communist-run unions prevented all efforts to turn things around. The benefits they got helped only themselves and their Communist political agenda in the short-term while harming everyone else, and they still paled in comparison to the benefits workers gained after the National Socialist program was implemented.


Communist allied unions.

No one is more pro-union than I (and I'm well-aware of their historical Communist affiliations). Labor unions exist for the benefit of their members and have no obligation to advocate for any other party. Even so, when unions have a stranglehold on government and/or the economy, it's in no one's long-term best interest. We see essentially that situation in several US states today, where government employee union contracts are bankrupting the states at the expense of the economic and social welfare of everyone else, and of their own members in the long term. The backlash -- companies relocating to more financially stable locations and devastating the lives of workers and their families by doing so, passage of right-to-work (-for-slave-wages) laws that curtail union growth and harm negotiating positions, cuts to social services for all so benefits can be paid, etc. -- hurts all workers, union and non-union, public and private. The situation in Germany was desperate; mass unemployment, starvation, and so on. The unions fought not just for their members but for the internationalist Communist agenda and not for their folk. The NS government, unlike the corporatist governments here and now, acted responsibly and for the good of all regarding labor unions (and everything else).


Aligned with the ruling party isn't state-run. On-board with the state's goals for the benefit of all the German people isn't state-run. Negotiating and working with ownership and government for mutual benefit isn't actively fighting to lower wages. Workers never had is so good as in NS Germany.


Thank you for the link. I'll read it when I have time. The necessary relationship between the NS German government and business was addressed in the first article linked in my post #202.

Neither Communists nor National Socialists have the luxury of unswerving adherence to theoretical principles when attempting to implement far-reaching programs. NS, unlike Marxism in practice, has always been utilitarian in it's approach to economy. Also, we don't see private business, large or small, or private profit as evil or harmful to the folk.. The NS approach is to regulate private industry as needed and, in the limited cases where it's needed, to nationalize industries; this always for the good of the nation as a whole. We oppose unrestrained capitalism and all corporatism; we don't advocate state ownership or totalitarian control of industry. We advocate for the moralization of private property, private business, and private profit; not for their elimination.




Prisoners, many of whom were of the working-class, many of whom worked in the labor camps, starved and succumbed to disease by the hundreds of thousands towards the end of the war in Europe as a result of Allied bombing that prevented food and supplies from reaching the camps.
Millions of Axis and Allied soldiers, most of whom were working-class, died on the battlefields, of course. Many more German and British died in the bombings of civilian targets initiated by Churchill. Many, many more Germans -- more than died during the war -- died AFTER the war in Eisenhower's concentration camps and at the hands of occupying soldiers, mostly the Russians.
And the numbers are still lower than the number of innocents starved and slaughtered by Communist Russia (which Communists claim wasn't communist, even though it was, but was capitalist, even though it wasn't, and even though it began with Lenin and ran through Stalin and continued forward into our own lifetimes).

They didn't teach us about all this in school and it's not widely known but all of it is accurate and documented.

If everyone around here would stop calling everyone with whom they disagree "Nazis" and stop equating modern American Democrat policy and National Socialism with Marxist Socialism and Communism then the only actual "NAZI" and the only actual Communist on the board would stop taking so many threads off on tangents trying to correct the errors.

1. Communists led the resistance to the Treaty of Versailles.
2. “Apart from their original purpose, [the unions] must now learn to act deliberately as organizing centers of the working class in the broad interest of its complete emancipation. They must aid every social and political movement tending in that direction. Considering themselves as acting as the champions of the whole working class, they cannot fail to enlist the [unorganized] into their ranks. They must look carefully after the interests of the worst paid trades, such as agricultural laborers, rendered powerless by exceptional circumstances. They must convince the world at large that their efforts, far from being narrow and selfish, aim at the emancipation of the downtrodden millions.”-Karl Marx
3. The mere fact that you blame unions for bosses’ attacks on working people reveals your position.
4. Millions of workers whose only crime was being Jewish were gassed or subjected to “extermination through labor” by the Nazis.

 

[Deleted member 21794]

Certainly possible. Joining the Klan should be disqualifying for any position of public service.

Then the same should apply to other racist organizations like Black Lives Matter.

 

[Jen]

But.....but.... Maxine told them to do that to MAGA hat wearers........
Why wasn't it okay?

 

[EatTheRich]

Then the same should apply to other racist organizations like Black Lives Matter.

BLM isn’t a racist organization.

 

[EatTheRich]

But.....but.... Maxine told them to do that to MAGA hat wearers........
Why wasn't it okay?

Because people should be free to express their opinions without harassment.

 

[Nostra]

BLM isn’t a racist organization.

Nah.

BLM supporters assassinating 5 cops in Dallas during a BLM rally had nothing to do with race.

 

[EatTheRich]

Nah.

