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Meritocracy is racist!

Barbella

Senator
Yep. Being rewarded for working hard is a tool of Whites to oppress Blacks. Why didn't I think of that?

"A math professor at Brooklyn College wrote an academic paper contending that meritocracy in math class holds back racial minorities and is a tool of “whiteness,” Campus Reform reported on Monday.

Professor Laurie Rubel, a former high school teacher, wrote the article in the Journal of Urban Mathematics Education. She reportedly contends that meritocracy is oftentimes associated with hard work, but it ignores “systematic barriers” that prevent the opportunity of success."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/09/professor-claims-meritocracy-in-math-class-is-tool-whiteness-report.html
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Had to use Info due to not having a OMG rating.................

 

Arkady

President
Yep. Being rewarded for working hard is a tool of Whites to oppress Blacks. Why didn't I think of that?

"A math professor at Brooklyn College wrote an academic paper contending that meritocracy in math class holds back racial minorities and is a tool of “whiteness,” Campus Reform reported on Monday.

Professor Laurie Rubel, a former high school teacher, wrote the article in the Journal of Urban Mathematics Education. She reportedly contends that meritocracy is oftentimes associated with hard work, but it ignores “systematic barriers” that prevent the opportunity of success."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/09/professor-claims-meritocracy-in-math-class-is-tool-whiteness-report.html
Did you read the paper?
 
Yep. Being rewarded for working hard is a tool of Whites to oppress Blacks. Why didn't I think of that?

"A math professor at Brooklyn College wrote an academic paper contending that meritocracy in math class holds back racial minorities and is a tool of “whiteness,” Campus Reform reported on Monday.

Professor Laurie Rubel, a former high school teacher, wrote the article in the Journal of Urban Mathematics Education. She reportedly contends that meritocracy is oftentimes associated with hard work, but it ignores “systematic barriers” that prevent the opportunity of success."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/09/professor-claims-meritocracy-in-math-class-is-tool-whiteness-report.html
What holds back racial minorities or ANYBODY for that matter is stupidness/lazyness..... not whiteness
 

Jen

Senator
Yep. Being rewarded for working hard is a tool of Whites to oppress Blacks. Why didn't I think of that?

"A math professor at Brooklyn College wrote an academic paper contending that meritocracy in math class holds back racial minorities and is a tool of “whiteness,” Campus Reform reported on Monday.

Professor Laurie Rubel, a former high school teacher, wrote the article in the Journal of Urban Mathematics Education. She reportedly contends that meritocracy is oftentimes associated with hard work, but it ignores “systematic barriers” that prevent the opportunity of success."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/09/professor-claims-meritocracy-in-math-class-is-tool-whiteness-report.html
The Left hates achievers. Period. In the Socialism / Communism they desire for us, there must be no achievers. There cannot be achievers. The Left has lowered achievement to participation awards. And doing the same to people of dark-colored skin is fine to Lefty. They never intended to help those people they claimed to want to help.
 

EatTheRich

President
Yep. Being rewarded for working hard is a tool of Whites to oppress Blacks. Why didn't I think of that?

"A math professor at Brooklyn College wrote an academic paper contending that meritocracy in math class holds back racial minorities and is a tool of “whiteness,” Campus Reform reported on Monday.

Professor Laurie Rubel, a former high school teacher, wrote the article in the Journal of Urban Mathematics Education. She reportedly contends that meritocracy is oftentimes associated with hard work, but it ignores “systematic barriers” that prevent the opportunity of success."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/09/professor-claims-meritocracy-in-math-class-is-tool-whiteness-report.html
If students were rewarded according to how hard they work, Black students, who verifiably spend more time studying than white students, would be rewarded more. If they were rewarded according to intelligence, there would be no discernible racial disparities.

Obviously the so-called meritocracy rewards something else.
 
If students were rewarded according to how hard they work, Black students, who verifiably spend more time studying than white students, would be rewarded more. If they were rewarded according to intelligence, there would be no discernible racial disparities.

Obviously the so-called meritocracy rewards something else.
Do you have some documented studies to back up your claims? I think they're absurd.
 
If students were rewarded according to how hard they work, Black students, who verifiably spend more time studying than white students, would be rewarded more. If they were rewarded according to intelligence, there would be no discernible racial disparities.

Obviously the so-called meritocracy rewards something else.
Obviously total BS.

You can read and study all day long. If you don't comprehend what you read and study you have learned nothing.

Nobody should EVER pass a grade if they can't MAKE THE GRADE.

You see LEARNING is the key to KNOWLEGE not .........TRYING!
 

connieb

Senator
If students were rewarded according to how hard they work, Black students, who verifiably spend more time studying than white students, would be rewarded more. If they were rewarded according to intelligence, there would be no discernible racial disparities.

