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Oh My, What To Do?

OldTrapper

Council Member
According to the hate wing media (fake news links you provided) and TDS sufferers but normal folks are quite happy being allowed to keep more of what is theirs..
BTW, the tariffs to bring China in line have not taken affect yet to do spin another lie.
Those who did not get a tax cut do not pay taxes and as such should not expect a cut from nothing.
You really make it hard to determine who is the stupidist ass in here:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/22/heres-why-your-tax-refund-could-be-smaller-than-last-year.html
 

OldTrapper

Council Member
LOL! You are starting to sound like a libertarian. Welcome to the dark side...
I am registered as an Independent even though I change that to vote in the primaries. Am probably closer to Libertarian in the form of a Classical Liberal of the Jefferson ilk that many that call themselves "Libertarian". ;)
 

kaz

Small l libertarian
One of the questions people with morals, and values, face in this election, as well as many in the past, is the question of who to vote for. People such as myself cannot vote Democratic primarily over the abortion issue. And we can't vote for the Republicans because of the lack of concern for the poor, the indulgence of the wealthy, and the maltreatment of immigrants, and the destruction of the working class. And it is obvious that the two major parties will never allow a third party to rule.

So where does one go if they care for the country, and the people?
Consider voting for libertarians. BTW, the poor need jobs, not handouts if you really care about them. Democrats are importing millions of low skilled, uneducated people to keep our own poor unemployed. Now that is truly sick
 

OldTrapper

Council Member
LOL, those dolts live in hate states, it is not the presidents fault that those folks voted for state representatives who like to steal money and give it away
Anything to suit your fantasy of the day, and to satisfy your hatred of others.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
I am registered as an Independent even though I change that to vote in the primaries. Am probably closer to Libertarian in the form of a Classical Liberal of the Jefferson ilk that many that call themselves "Libertarian". ;)
Yeah, I know the type. You'd gladly embrace "libertarianism" except that you hate capitalism. What you don't understand is that what you hate is crony capitalism, which is what we've had for the past 60 or 70 years. You can be a "capitalist" while being against our corporatist structure (and the Federal Reserve that feeds and clothes it).
 

OldTrapper

Council Member
Yeah, I know the type. You'd gladly embrace "libertarianism" except that you hate capitalism. What you don't understand is that what you hate is crony capitalism, which is what we've had for the past 60 or 70 years. You can be a "capitalist" while being against our corporatist structure (and the Federal Reserve that feeds and clothes it).
Don't see where you got all of that out of my comment, however, knowing what a low IQ forum this is I doubt you even understand what I said. Unlike you I do understand the difference between capitalism, crony capitalism, corporatism, etc. However, as time will tell, it is not just "crony capitalism" that is destroying the country, it is also a greatly "unfettered capitalism" that Adam Smith warned against that is destroying the economy, and the country.

For some reason I doubt if you even know what Capitalism, is, or, for that matter, what Classical Liberalism is.
 

RickWA

Senator
One of the questions people with morals, and values, face in this election, as well as many in the past, is the question of who to vote for. People such as myself cannot vote Democratic primarily over the abortion issue. And we can't vote for the Republicans because of the lack of concern for the poor, the indulgence of the wealthy, and the maltreatment of immigrants, and the destruction of the working class. And it is obvious that the two major parties will never allow a third party to rule.

So where does one go if they care for the country, and the people?
I vote third party in every presidential election. It’s the way to go. The two major parties are an abomination.
 

kaz

Small l libertarian
Don't see where you got all of that out of my comment, however, knowing what a low IQ forum this is I doubt you even understand what I said. Unlike you I do understand the difference between capitalism, crony capitalism, corporatism, etc. However, as time will tell, it is not just "crony capitalism" that is destroying the country, it is also a greatly "unfettered capitalism" that Adam Smith warned against that is destroying the economy, and the country.

For some reason I doubt if you even know what Capitalism, is, or, for that matter, what Classical Liberalism is.
Capitalism is just economic freedom. Crony capitalism and corporatism are forms of socialism where government picks market winners.

Do you know that? How is economic freedom "destroying the economy?"
 

kaz

Small l libertarian
I vote third party in every presidential election. It’s the way to go. The two major parties are an abomination.
Agreed. I've voted third party in 6 of the last 7 elections. I am sending the clear vote that I am not happy with the TwoParty choices
 
I vote third party in every presidential election. It’s the way to go. The two major parties are an abomination.
I appreciate the reasons you don't like either party but if you don't choose between the only two possible future presidents, i.e. the lessor of two evils, then you are not participating in deciding who your next president is.
 
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