Two of the cops were black...
Milwaukee man suffers acid burns to his face in alleged racist attack
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So you and Obama talked about it? Is that how you know what he enjoyed? Nah...cuz you just make this shit up.
He spoke of racism within police departments. Did he say cops were racists? No. You can twist this all you like. It won't fly.
When he spoke at the funerals of the children of Sandy Hook, did he look like he enjoyed it? You'd be a liar if you said yes.
Mr. Friscus
Governor
*Facepalm*
If you have to compare an American politician to Hitler, you've lost the argument. That goes for both sides.
I love how on another thread you're lecturing people on how they've never talked to Obama, so how can they possibly know anything, but yet you claim to know what Trump's base thinks.
Your cognitive dissonance is amazing.
EatTheRich
President
If the politician is promoting race hatred, in that respect the comparison is entirely apt.
Mr. Friscus
Governor
The problem is, "race hatred" is quite the loaded, subjective term. You have to infer and connect dots on intention, and given your clear agenda, you'll find it even if it might not be there.
Hitler did not. He directly condemned the Jews. Trump has done no such thing.
Poof.. comparison gone.
marvin martian
Emperor
What does that have to do with the fact that you support lynchings, at least so long as it's a Democrat president ordering them?
Also, law enforcement doesn't wait for people to "turn themselves in". Nice try, though.
Is that how you'd fight a war? Issue subpoenas to the enemy combatants?
Drumcollie
* See DC's list of Kook posters*
How is a white on white crime racist?https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/milwaukee-man-suffers-acid-burns-his-face-alleged-racist-attack-n1075651
Nov. 2, 2019, 5:49 PM EDT / Updated Nov. 3, 2019, 12:55 PM EST
By Nicole Acevedo
A Peruvian immigrant living in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, suffered acid burns to his face in an alleged racist attack, according to police, the victim's sister and NBC affiliate WTMJ in Milwaukee
"An unknown suspect got into a verbal altercation with the 42-year-old male victim when the argument escalated and the suspect threw acid on the victim causing 2nd degree burns," Milwaukee police said in a statement Saturday.
Police are searching for a white male suspect who was last seen carrying a black satchel and a silver aluminum container filled with battery acid, the statement said.
WTMJ reported that the victim and witnesses claim the suspect shouted "go back to your country," as he threw the acid.
A video of a Milwaukee man allegedly explaining to his son what happened to him and why he has burns.Obtained by family member
The alleged incident happened Friday at around 8:25 p.m. The sister of the Peruvian man told NBC News in a Facebook message that the argument occurred after he was approached by a white man in his 60s.
She confirmed to NBC News that her brother said the man who allegedly threw the acid said, "Go back to your country."
The sister gave NBC permission to use a photo of her brother showing his burn injuries, but she asked that her and his name be withheld. She said that since the suspect has not been caught, her brother fears for his safety,
1. There is a parallel between the rhetoric used to sway the population of Germany and that used by Trump. If you ignore it you've lost the argument.
2. It is one thing to pretend to know what an individual is motivated by when you haven't a clue. It is another to observe the reaction to the hyperbolic rhetoric to see what works in manipulating a crowd.
What evidence is there to support Marvin's post? When did Obama ever act like a sociopath?
Obama was a sociopath who enjoyed rubbing people's faces in their own grief. Particularly white people.
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Mr. Friscus
Governor
Good luck in trying to keep up a comparison of someone who murdered 6 million Jews to someone who just happens to be non-politically correct.
"Manipulating a crowd". Did Obama "manipulate" his crowds during his campaign speeches? Or is such negative connotation only reserved for Trump..
There have been outbreaks of rare radical behavior while both Obama and Trump have been president. I don't hold either directly accountable. Neither directly called for the violence. Sure, you can connect dot A to F... he wasn't 100% nice to group A, so that means he hates them and blood is on his hands, etc. The truth is, the deranged individuals made the choice to shoot up a school, kill police officers, assault people with MAGA hats with bike locks, etc. They had many more issues than politics.
I know life is simpler under Team A vs. Team B on everything, but it's ridiculous to hold presidents accountable for every single crime that happens in the country under them, and even more ridiculous to decide to hold that standard on only one of the two.
I'm not having a discussion with Marvin, I honestly don't have time to reply to everyone.
marvin martian
Emperor
Obama lynched two American citizens, started two wars, and enabled the creation of ISIS. That's sociopathic behavior. Just because you support it doesn't make it any less sick.