Obviously the so-called meritocracy rewards something else.
If you don't have what it takes you can spend all sorts of time studying and still not do well. That doesn't mean that those who are better than you - shouldn't be able to reap all the rewards of their superiority. Particularly when their superiority is enhanced by making good responsible choices like being responsible involved parents who are high achievers themselves and pass on those good genetics to their kids. Some people are just dumber than others. Its certainly NOT something that is divisible by race. There are plenty very smart black people and plenty very smart white people, and lots of idiots on both sides. But, innate intelligence is often influenced by decisions your parents made, and just good genetics. Smart people, tend to have smart children. Those at the lower end of the intelligence spectrum with hard work will STILL do better than their compatriots, but its ridiculous to act like if you have been exposed to lead poisoning, have parents that drink or use drugs, particularly in utero and have mental health issues that you can have the same results or deserve the same outcomes just because you do work hard.

Meritocracy is not about merely effort, it is about one's overall ability to harness all their gifts and surpass others. For many - putting in hard work is enough to be able to harness all those gifts. For plenty others despite their hard work - they still can't accomplish all that much because they lack OTHER things that can make them successful like an ability to read people, an ability to adapt, or just naked intelligence. Conversely I know plenty of super intelligent people who can not function in day to day life because with their superior intellect, came a host of OTHER problems like mental health issues, anxiety, etc.

Meritocracy is about the best - being able to reap the rewards of being the best. That means the smartest who have figured out how to harness their intellect and use it to their advantage, will have more than the dumbest and will do better and have more recognition, despite effort put out by the dumbest. That again, does not mean that those who are dumber will necessarily suffer, but each of us is limited by our innate abilities and our OWN ability to conquer our deficiencies.

My brother - who by all actual objective measures of intelligence, is actually not as smart as me, is more financially successful than I am. Not because I don't work as hard. Not because I didn't do as well in school or achieve the same or better grades in school and not because we had different families, different educational opportunities or anything else. He does better than me because he much more aggressive, much more of a risk taker, and an MUCH better salesperson. That is meritocracy. For whatever reason he has what it takes - to really really make it. Even though by most measures I too am very successful he is more successful. I certainly don't begrudge the fact that he was able to capitalize on his talents more so than me and he has other talents other than mine, and turn that into amazing economic success.

Meritocracy. It isn't only hard work, and it isn't only intelligence, but it is the sum total of all of ones abilities, harness and used in such a way to make one person superior to another.
 
Yep. Being rewarded for working hard is a tool of Whites to oppress Blacks. Why didn't I think of that?

"A math professor at Brooklyn College wrote an academic paper contending that meritocracy in math class holds back racial minorities and is a tool of “whiteness,” Campus Reform reported on Monday.

Professor Laurie Rubel, a former high school teacher, wrote the article in the Journal of Urban Mathematics Education. She reportedly contends that meritocracy is oftentimes associated with hard work, but it ignores “systematic barriers” that prevent the opportunity of success."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/09/professor-claims-meritocracy-in-math-class-is-tool-whiteness-report.html
The Bell Curve Is Not About Sweat

"Working hard" is about quantity, not quality. Those with ability can get the job done a lot more easily, without being obsessed into ulcers and a heart attack. Sacrifice and workoholism have no merit; they are merely brownnosing. A bootlicker ruins his taste buds.
 
If you don't have what it takes you can spend all sorts of time studying and still not do well. That doesn't mean that those who are better than you - shouldn't be able to reap all the rewards of their superiority. Particularly when their superiority is enhanced by making good responsible choices like being responsible involved parents who are high achievers themselves and pass on those good genetics to their kids. Some people are just dumber than others. Its certainly NOT something that is divisible by race. There are plenty very smart black people and plenty very smart white people, and lots of idiots on both sides. But, innate intelligence is often influenced by decisions your parents made, and just good genetics. Smart people, tend to have smart children. Those at the lower end of the intelligence spectrum with hard work will STILL do better than their compatriots, but its ridiculous to act like if you have been exposed to lead poisoning, have parents that drink or use drugs, particularly in utero and have mental health issues that you can have the same results or deserve the same outcomes just because you do work hard.

Meritocracy is not about merely effort, it is about one's overall ability to harness all their gifts and surpass others. For many - putting in hard work is enough to be able to harness all those gifts. For plenty others despite their hard work - they still can't accomplish all that much because they lack OTHER things that can make them successful like an ability to read people, an ability to adapt, or just naked intelligence. Conversely I know plenty of super intelligent people who can not function in day to day life because with their superior intellect, came a host of OTHER problems like mental health issues, anxiety, etc.

Meritocracy is about the best - being able to reap the rewards of being the best. That means the smartest who have figured out how to harness their intellect and use it to their advantage, will have more than the dumbest and will do better and have more recognition, despite effort put out by the dumbest. That again, does not mean that those who are dumber will necessarily suffer, but each of us is limited by our innate abilities and our OWN ability to conquer our deficiencies.

My brother - who by all actual objective measures of intelligence, is actually not as smart as me, is more financially successful than I am. Not because I don't work as hard. Not because I didn't do as well in school or achieve the same or better grades in school and not because we had different families, different educational opportunities or anything else. He does better than me because he much more aggressive, much more of a risk taker, and an MUCH better salesperson. That is meritocracy. For whatever reason he has what it takes - to really really make it. Even though by most measures I too am very successful he is more successful. I certainly don't begrudge the fact that he was able to capitalize on his talents more so than me and he has other talents other than mine, and turn that into amazing economic success.