BLM supporters assassinating 5 cops in Dallas during a BLM rally had nothing to do with race.

1. “Cops” is not a race. The police killed were multiple races.
2. BLM has nothing to do with planning or encouraging the attack. The perpetrator was a supporter? So are a majority of Americans of every race.

 

[Deleted member 21794]

Because people should be free to express their opinions without harassment.

Tell that to Antifa.

 

[EatTheRich]

Tell that to Antifa.

I am

 

[Deleted member 21794]

1. “Cops” is not a race. The police killed were multiple races.
2. BLM has nothing to do with planning or encouraging the attack. The perpetrator was a supporter? So are a majority of Americans of every race.

Yes because chanting for dead cops in no way encourages violence against cops.

 

[Emily]

1. Communists led the resistance to the Treaty of Versailles.

Documentation?
And what's the relevance to any point in the post to which this replied?

2. “Apart from their original purpose, [the unions] must now learn to act deliberately as organizing centers of the working class in the broad interest of its complete emancipation. They must aid every social and political movement tending in that direction. Considering themselves as acting as the champions of the whole working class, they cannot fail to enlist the [unorganized] into their ranks. They must look carefully after the interests of the worst paid trades, such as agricultural laborers, rendered powerless by exceptional circumstances. They must convince the world at large that their efforts, far from being narrow and selfish, aim at the emancipation of the downtrodden millions.”-Karl Marx

Okay. And what's the relevance to any point in the post to which this replied? That the struggle of the working class is inherently internationalist? When your own country's economy is in shambles and your own people are suffering, you don't stand in the way of helping them. You can't feed other if you're starving to death. You don't send money to the poor around the globe when your own family is starving.

3. The mere fact that you blame unions for bosses’ attacks on working people reveals your position.

I didn't blame unions for bosses attacks on working people. Not at all. I said that when the union doesn't consider the whole situation extant and when gains for its members create a detriment for all other working people and the economy as a whole, it's in no one's long-term best interests and creates a backlash against organized labor, and that we're seeing that situation in America right now re: government employee unions.

4. Millions of workers whose only crime was being Jewish were gassed or subjected to “extermination through labor” by the Nazis.

Lies.

 

[Nostra]

1. “Cops” is not a race. The police killed were multiple races.
2. BLM has nothing to do with planning or encouraging the attack. The perpetrator was a supporter? So are a majority of Americans of every race.

The BLM assassin set out to kill white cops.

 

[EatTheRich]

Yes because chanting for dead cops in no way encourages violence against cops.

Irrelevant since BLM never did that.

 

[EatTheRich]

The BLM assassin set out to kill white cops.

Link?

 

[EatTheRich]

Documentation?
And what's the relevance to any point in the post to which this replied?


Okay. And what's the relevance to any point in the post to which this replied? That the struggle of the working class is inherently internationalist? When your own country's economy is in shambles and your own people are suffering, you don't stand in the way of helping them. You can't feed other if you're starving to death. You don't send money to the poor around the globe when your own family is starving.


I didn't blame unions for bosses attacks on working people. Not at all. I said that when the union doesn't consider the whole situation extant and when gains for its members create a detriment for all other working people and the economy as a whole, it's in no one's long-term best interests and creates a backlash against organized labor, and that we're seeing that situation in America right now re: government employee unions.


Lies.

1. https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1924/ffyci-2/25b.htm

Relevant because you blamed Marxist “internationalism” for the nationalist exploitation of Germany by France etc.
2. Relevant to the question of unions’ role in society. Americans and British are not nationally oppressed.
3. The narrow aims of unions (refusing to throw themselves into the fight against racism for example) have certainly harmed them in the past. But the bosses have needed no reason to hate unions other than their existence.
4. Please

 

[Deleted member 21794]

Irrelevant since BLM never did that.

Yes they did. I've already shown you the facts on video.

 

[Alinvegas]

Good. Wear a MAGA hat like a koolaid drinking worshipper, get called an idiot. That works.

Is your Vagina hat at the cleaners?

 

[now_what]

Is your Vagina hat at the cleaners?

We have our p**** hats and you have yours.

 

[Emily]

1. https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1924/ffyci-2/25b.htm

Thanks.

Relevant because you blamed Marxist “internationalism” for the nationalist exploitation of Germany by France etc.

I really didn't.

2. Relevant to the question of unions’ role in society.

Alright. We disagree on what the broader role of unions ought to be. We agree on their importance to their members directly.

Americans and British are not nationally oppressed.

What do you mean?

But the bosses have needed no reason to hate unions other than their existence.

True. Giving the politicians a justification in the minds of voters for crippling them hurts all workers and frightens non-unionized workers from organizing.

4. Please

Perpetuating belief in what's been conclusively proven false in one area harms the credibility of one's arguments in other areas.