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New study says Yes Russia's attack on the US did help Trump win.

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Deleted member 21794

Guest
How much did AQ spend on the 9/11 attack ? Are you going to claim the effectiveness of that attack compared to what we were spending on anti terrorist measures were not just as if not much, much, more lopsided ?

The fact is that vulnerability among Republicans preconditioned to by right wing media propaganda made the success of their attack much easier. After all the right wing media has spent billions over the years to turn you into the very kinds of chumps and suckers that would fall for Russian propaganda.
Your subject change makes it clear you know you've lost.

Not only that, your second paragraph is a joke. Republicans were already voting for Trump. DUH.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
He didn't know the extent of the attack Trump aided. He tried to warn you Trumpies not to listen to their lies but you would have none of that. Putin had your ears and his racism and anti Americanism was the music you wanted to dance to.
It would have really boosted law enforcement if Trump and his toadies told law enforcement about some of the 140+\- Kremlin/Team Trump contacts. Of course, Team Trump concealed them, and then lied about them after the fact.
 

Constitutional Sheepdog

][][][%er!!!!!!!
Collapsed. Called a large percentage of voters deplorable and beyond redemption. Failed to campaign in rust belt states- Michigan, in particular. That's just off the top of my head.
You forgot she lied about a video
STEELE DOSSIER COLLUSION WITH A FOREIGN OPERATIVE
FBI cover up of her crimes
Pay for play
anti second amendment
 

Spamature

President
Your subject change makes it clear you know you've lost.

Not only that, your second paragraph is a joke. Republicans were already voting for Trump. DUH.

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I didn't change the subject. I just gave you counter example that you could not refute.

If it is a joke then explain how. Are you going to say the right wing media did not have you chumps and suckers believe far fetched lies for years ?

Do I need to list all of the crazy shite you guys believed in just the years before the election ?


They had already driven you to the point where you were vulnerable to Russian propaganda because you had already accepted so many lies from the right wing media's propaganda.
 

Spamature

President
It would have really boosted law enforcement if Trump and his toadies told law enforcement about some of the 140+\- Kremlin/Team Trump contacts. Of course, Team Trump concealed them, and then lied about them after the fact.
But their being traitorous liars is Obama's fault.

Deplorables.... sigh....
 
Of course the GOP knows this and it is assuredly the reason they have tirelessly worked to block any efforts to protect America and prevent future Russian attacks on our electoral system.
They are traitors betraying our country right before our eyes.



Discussion and conclusions

Here we have (a) examined the timing of the IRA Twitter activity, which suggests a strategic release in parallel with significant political events before the 2016 election and (b) used vector autoregression (VAR) to test if the success of IRA activity on Twitter predicted changes in the 2016 election opinion polls. On a weekly time scale, we find that multiple time series of IRA tweet success robustly predicted increasing opinion polls for one candidate, but not the other. The opinion polls do not predict future success of the IRA tweets. The findings proved robust to many different checks.


The result, a one percent poll increase for the Republican candidate for every 25,000 weekly re-tweets of IRA messages, raises two questions about the effect: one regarding the magnitude and one regarding its asymmetry.


Here we have tested prediction, not causality. It seems unlikely that 25,000 re-tweets could influence one percent of the electorate in isolation (Guess, et al., 2019; Allcott, et al., 2019), although this might be more plausible than presumed at first glance, given that only about four percent of viewed tweets result in re-retweets (Lee, et al., 2015), such that 25,000 re-tweets could imply about 500,000 exposures to those messages per week. It is more likely, however, that Twitter is just a subset of a larger disinformation campaign carried out on multiple social media platforms (Issac and Wakabayashi, 2017; Howard, et al., 2018), as well as spread through social contagion (Centola, 2010) and to other parts of the interconnected ‘media ecosystem’ including print, radio and television (Benkler, et al., 2018). In this way IRA disinformation can frame the debate, meaning many more people than those directly exposed can be affected (Jamieson, 2018).


Any correlation established by an observational study could be spurious. Though our main finding has proved robust and our time series analysis excludes reverse causation, there could still be a third variable driving the relationship between IRA Twitter success and U.S. election opinion polls. We controlled for one of these — the success of Donald Trump’s personal Twitter account — but there are others that are more difficult to measure; including exposure to the U.S domestic media.


The asymmetrical effect we observed could be because specific groups and media outlets were targeted by the IRA (Jamieson, 2018; Miller, 2019) and those media outlets were particularly susceptible to disinformation (Benkler, et al., 2018), leading to considerably more re-tweets from those targeted groups (Badawy, et al., 2018).


