Obama: What If We Were Wrong?

[georgephillip]

"How Trump’s Election Shook Obama: 'What if We Were Wrong?'"

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/30/us/politics/obama-reaction-trump-election-benjamin-rhodes.html

"WASHINGTON — Riding in a motorcade in Lima, Peru, shortly after the 2016 election, President Barack Obama was struggling to understand Donald J. Trump’s victory.

"'What if we were wrong?' he asked aides riding with him in the armored presidential limousine.

"He had read a column asserting that liberals had forgotten how important identity was to people and had promoted an empty cosmopolitan globalism that made many feel left behind. 'Maybe we pushed too far,' Mr. Obama said. 'Maybe people just want to fall back into their tribe.'"

Except it was never about tribe.

It was and is about economic class.

https://nypost.com/2016/01/17/occupy-obama-he-orchestrated-a-massive-transfer-of-wealth-to-the-1-percent/

 

[connieb]

News flash.... he was.

 

[make speed limit 45]

Aunt barry was wrong to think everyone shares his hatred of america and white men.

 

[Emily]

Except it was never about tribe.
It was and is about economic class.

I'd agree it was mostly about economics.
Still, "tribe" had something to do with it, too. Most Americans (and everyone else for that matter) feel that national sovereignty is important. The main exception being the Marxists. And the jews. But I repeat myself. What Democrats of Obama's stripe view derisively as tribalism, most Americans -- particularly, but not exclusively, White Americans -- view favorably as preserving the nation's sovereignty and character.

 

[georgephillip]

Aunt barry was wrong to think everyone shares his hatred of america and white men.

Obama's at least as white as you are.

https://www.cnbc.com/id/43080122

 

[Barbella]

Obama's at least as white as you are.

https://www.cnbc.com/id/43080122

Don't be silly. How could he be white when he was our "first black President"? ROTFLMAO...

It's either either, or or. You can't have it both ways.

 

[georgephillip]

I'd agree it was mostly about economics.
Still, "tribe" had something to do with it, too. Most Americans (and everyone else for that matter) feel that national sovereignty is important. The main exception being the Marxists. And the jews. But I repeat myself. What Democrats of Obama's stripe view derisively as tribalism, most Americans -- particularly, but not exclusively, White Americans -- view favorably as preserving the nation's sovereignty and character.

I think many White Americans regularly conflate nationalism with privilege.

There seems to be a long history of viewing America's national character primarily in terms of skin pigmentation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_nationalism#United_States

"Throughout the 19th and early 20th centuries, racial definitions of the American nation were still common, resulting in race-specific immigration restrictions, such as the Chinese Exclusion Act.

"Groups such as the Asiatic Exclusion League, formed on 14 May 1905 in San Francisco, California by 67 labor unions and supported by labor leaders (and European immigrants) Patrick Henry McCarthy of the Building Trades Council of San Francisco, Andrew Furuseth and Walter McCarthy of the Sailor's Union, attempted to influence legislation restricting Asian immigration.

"During the controversy surrounding the All of Mexico Movement, Senator John C. Calhoun of South Carolina stated 'We have never dreamt of incorporating into our Union any but the Caucasian race—the free white race... Ours, sir, is the Government of a white race.'"

 

[georgephillip]

News flash.... he was.

Obama served the same master as Trump and Clinton:

https://nypost.com/2016/01/17/occupy-obama-he-orchestrated-a-massive-transfer-of-wealth-to-the-1-percent/

"When people use the term Great Recession, they are playing into the charade laid out by Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department.

"The years 2008 through 2015 should be known as the Great Fleecing.

"During that time, the greatest transfer of wealth in the history of the world occurred.

"Some $4.5 trillion was given to Wall Street banks through its Quantitative Easing program, with the American people picking up the IOU."

 

[georgephillip]

Don't be silly. How could he be white when he was our "first black President"? ROTFLMAO...

It's either either, or or. You can't have it both ways.

http://theunitedvoices.com/commentary/?tag=one-drop-rule

 

[JuliefromOhio]

"How Trump’s Election Shook Obama: 'What if We Were Wrong?'"

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/30/us/politics/obama-reaction-trump-election-benjamin-rhodes.html

"WASHINGTON — Riding in a motorcade in Lima, Peru, shortly after the 2016 election, President Barack Obama was struggling to understand Donald J. Trump’s victory.

"'What if we were wrong?' he asked aides riding with him in the armored presidential limousine.

"He had read a column asserting that liberals had forgotten how important identity was to people and had promoted an empty cosmopolitan globalism that made many feel left behind. 'Maybe we pushed too far,' Mr. Obama said. 'Maybe people just want to fall back into their tribe.'"

Except it was never about tribe.

It was and is about economic class.

https://nypost.com/2016/01/17/occupy-obama-he-orchestrated-a-massive-transfer-of-wealth-to-the-1-percent/

Trump rode racism to the WH. It was never about economics. If it were, Trumpies would recognize how Trump's policies DO NOT help them monetarily.

 

[Emily]

Trump rode racism to the WH. It was never about economics.

Trump's "racism" and his running on "racism" only exist in the minds of hard-core Democrats and other Marxists. It was about economics more than anything else -- it always is. Anti-globalism was also a significant part of Trump's win, and there's a large economics component in that, too.

 

[Sickofleft]

He was wrong about a lot of things.

 

[georgephillip]

Trump rode racism to the WH. It was never about economics. If it were, Trumpies would recognize how Trump's policies DO NOT help them monetarily.

Trump is Obama's legacy, racially and economically.

