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Perfect example of the left's insidious propaganda campaign...

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Against Trump. Moira Liaison this morning was being interviewed on NPR about this week's happenings in DC and she referred to (quote) "President Trumps unfounded claims" that the Obama Administration had him under surveillance. How the ef does she know that the claims are "unfounded?"

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/unfounded

She doesn't possess perfect knowledge in this matter, yet she pronounces him a liar on this matter. First of all, we know that the Obama Administration was "hair on fire" outraged about the notion that the Russians were helping Trump's campaign.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/01/us/politics/obama-trump-russia-election-hacking.html?_r=0

That is fact number one. We also know that there were requests for FISA warrants regarding these suspicions:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/trump-russia-associates-investigation.html?_r=0

That is fact number two. We also know for a fact (number three) that Michael Flynn's conversations with the Russian Ambassador were recorded without his knowledge:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/02/14/fbi-needs-to-explain-why-michael-flynn-was-recorded-gop-intelligence-chairman-says/?utm_term=.10fd542d6c05

So we have three facts that suggest there was at least some surveillance of the Trump team by someone, presumably with the awareness of the Obama Administration.

So in fact the correct word she should have used is "unsubstantiated:"

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/unsubstantiated?s=t

Which is what Trump's claim is. We (and the media) have no idea if it is, in fact, "unfounded." But she didn't use the correct word - she used "unfounded." Which she actually has no idea as to whether or not it is (indeed) "unfounded." And that, folks, is how the subversive left creates fake "news" that serves the Democrats' efforts to delegitimize the Trump Administration.
 

Craig

Senator
Supporting Member
Against Trump. Moira Liaison this morning was being interviewed on NPR about this week's happenings in DC and she referred to (quote) "President Trumps unfounded claims" that the Obama Administration had him under surveillance. How the ef does she know that the claims are "unfounded?"

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/unfounded

She doesn't possess perfect knowledge in this matter, yet she pronounces him a liar on this matter. First of all, we know that the Obama Administration was "hair on fire" outraged about the notion that the Russians were helping Trump's campaign.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/01/us/politics/obama-trump-russia-election-hacking.html?_r=0

That is fact number one. We also know that there were requests for FISA warrants regarding these suspicions:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/trump-russia-associates-investigation.html?_r=0

That is fact number two. We also know for a fact (number three) that Michael Flynn's conversations with the Russian Ambassador were recorded without his knowledge:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/02/14/fbi-needs-to-explain-why-michael-flynn-was-recorded-gop-intelligence-chairman-says/?utm_term=.10fd542d6c05

So we have three facts that suggest there was at least some surveillance of the Trump team by someone, presumably with the awareness of the Obama Administration.

So in fact the correct word she should have used is "unsubstantiated:"

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/unsubstantiated?s=t

Which is what Trump's claim is. We (and the media) have no idea if it is, in fact, "unfounded." But she didn't use the correct word - she used "unfounded." Which she actually has no idea as to whether or not it is (indeed) "unfounded." And that, folks, is how the subversive left creates fake "news" that serves the Democrats' efforts to delegitimize the Trump Administration.
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Addy

Rebuild With Biden!
Holding Trump accountable for his accusations and lies is not exactly a propaganda campaign.
Members of his own party want him to shape up and act presidential as well.
D.C., whether Trump likes it or not is about law and order.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Precisely. We don't know what the "facts" are surrounding this allegation. There may or may not be proof. Even if there isn't any proof, that doesn't mean it didn't happen, as there's plenty of smoke in the three facts I pointed out that we do know. Which is why "unsubstantiated" is the term a real, impartial journalist would use. Liaison is just a shill for the DNC...
 

justoffal

Senator
Holding Trump accountable for his accusations and lies is not exactly a propaganda campaign.
Members of his own party want him to shape up and act presidential as well.
D.C., whether Trump likes it or not is about law and order.
Sure it is...But you're missing the point...Your double standard is showing again....Ass crack too. That I believe is quite on purpose.

Jo
 

Craig

Senator
Supporting Member
Precisely. We don't know what the "facts" are surrounding this allegation. There may or may not be proof. Even if there isn't any proof, that doesn't mean it didn't happen, as there's plenty of smoke in the three facts I pointed out that we do know. Which is why "unsubstantiated" is the term a real, impartial journalist would use. Liaison is just a shill for the DNC...
Huh?

It's a synonym. At this point, the assertion is not based in fact.

Just as these are the synonyms for unsubstantiated...

Synonyms for unsubstantiated
adj questionable, unproven
 

Addy

Rebuild With Biden!
Sure it is...But you're missing the point...Your double standard is showing again....Ass crack too. That I believe is quite on purpose.

Jo
More like non thinking Trump lovers are missing the point. Trump wants others investigated -- but he thinks he and his administration should be off limits.
Buyers' remorse is setting in no doubt about it.
Here's a poll from a source you PJ cons usually believe in.