We use macro-level data to establish a link between exposure to IRA disinformation and changes in U.S. public opinion. However, using aggregated data means we cannot know the extent to which the participants in election polls were exposed to IRA disinformation. This may not matter once social contagion (Centola, 2010) and media ecosystem effects (Benkler, et al., 2018) are taken into consideration. Nonetheless, establishing individual-level causal mechanisms should be a priority (Gerber and Zavisca, 2016; Spaiser, et al., 2017).


Here we have presented evidence that social media disinformation can measurably change public opinion polls. Though we focused on a particular high-profile example in 2016, social media propaganda is a growing problem affecting voting populations around the world, regardless of affiliation, and ought to be given serious attention in the future. Our study motivates future investigation that seeks to establish the causal mechanisms of disinformation exposure on the opinions and behavior of individuals. These future studies should measure exposure to all media in the media ecosystem, not just social media
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No one is denying that. But y'all didn't have to hire Mueller to find out Trump had nothing to do with it.
 
D

Deleted member 21794

Guest
I didn't change the subject. I just gave you counter example that you could not refute.

If it is a joke then explain how. Are you going to say the right wing media did not have you chumps and suckers believe far fetched lies for years ?

Do I need to list all of the crazy shite you guys believed in just the years before the election ?


They had already driven you to the point where you were vulnerable to Russian propaganda because you had already accepted so many lies from the right wing media's propaganda.
No need to refute an example of something not remotely close to the topic. Now tell me again how an amount of money equal to 0.016% of what was spent on Hillary's behalf moved the polls 1%. Was Cankles Inc. not targeting voters in similar fashion to the nefarious Russians?
 

Colorforms

Senator
Of course the GOP knows this and it is assuredly the reason they have tirelessly worked to block any efforts to protect America and prevent future Russian attacks on our electoral system.
They are traitors betraying our country right before our eyes.



Discussion and conclusions

Here we have (a) examined the timing of the IRA Twitter activity, which suggests a strategic release in parallel with significant political events before the 2016 election and (b) used vector autoregression (VAR) to test if the success of IRA activity on Twitter predicted changes in the 2016 election opinion polls. On a weekly time scale, we find that multiple time series of IRA tweet success robustly predicted increasing opinion polls for one candidate, but not the other. The opinion polls do not predict future success of the IRA tweets. The findings proved robust to many different checks.


The result, a one percent poll increase for the Republican candidate for every 25,000 weekly re-tweets of IRA messages, raises two questions about the effect: one regarding the magnitude and one regarding its asymmetry.


Here we have tested prediction, not causality. It seems unlikely that 25,000 re-tweets could influence one percent of the electorate in isolation (Guess, et al., 2019; Allcott, et al., 2019), although this might be more plausible than presumed at first glance, given that only about four percent of viewed tweets result in re-retweets (Lee, et al., 2015), such that 25,000 re-tweets could imply about 500,000 exposures to those messages per week. It is more likely, however, that Twitter is just a subset of a larger disinformation campaign carried out on multiple social media platforms (Issac and Wakabayashi, 2017; Howard, et al., 2018), as well as spread through social contagion (Centola, 2010) and to other parts of the interconnected ‘media ecosystem’ including print, radio and television (Benkler, et al., 2018). In this way IRA disinformation can frame the debate, meaning many more people than those directly exposed can be affected (Jamieson, 2018).


Any correlation established by an observational study could be spurious. Though our main finding has proved robust and our time series analysis excludes reverse causation, there could still be a third variable driving the relationship between IRA Twitter success and U.S. election opinion polls. We controlled for one of these — the success of Donald Trump’s personal Twitter account — but there are others that are more difficult to measure; including exposure to the U.S domestic media.


The asymmetrical effect we observed could be because specific groups and media outlets were targeted by the IRA (Jamieson, 2018; Miller, 2019) and those media outlets were particularly susceptible to disinformation (Benkler, et al., 2018), leading to considerably more re-tweets from those targeted groups (Badawy, et al., 2018).


We use macro-level data to establish a link between exposure to IRA disinformation and changes in U.S. public opinion. However, using aggregated data means we cannot know the extent to which the participants in election polls were exposed to IRA disinformation. This may not matter once social contagion (Centola, 2010) and media ecosystem effects (Benkler, et al., 2018) are taken into consideration. Nonetheless, establishing individual-level causal mechanisms should be a priority (Gerber and Zavisca, 2016; Spaiser, et al., 2017).


Here we have presented evidence that social media disinformation can measurably change public opinion polls. Though we focused on a particular high-profile example in 2016, social media propaganda is a growing problem affecting voting populations around the world, regardless of affiliation, and ought to be given serious attention in the future. Our study motivates future investigation that seeks to establish the causal mechanisms of disinformation exposure on the opinions and behavior of individuals. These future studies should measure exposure to all media in the media ecosystem, not just social media
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No one in the GOP was president at the time :)
 

Spamature

President
You forgot she lied about a video
What video ?