Meritocracy. It isn't only hard work, and it isn't only intelligence, but it is the sum total of all of ones abilities, harness and used in such a way to make one person superior to another.
Nerdiness Is a Symptom, Not a Character Trait

Smartkids are treated like freaks and losers. Their cowardice in not confronting those in charge of such an unmotivating school environment leads to escapism and causes their emotional problems. Meek geeks allow their bosses to get rich and are afraid to see the connection. Fatcats love mice.
 

EatTheRich

President
Do you have some documented studies to back up your claims? I think they're absurd.
http://racism.org/index.php/articles/basic-needs/education/49-education-other/1166-educate01-
According to the National Center
Education Statistics, 43% of black fourth-graders do one hour or more of homework per night, as do 45% of whites and 47% of Hispanics. Although Asian fourth-graders are more likely than any other group to study one or more hours per night (56% do so), the differences between whites, blacks and Hispanics are too small to explain performance differences, and certainly contradict the notion that blacks or Latinos devalue education relative to whites.

In fact, black and Hispanic fourth-graders are both more likely than whites that age to do more than one hour of homework, with 18% of Hispanics, 17% of blacks, but only 15% of whites putting in this amount of study time daily.

Asked for the idea that there is no racial distribution of intelligence, it follows directly from the widely accepted consensus that race has no biological validity.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/blog/about-thinking/201312/four-simple-reasons-smart-people-shouldnt-believe-in-races?amp
 

NinaS

Senator
Supporting Member
If you don't have what it takes you can spend all sorts of time studying and still not do well. That doesn't mean that those who are better than you - shouldn't be able to reap all the rewards of their superiority. Particularly when their superiority is enhanced by making good responsible choices like being responsible involved parents who are high achievers themselves and pass on those good genetics to their kids. Some people are just dumber than others. Its certainly NOT something that is divisible by race. There are plenty very smart black people and plenty very smart white people, and lots of idiots on both sides. But, innate intelligence is often influenced by decisions your parents made, and just good genetics. Smart people, tend to have smart children. Those at the lower end of the intelligence spectrum with hard work will STILL do better than their compatriots, but its ridiculous to act like if you have been exposed to lead poisoning, have parents that drink or use drugs, particularly in utero and have mental health issues that you can have the same results or deserve the same outcomes just because you do work hard.

Meritocracy is not about merely effort, it is about one's overall ability to harness all their gifts and surpass others. For many - putting in hard work is enough to be able to harness all those gifts. For plenty others despite their hard work - they still can't accomplish all that much because they lack OTHER things that can make them successful like an ability to read people, an ability to adapt, or just naked intelligence. Conversely I know plenty of super intelligent people who can not function in day to day life because with their superior intellect, came a host of OTHER problems like mental health issues, anxiety, etc.

Meritocracy is about the best - being able to reap the rewards of being the best. That means the smartest who have figured out how to harness their intellect and use it to their advantage, will have more than the dumbest and will do better and have more recognition, despite effort put out by the dumbest. That again, does not mean that those who are dumber will necessarily suffer, but each of us is limited by our innate abilities and our OWN ability to conquer our deficiencies.

My brother - who by all actual objective measures of intelligence, is actually not as smart as me, is more financially successful than I am. Not because I don't work as hard. Not because I didn't do as well in school or achieve the same or better grades in school and not because we had different families, different educational opportunities or anything else. He does better than me because he much more aggressive, much more of a risk taker, and an MUCH better salesperson. That is meritocracy. For whatever reason he has what it takes - to really really make it. Even though by most measures I too am very successful he is more successful. I certainly don't begrudge the fact that he was able to capitalize on his talents more so than me and he has other talents other than mine, and turn that into amazing economic success.

Meritocracy. It isn't only hard work, and it isn't only intelligence, but it is the sum total of all of ones abilities, harness and used in such a way to make one person superior to another.
Stable Genius' no doubt.
 

EatTheRich

President
Some people are just dumber than others. Its certainly NOT something that is divisible by race. There are plenty very smart black people and plenty very smart white people, and lots of idiots on both sides.
That's just the point. If intelligence isn't distributed racially, but outcomes are distributed racially, it suggests that the distribution of outcomes is fundamentally racist.

But, innate intelligence is often influenced by decisions your parents made, and just good genetics. Smart people, tend to have smart children. Those at the lower end of the intelligence spectrum with hard work will STILL do better than their compatriots, but its ridiculous to act like if you have been exposed to lead poisoning, have parents that drink or use drugs, particularly in utero and have mental health issues that you can have the same results or deserve the same outcomes just because you do work hard.
And the fact that Black children are more likely to be exposed to lead poisoning or have parents with mental health issues is a reflection of racial inequality in society.
Whites are more likely to use drugs (but their children still come out ahead on average) ... but I would wager that drugs use by Black parents is more likely to have deleterious consequences for their children ... again because of the racial environment in which the effects play out.
 
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