Started two wars? Which wars would those be? We supported Nato when they intervened in the civil war in Libya. We also sent help when Iraq was invaded by ISIS...but I'm not aware of any wars started by Obama.
ISIS started out as Al Qaeda in Iraq, which was essentially created when Bush disbanded the Iraqi army. It became ISI (Islamic State In Iraq) after Abu Musam Al-Zarqawi was killed and they'd merged with another group in 2006. It became ISIL and then ISIS under Al-Baghdadi in 2014. The leadership was largely Iraqi generals from Saddam's army.
How you can twist history into Obama creating ISIS is something you'll have to explain.
https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/timeline-the-rise-spread-and-fall-the-islamic-state
I didn't accuse Trump of killing anyone....simply using the same techniques to gain support from a mob. Obama did not designate a group as the enemy, much as Trump has.
When Trump loudly claimed immigrants as the enemy we had a mass shooting at a synagogue known for aiding immigrants. When Trump stated that El Paso was a violent and dangerous place because of the invasion of immigrants we had a mass shooting by a guy who drove across the state to kill Latinos in a Walmart.
I see a direct link between Trump's rhetoric and the violence against people who appear to be Hispanic. That isn't the same as not being 100% nice to anyone....Trump has framed the conversation in such a way as to encourage the wackier folks among us to think they'd be heroes for killing a Mexican. Also not the same as trying to blame the president for every crime....
Mr. Friscus
Governor
Okay, let's play six degrees of Kevin Bacon. If you're going to use that logic, then let's also agree that Barack Obama's divisive rhetoric caused the killing of police officers for starters. Here's the sequence:
Anti-Cop Instance #1:
Obama villainizing Cambridge Police as "Acting Stupidly" on the base of race.
Shortly after his election, black Harvard professor Louis Gates — a friend of Obama's — couldn't open his front door upon returning home from a trip. Gates asked his driver for assistance. A neighbor, observing two people trying to force open Gates' front door, called 911. The Cambridge, Massachusetts, cops responded, and requested that Gates, now inside the house, step outside and prove he lived there. Rather than cooperate, Gates made flippant comments to the cops, escalating the matter. Obama later said, "The Cambridge police acted stupidly." No, they hadn't.
Anti-Cop Instance #2:
Before any investigation at Ferguson was complete, Obama condemned police as "systematically racist", promoting the "Hands up Don't Shoot" narrative, which was by grand jury proven to be a lie, at the United Nations.
Michael Brown, an unarmed black man, was killed by a police officer. A friend and witness claimed that Brown held his hands up and pleaded with the cop, "Don't shoot." A grand jury later found the assertion a lie and completely exonerated the officer. But before the investigation was complete, Obama invoked Ferguson during a United Nations address as an example of the systemic racism blacks allegedly face in our criminal justice system, even though the narrative was proven to be a lie.
Anti-Cop Instance #3:
Obama's AG denounces the entire criminal justice system as racist despite proof that race had nothing to do with it.
Obama's Attorney General Eric Holder claimed that due to "pernicious" racism, the "criminal justice system ... treats groups of people differently and punishes them unequally." But the U.S. Sentencing Commission concluded that the longer sentences result from "legitimate factors." The typical black defendant has a longer criminal record than does a white defendant, and during sentencing, judges often consider defendants' criminal records.
Anti-Cop Instance #4:
Obama blames specific tragic shootings as broad racism by police.
President Obama, commenting on the 2016 police shootings of unarmed blacks, said: "These are not isolated incidents. They are symptomatic of a broader set of racial disparities that exist in our criminal justice system." But recent studies, including one done by a black Harvard economist, show the opposite. Cops, the studies found, are more hesitant to use deadly force on a black suspect than a white one.
So over and over, we have Obama and his henchmen villainizing and condemning police officers as horrible things.
"Rallying up the base".. right?
RESULT:
In 2014, two NYPD officers were killed — literally executed — while sitting in their squad cars.
In 2016, five Dallas cops and three Baton Rouge, Louisiana, cops were also killed. All three suspects in these cop killings were black men, motivated, according to their own social media postings, by Black Lives Matter's claim of anti-black systemic racism in the criminal justice system.
In 2016, five Dallas cops and three Baton Rouge, Louisiana, cops were also killed. All three suspects in these cop killings were black men, motivated, according to their own social media postings, by Black Lives Matter's claim of anti-black systemic racism in the criminal justice system.
Uh oh.