STEELE DOSSIER COLLUSION WITH A FOREIGN OPERATIVE
The Steele Dossier was not know to the public until AFTER the election.

Trump's dealing with the Russians were.

FBI cover up of her crimes
Comey's letter to Republicans that they then rushed to make public hurt Clinton. The FBI was Trumpland according to agents inside the NY office.

Also the FBI never told the public that there was an FBI investigation into the Trump campiagn until AFTER the election.

Pay for play
It didn't happen. There is NO evidence that Clinton traded the power of her office for favors.

While Trump admitted to bribing public officials on stage in the 1st GOP debate.

anti second amendment
No she was not.



But of course we now know that Russian millions were flowing into the NRA coffers to fund Russian propaganda.
 

Spamature

President
No need to refute an example of something not remotely close to the topic. Now tell me again how an amount of money equal to 0.016% of what was spent on Hillary's behalf moved the polls 1%. Was Cankles Inc. not targeting voters in similar fashion to the nefarious Russians?

First of all. You are spewing more Russian propaganda while you make claims about Russian propaganda. It was not $160k

From the Mueller Report.



A Russian troll factory had a $1.25 million monthly budget to interfere in the 2016 US election

See, that's how you dispute a lie.

You don't just shout lie. You SHOW it's a lie.
 

Constitutional Sheepdog

][][][%er!!!!!!!
What video ?


The Steele Dossier was not know to the public until AFTER the election.

Trump's dealing with the Russians were.



Comey's letter to Republicans that they then rushed to make public hurt Clinton. The FBI was Trumpland according to agents inside the NY office.

Also the FBI never told the public that there was an FBI investigation into the Trump campiagn until AFTER the election.



It didn't happen. There is NO evidence that Clinton traded the power of her office for favors.

While Trump admitted to bribing public officials on stage in the 1st GOP debate.

No she was not.



But of course we now know that Russian millions were flowing into the NRA coffers to fund Russian propaganda.
What video? you're a dumb ass to ask.
The Steele dossier was known in 2016
Comey wanted to clear the path of any doubt of Clinton's innocence
Plenty of evidence of Clinton pay for play
nothing she wants in gun control is workable because we already have back ground checks Sutherland church shooting great example
Already have laws that prevent crazy people from getting a gun.
So therefore thanks for proving my point hillary was her own undoing.,
Russian didn't have to do a thing.
 

Spamature

President
No one is denying that. But y'all didn't have to hire Mueller to find out Trump had nothing to do with it.
An investigation into Russia's attack which Mueller says Trump & Co obstructed, lied and destroyed evidence to cover up their part in it.
 
D

Deleted member 21794

Guest
First of all. You are spewing more Russian propaganda while you make claims about Russian propaganda. It was not $160k

From the Mueller Report.



A Russian troll factory had a $1.25 million monthly budget to interfere in the 2016 US election
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See, that's how you dispute a lie.

You don't just shout lie. You SHOW it's a lie.
Actually, you're citing an accusation, likely from the very same indictment Mueller immediately began backpedaling and stalling once counsel showed up to demand a speedy trial.

Still, I'm very generous with you since you're not very bright. So let's assume you're correct. $1.25 million X 18 months. That comes out to $2.25 million. Divide that by the $1 billion spent on behalf of Cankles Inc. That comes out to 2.25% or 1/50 of what was spent on Cankles' behalf.

You're still in the hole. At least now you're just six feet under instead of thirty. Keep trying, you're fun to watch:
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
So horrible she got 3 million more votes than Putin's candidate.
3 million is a bald face lie.

then got drunk and blacked Slick eye and threw stuff at her staff...…..got any pictures of the Trophy she won____________ :)
 

Spamature

President
What video? you're a dumb ass to ask.
The dumb ass is the one that brings it up but can't name of link to it.


The Steele dossier was known in 2016
It was not known to the public until after the election.


Comey wanted to clear the path of any doubt of Clinton's innocence
By accusing her campaign of having withheld evidence ? How was that going to clear her ?
Plenty of evidence of Clinton pay for play
If that is the case then you should be able to name the incidences where that was shown.
nothing she wants in gun control is workable because we already have back ground checks Sutherland church shooting great example
And ?
Already have laws that prevent crazy people from getting a gun.
Yet when ever someone shoots a group of people Republicans first response is we need more funding for mental health and ways to prevent them from getting guns.

So therefore thanks for proving my point hillary was her own undoing.,
Russian didn't have to do a thing.
No, you prove my point that you winger are very susceptible to propaganda.
 
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