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No effort spared to blame anyone but the terrorist

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
1. The implication that Muslims and Central Americans aren't "normal people" is steeped in bigotry.
2. I support opening the borders to all immigrants.
3. Where did I say jihad didn't exist? The crusader mentality exists among Christians as well, and has more weaponry on its side.
And of course you want the borders open to all immigrants. And you want to "eat the rich." You are a communist and the open borders coupled with a generous welfare system is classic Cloward Piven. The truly funny part is how you wear your Marxism on your sleeve, while supporting the exact same policies as the Democratic party. You are doing them a huge disservice - they are trying desperately to keep their Marxism under cover (a cover you blow with your every post).
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Yeah gang members are regular people. I am sure many a Klansman are regular people as well. I bet you can even find people you could call nice involved in those groups.
So you are suggesting you also support allowing Klan type white supremacist immigrants into the nation in unchecked numbers then? Because that is the "logic" behind your post.
 

Spamature

President
So you are suggesting you also support allowing Klan type white supremacist immigrants into the nation in unchecked numbers then? Because that is the "logic" behind your post.
Klan type white supremacist are already here in far greater numbers. Are you saying that we should bar White Europeans who might hold racial and ethnic prejudices (like Milo for instance )from immigrating to this country. Because they are a pretty common phenomenon among right in this country.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Klan type white supremacist are already here in far greater numbers. Are you saying that we should bar White Europeans who might hold racial and ethnic prejudices (like Milo for instance )from immigrating to this country. Because they are a pretty common phenomenon among right in this country.
Yes, actually, that's exactly what I am saying. We should bar anybody from coming here who has racial or ethnic prejudices (like many Muslims) or who have criminal tendencies (like central american criminal gang members) or anyone at all who would indicate the likelihood of committing crimes, being unwilling or unable to assimilate, or simply incapable of contributing to our economy by dint of being uneducated, unskilled and/or uninterested in working (including caucasians).
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Yes, actually, that's exactly what I am saying. We should bar anybody from coming here who has racial or ethnic prejudices (like many Muslims) or who have criminal tendencies (like central american criminal gang members) or anyone at all who would indicate the likelihood of committing crimes, being unwilling or unable to assimilate, or simply incapable of contributing to our economy by dint of being uneducated, unskilled and/or uninterested in working (including caucasians).
http://conservativetribune.com/former-muslim-drops-hammer/?

I think Spamature is Muslim illegal................now with spell check...........
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
http://conservativetribune.com/former-muslim-drops-hammer/?

I think Spamature is Muslim illegal................now with spell check...........
I can't fathom why the left is so enamored of unchecked immigration. They keep pointing out (correctly) that not all Muslims are Jihadis and not all Latinos are criminals, but no one is saying that they are - only that it doesn't make any sense to throw open the doors and let as many Muslims and Latinos as want to, to come here. We know there are these problematic people in these populations, and why would we want the problematic people streaming here through unfettered immigration? Why not limit immigration only to those MOST likely to a) assimilate and b) contribute economically?
 

JackDallas

Senator
Supporting Member
I can't fathom why the left is so enamored of unchecked immigration. They keep pointing out (correctly) that not all Muslims are Jihadis and not all Latinos are criminals, but no one is saying that they are - only that it doesn't make any sense to throw open the doors and let as many Muslims and Latinos as want to, to come here. We know there are these problematic people in these populations, and why would we want the problematic people streaming here through unfettered immigration? Why not limit immigration only to those MOST likely to a) assimilate and b) contribute economically?
The Left doesn't care who gets, murdered, raped, or robbed, as long as they pick up votes to keep their worthless leaders in office.
 

connieb

Senator
And should Timothy McVeigh's ancestors have been kept out as well? Or are you gonna pretend that terrorism is a Muslim thing?
No, terrorism is a not a "muslim" thing. But, it is something we can keep out of this country. We can't stop all the nutters, even the home grown ones, but we don't have to let in potential nutters. They can stay and keep being nutters in their own lands. And, yes, I certainly think in the past we should have been more discriminating in what people we let in. But, at least back then you lived or died based on your own abilities. Now, you come, we educate your spawn, let you live in housing and feed you. So, we have the right and obligation to the existing taxpayers to make sure that we are only accepting the cream of the crop into our exclusive club.
 

connieb

Senator
There is no siloing of cultures. Cultures are intermixing all the time. It isn't anything a wall can change. It isn't anything cutting off immigration would change. Regardless of where foreigners actually physically live, whether it be next door, or half away around the world, their culture is mixing with ours. At this point no one is stifling the the movement of ideas.
The british psycho was radicalized over the internet. It had nothing to do with immigration.
They are not intermixing to this level. There may have been teh few odds and ends of peopel who traveled and mingled, shipping, internaitonal business, but there was certainly a time when you would live your whole life as an average person and NEVER encounter someone out of your own country.

He was there because his parents or grandparents were immigrants. Its one thing to spread our better ideas of cultre. It is an entire other thing to admit in people of inferior cultures.
 
They are not intermixing to this level. There may have been teh few odds and ends of peopel who traveled and mingled, shipping, internaitonal business, but there was certainly a time when you would live your whole life as an average person and NEVER encounter someone out of your own country.

He was there because his parents or grandparents were immigrants. Its one thing to spread our better ideas of cultre. It is an entire other thing to admit in people of inferior cultures.
The days when people could go their entire lives without encountering someone from another country are long gone. I don't remember this in my lifetime, and I have always lived in suburban predominately white areas. Foreigners don't need to live next door to influence your culture. Vets brought back a taste for Italian and Japanese foods from WW2. The information age allows cultures to be shared over the internet. Americans can watch Bollywood movies are K-pop music videos any time over the internet. Cultures aren't stagnant, they are all merging into global culture, and there is no stopping it.
-when you don't venture outside of Suburbia and experience other cultures you can not honestly claim that your culture is better. Its just all you know.
 

connieb

Senator
The days when people could go their entire lives without encountering someone from another country are long gone. I don't remember this in my lifetime, and I have always lived in suburban predominately white areas. Foreigners don't need to live next door to influence your culture. Vets brought back a taste for Italian and Japanese foods from WW2. The information age allows cultures to be shared over the internet. Americans can watch Bollywood movies are K-pop music videos any time over the internet. Cultures aren't stagnant, they are all merging into global culture, and there is no stopping it.
-when you don't venture outside of Suburbia and experience other cultures you can not honestly claim that your culture is better. Its just all you know.

They don't have to be nor should they be. If we stop and reverse this globalism trend. That is not to say it is not enjoyable to visit other cultures or have tourists here. But, certainly there is no reason to keep melding cultures by encouraging migration and integrated communities. Those cultures which have already evolved - can only be negatively influenced by attempting to integrate less evolved, less sophisticated and less educated cultures, who tend to be indiscriminate breeders and inferior morally.

I have traveled many times to other cultures and was an international relations major in college. I am well aware of what other culutres have to offer, and yes, I think that the vast majority are inferior to ours. I find cultures that do business via haggling and bargaining to lack integrity and honesty in business dealings. They are often extremely backward in their understanding and often try to cheat and steal. THIS is most south american and middle eastern cultures. Italian/Spanish and Greek tend towards laziness and low work ethic as well as incorporating too much bargaining and hagling and are only moderately stable and effective because of their proximity to better cultures and their historic contributions to modern society.
 

Drumcollie

* See DC's list of Kook posters*
Why do we let Christians live in the U.S., when their children might be terrorists? Because we value freedom of religion.
Really why do we let socialist Democrats live in this country when the most famous of you is from Germany, which would be Hitler and his precursor Marx?
 
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