Obama actively slandered all police institutions, and thus officers, as racist against blacks. Then, black people who made their black lives matter political intentions clear, murdered police officers.
Will you connect the dots there? Or, is that suddenly "coincidence"? Or "lone wolves"?
https://www.thespectrum.com/story/opinion/2018/11/04/larry-elder-obama-hateful-rhetoric-trump/1872109002/
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I was always against Barack Obama for that reason.
Ok, first...you do not deny Trump's rhetoric. Second, lets look at the accuracy of some of these examples you cite.
1. Gates went into his house to get ID, followed by the police officer, who was not invited into the house and didn't ask to be. Upon seeing the ID the officer was walking out of the house and Gates was angry about how intrusive the officer had been. When Gates followed the cop outside he was arrested for disturbing the peace. The officer had no complainant. Gates was on his own front porch. Really? Disturbing the peace of his own property? Now, after Obama said the Cambridge police acted stupidly, were any Cambridge police subject to violence as a result? Nope.
2. What UN speech are you talking about? Michael Brown was killed in 2014. When did Obama speak at the UN before the investigation was complete. I can find nothing on this. Clearly you accepted your source as accurate...but it isn't looking like it to me.
3. Holder spoke of the criminal justice system. Somehow that was twisted, by you and your source as anti-cop, as if cops are the whole system. The fact is that if a white guy has a few grams of coke he will get less of a jail sentence than a black man with the same weight of crack.
4. There had been a number of black men killed under questionable circumstances. You and your source seems to be saying a comment by Obama in 2016 was the reason for police being targeted in 2014....
The guy who did this needs to be punished severely, to send a message to any other monster thinking of doing something like this.
Are you saying he threw the acid on himself?
Mr. Friscus
Governor
I'm partaking in an irrational assumption to test your consistency.
We know there was an escalation. It's safe to say you'll claim it was 100% the police's fault despite not being there, I'll say we don't know either way. The story that police were merely checking that it was indeed his house is rather plausible, given that people reported something, and then who knows how he reacted.
Meanwhile, I see you shifting goal posts and suddenly requiring that any murder of an officer has to happen to specifically Cambridge police. Sadly you don't hold that for your own arguments.
The point is, an incident happened where an escalation happened between a black man and police officer. As per usual, before the investigation was over, Obama made irresponsible claims without knowing all the facts, just as he did with Ferguson.
Some people want to wait and know everything before they make bold claim, others get swept up in the emotion. Obama was very emotional when it came to these types of issues.
The speech was Sept 24th, 2014.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2014/09/24/obama-united-nations-ferguson-general-assembly/16148309/
Investigation not even over, but yes, we Americans have a police force that is racist.
Obama's words are far more broad and bold towards a group than any of Trump's. Trump said some illegal immigrants, despite breaking the law, were good people. Obama didn't mention that any cops weren't racist.
Aren't police officers the manifestation of the criminal justice system to the common person? They are the ground level enforcement. If you call the criminal justice system racist, you're smearing the entire unit. Holder had a chance to be detailed, he wasn't.
Much data doesn't support that at all in some realms of the justice system. I won't say all because nobody knows all. However, different parts of the justice system are favorable to different people. Men are routinely treated a more severe standard by judges when compared to women, and there's no "systematic" mythical inference required, it's done in broad daylight... and society still doesn't care. But then again, men aren't a victim class, so...
There are bad shootings of every color. There have been a few bad shootings that I think were racially motivated. It's tragic. From what I've seen the bad ones have been given justice, rightfully so.
The problem becomes when media and leftists try to represent that these insanely ultra-rare occurrences happen around ever corner across the country, calling for fear and panic in the black community, and blaming Trump for it. It's entirely irrational. Not only is it pandering and disrespectful to prey on the emotions of a community, but statistically it's an outright false premise. Thankfully, these instances are rare. By any definition of the word, they are extremely rare. That's not in dispute.
Yet... the media narrative continues. The leftist race parade marches on...
So, multiple instances of anti-cop rhetoric that would get the black lives matter Obama "base" riled up... and then murders of police officers shortly after, saying they were politically motivated and part of black lives matter.
That's a LOT more smoke than anything you "got" on Trump.
Ready to condemn Mr. Obama for those deaths?
marvin martian
Emperor
Almost as crazy as putting a noose around your own neck and blaming it on Trump supporters, huh? What lunatic would ever do a thing like that?Are you saying he threw the acid on himself?