“Fox News Poll: Should Congress investigate alleged Trump-Russia coordination?”

Fox News Poll: Should Congress investigate alleged Trump-Russia coordination? pic.twitter.com/5KEnEqqmVE

— Fox News (@FoxNews) March 18, 2017



But that’s not all. None of the issues polled garnered even 50% support. In the words of Trump — sad!

Fox News Poll: Approve of @POTUS's handling of: pic.twitter.com/VUbiP3E1u5

— Fox News (@FoxNews) March 18, 2017
 

Spamature

President
Against Trump. Moira Liaison this morning was being interviewed on NPR about this week's happenings in DC and she referred to (quote) "President Trumps unfounded claims" that the Obama Administration had him under surveillance. How the ef does she know that the claims are "unfounded?"

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/unfounded

She doesn't possess perfect knowledge in this matter, yet she pronounces him a liar on this matter. First of all, we know that the Obama Administration was "hair on fire" outraged about the notion that the Russians were helping Trump's campaign.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/01/us/politics/obama-trump-russia-election-hacking.html?_r=0

That is fact number one. We also know that there were requests for FISA warrants regarding these suspicions:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/trump-russia-associates-investigation.html?_r=0

That is fact number two. We also know for a fact (number three) that Michael Flynn's conversations with the Russian Ambassador were recorded without his knowledge:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/02/14/fbi-needs-to-explain-why-michael-flynn-was-recorded-gop-intelligence-chairman-says/?utm_term=.10fd542d6c05

So we have three facts that suggest there was at least some surveillance of the Trump team by someone, presumably with the awareness of the Obama Administration.

So in fact the correct word she should have used is "unsubstantiated:"

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/unsubstantiated?s=t

Which is what Trump's claim is. We (and the media) have no idea if it is, in fact, "unfounded." But she didn't use the correct word - she used "unfounded." Which she actually has no idea as to whether or not it is (indeed) "unfounded." And that, folks, is how the subversive left creates fake "news" that serves the Democrats' efforts to delegitimize the Trump Administration.
Are there no depths to which you will not sink to defend this lunatic ? a) It didn't happen b) He is the very person who could order all of the information be made public if it had happened. Since he can not produce the evidence that he and he alone has available to him.

WACKY
CRAZY
INSANE
BONKERS

Also apply to his statement along with the word unfounded.
 
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Jen

Senator
Against Trump. Moira Liaison this morning was being interviewed on NPR about this week's happenings in DC and she referred to (quote) "President Trumps unfounded claims" that the Obama Administration had him under surveillance. How the ef does she know that the claims are "unfounded?"

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/unfounded

She doesn't possess perfect knowledge in this matter, yet she pronounces him a liar on this matter. First of all, we know that the Obama Administration was "hair on fire" outraged about the notion that the Russians were helping Trump's campaign.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/01/us/politics/obama-trump-russia-election-hacking.html?_r=0

That is fact number one. We also know that there were requests for FISA warrants regarding these suspicions:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/trump-russia-associates-investigation.html?_r=0

That is fact number two. We also know for a fact (number three) that Michael Flynn's conversations with the Russian Ambassador were recorded without his knowledge:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/02/14/fbi-needs-to-explain-why-michael-flynn-was-recorded-gop-intelligence-chairman-says/?utm_term=.10fd542d6c05

So we have three facts that suggest there was at least some surveillance of the Trump team by someone, presumably with the awareness of the Obama Administration.

So in fact the correct word she should have used is "unsubstantiated:"

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/unsubstantiated?s=t

Which is what Trump's claim is. We (and the media) have no idea if it is, in fact, "unfounded." But she didn't use the correct word - she used "unfounded." Which she actually has no idea as to whether or not it is (indeed) "unfounded." And that, folks, is how the subversive left creates fake "news" that serves the Democrats' efforts to delegitimize the Trump Administration.
Leftist Narrative is all lie.
Leftists believe that narrative, therefore they are stupid.

All we have to do is understand that Leftist lies with authority. Leftist slams hard on anyone who says they are lying and produces the truth to show it. We need to come down on Lefty and get rid of it. Lies should no longer have power.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Holding Trump accountable for his accusations and lies is not exactly a propaganda campaign.
Members of his own party want him to shape up and act presidential as well.
D.C., whether Trump likes it or not is about law and order.
"presidential"==faking what you are, we've had enough of those
 
Holding Trump accountable for his accusations and lies is not exactly a propaganda campaign.
Members of his own party want him to shape up and act presidential as well.
D.C., whether Trump likes it or not is about law and order.
Members of his own party want him to shape up and act presidential as well.
D.C., whether Trump likes it or not is about law and order.
Dem-Loving Dinosaurs Dying

Desperate wishful thinking. RINOs have had their horns filed down and are powerless. They know that if they try to pair up with the Dhimmicracks, they will both sink into the swamp's quicksand.
 