It is always all about the money in a capitalist "free" market system:

https://nypost.com/2016/01/17/occupy-obama-he-orchestrated-a-massive-transfer-of-wealth-to-the-1-percent/

"If liberals are angry about inequality, they should look no further than President Obama. He has done more to contribute to the gap between rich and poor than anyone."

 

[JuliefromOhio]

Trump is Obama's legacy, racially and economically.

It is always all about the money in a capitalist "free" market system:

https://nypost.com/2016/01/17/occupy-obama-he-orchestrated-a-massive-transfer-of-wealth-to-the-1-percent/

"If liberals are angry about inequality, they should look no further than President Obama. He has done more to contribute to the gap between rich and poor than anyone."

How much did Trump decrease the wealth gap?

 

[georgephillip]

How much did Trump decrease the wealth gap?

Trump has been a creature of Wall Street his entire life.

Obama and Clinton are no better, and neither are most of the "New Democrats" waiting their turn in 2020.

 

[JuliefromOhio]

Trump has been a creature of Wall Street his entire life.

Obama and Clinton are no better, and neither are most of the "New Democrats" waiting their turn in 2020.

You come across as a Trumpie....seemingly having the need to bash 2 Dem presidents who didn't miraculously fix all of our problems. I've had my fill of your argument.

 

[georgephillip]

You come across as a Trumpie....seemingly having the need to bash 2 Dem presidents who didn't miraculously fix all of our problems. I've had my fill of your argument.

Those two Democratic presidents you slavishly support not only "didn't miraculously fix all our problems," they strongly advocated for trade and tax policies that greatly increased the wealth/income gap in the US.

^^^Rich White Trash

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Obama served the same master as Trump and Clinton:

https://nypost.com/2016/01/17/occupy-obama-he-orchestrated-a-massive-transfer-of-wealth-to-the-1-percent/

"When people use the term Great Recession, they are playing into the charade laid out by Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department.

"The years 2008 through 2015 should be known as the Great Fleecing.

"During that time, the greatest transfer of wealth in the history of the world occurred.

"Some $4.5 trillion was given to Wall Street banks through its Quantitative Easing program, with the American people picking up the IOU."

His stated goal was to "fundamentally transform" America (presumably into a euro-socialist style economic basket case). If you are going to do that, it's going to be way more achievable in an economic depression than it is in an (even fake) economic recovery. He tried his best to cripple the economy, but the Fed (which, unfortunately for him, doesn't work for the President) managed to lift the economy anyway, one multi-millionaire/billionaire at a time.

 

[georgephillip]

His stated goal was to "fundamentally transform" America (presumably into a euro-socialist style economic basket case). If you are going to do that, it's going to be way more achievable in an economic depression than it is in an (even fake) economic recovery. He tried his best to cripple the economy, but the Fed (which, unfortunately for him, doesn't work for the President) managed to lift the economy anyway, one multi-millionaire/billionaire at a time.

No POTUS since FDR came into office with a better opportunity to hold Wall Street accountable for its role in our Great Recession (Great Fleecing) than Obama in 2009.

Alas...

https://prof77.wordpress.com/politics/an-updated-list-of-goldman-sachs-ties-to-the-obama-government-including-elena-kagan/

"Barack Obama ran for president as a man of the people, standing up to Wall Street as the global economy melted down in that fateful fall of 2008.

"He pushed a tax plan to soak the rich, ripped NAFTA for hurting the middle class and tore into John McCain for supporting a bankruptcy bill that sided with wealthy bankers 'at the expense of hardworking Americans.'

"Obama may not have run to the left of Samuel Gompers or Cesar Chavez, but it's not like you saw him on the campaign trail flanked by bankers from Citigroup and Goldman Sachs.

"What inspired supporters who pushed him to his historic win was the sense that a genuine outsider was finally breaking into an exclusive club, that walls were being torn down, that things were, for lack of a better or more specific term, changing.

"Then he got elected."

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2009/12/13/obamas-big-sellout-president-has-packed-his-economic-team-wall-street-insiders

 

[Raoul_Luke]

No POTUS since FDR came into office with a better opportunity to hold Wall Street accountable for its role in our Great Recession (Great Fleecing) than Obama in 2009.

Alas...

https://prof77.wordpress.com/politics/an-updated-list-of-goldman-sachs-ties-to-the-obama-government-including-elena-kagan/

"Barack Obama ran for president as a man of the people, standing up to Wall Street as the global economy melted down in that fateful fall of 2008.

"He pushed a tax plan to soak the rich, ripped NAFTA for hurting the middle class and tore into John McCain for supporting a bankruptcy bill that sided with wealthy bankers 'at the expense of hardworking Americans.'

"Obama may not have run to the left of Samuel Gompers or Cesar Chavez, but it's not like you saw him on the campaign trail flanked by bankers from Citigroup and Goldman Sachs.

"What inspired supporters who pushed him to his historic win was the sense that a genuine outsider was finally breaking into an exclusive club, that walls were being torn down, that things were, for lack of a better or more specific term, changing.

"Then he got elected."

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2009/12/13/obamas-big-sellout-president-has-packed-his-economic-team-wall-street-insiders

That's all happy talk for a socialist agenda. I agree that no President since FDR had a better opportunity to push the US even further into the Marxist rat hole. The fact that he wasn't as accomplished in that endeavor as FDR gives us a (short) reprieve from the March to Marxism. And when we get there, and the economy fails, you guys will STILL be blaming the "capitalists" for every economic problem, am I right?