Addy

Rebuild With Biden!
"presidential"==faking what you are, we've had enough of those
That's absolutely absurd. That's the poorest excuse for Trump being incompetent and unfit to be president I have ever heard.
He knows he can get away with any thing as long as he has people like you and other non thinkers upholding his unhinged behavior.
Thank goodness many that once supported him are now aware of his unpredictable and unchangeable behavior/personality... polls show they are now rejecting him.
 

Days

Commentator
That's absolutely absurd. That's the poorest excuse for Trump being incompetent and unfit to be president I have ever heard.
He knows he can get away with any thing as long as he has people like you and other non thinkers upholding his unhinged behavior.
Thank goodness many that once supported him are now aware of his unpredictable and unchangeable behavior/personality... polls show they are now rejecting him.
I think you are simply out of your mind attacking the guy. His behavior is rather mild compared to presidents like Andrew Jackson.
 

Days

Commentator
Are there no depths to which you will not sink to defend this lunatic ? a) It didn't happen b) He is the very person who could order all of the information be made public if it had happened. Since he can not produce the evidence that he and he alone has available to him.

WACKY
CRAZY
INSANE
BONKERS

Also apply to his statement along with the word unfounded.
Where ever did you get the idea that the president has to stand trial to your non-stop onslaught of false accusations?
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
That's absolutely absurd. That's the poorest excuse for Trump being incompetent and unfit to be president I have ever heard.
He knows he can get away with any thing as long as he has people like you and other non thinkers upholding his unhinged behavior.
Thank goodness many that once supported him are now aware of his unpredictable and unchangeable behavior/personality... polls show they are now rejecting him.
Truman was like Trump..................remember him?

As long as it wasn't illary, I'm fine with Trump
 

Spamature

President
Where ever did you get the idea that the president has to stand trial to your non-stop onslaught of false accusations?
First of all, I don't make false accusations. Secondly all presidents stand trial in the court of public opinion. I am just one of the millions of prosecutors in that court.
 

Spamature

President
That's absolutely absurd. That's the poorest excuse for Trump being incompetent and unfit to be president I have ever heard.
He knows he can get away with any thing as long as he has people like you and other non thinkers upholding his unhinged behavior.
Thank goodness many that once supported him are now aware of his unpredictable and unchangeable behavior/personality... polls show they are now rejecting him.
They're sitting there trying to convince people this insanity is normal. This is just like when they tried to convince everyone that Al Gore would have invaded Iraq after 9/11 to justify bush's lying us into war. Just like they try to blame liberals because they were stupid and racist enough to vote for Trump.
 

Addy

Rebuild With Biden!
I think you are simply out of your mind attacking the guy.
Even crazier is the way you keep defending a known bully and liar. His non-stop lying doesn't even appear to bother you.

A Bombshell Lawsuit Accuses Trump Of Lying And Illegally Hiding His Personal Debts

President Trump is being sued for lying to the public by hiding his personal debts in violation of government rules on his personal disclosure form.
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/03/19/bombshell-lawsuit-accuses-trump-lying-illegally-hiding-personal-debts.html
 

Days

Commentator
First of all, I don't make false accusations. Secondly all presidents stand trial in the court of public opinion. I am just one of the millions of prosecutors in that court.
that was sum funny sh*t

a) It probably did happen, and he doesn't need to prove jack shit to you or the press, he has the same right of free speech as any other American. He says it happened. That was FYI, when you come back and say it didn't happen without knowing any such thing, you made a false accusation (repeated it).

carry on mr john Q prosecutor
 

Days

Commentator
Even crazier is the way you keep defending a known bully and liar. His non-stop lying doesn't even appear to bother you.

A Bombshell Lawsuit Accuses Trump Of Lying And Illegally Hiding His Personal Debts

President Trump is being sued for lying to the public by hiding his personal debts in violation of government rules on his personal disclosure form.
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/03/19/bombshell-lawsuit-accuses-trump-lying-illegally-hiding-personal-debts.html
I think you are simply out of your mind attacking the guy...

that includes the whole press and political movement against Trump that started the night of the election... hell, the networks wouldn't even admit he won the election, he had to make his victory speech to get them to concede defeat. Hillary conceded defeat but the networks still refused to do so. The virulent attacks on Trump started right then, it was as if a bunch of pedophiles were seriously fighting to keep this administration from sending them to jail.

Now, to the casual observer (I voted for Bernie Sanders in the primaries, then went Green in Fall) the political left looks like utter lunatics. It is so ridiculous, I quit reading Google News hit jobs, which is all the press is writing, and I don't think those opinion polls are remotely honest, I think most of America feels the same way I do, we are sick of this non-stop propaganda hit job on the president.

400 Hollywood pedophiles were rounded up in the first big sting by the FBI. Guess who is next? Congress. All these accusations are to keep this administration off balance, because the pedophiles don't want to go to prison.
 
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