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President Trump Says He Would Definitely Collude This Time

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Nope. It was produced SOLELY for the Clinton campaign, BY OBAMA, and was used to defraud a FISA court.

And it was a dossier based on LIES.

If anyone should be in prison it should be Obama, Clinton and anyone else associated with this FELONY.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is an uneducated moron.
1. The dossier was produced by Obama? You really are hopeless.
2. If the FISA court was "defrauded" why hasn't the FISA court acted to punish those who actually did that? In fact, why have former FISA court judges spoken up to debunk that claim?
3. What law was broken? You claim a felony was committed....
 

llovejim

Current Champion
Actually, that is THEIR position. They admitted it. This whole Mueller fiasco is the result of fraud of an INSURANCE POLICY they admitted to. In the event Hillary didn't win, they would have this to fck the country with.

And it worked. It shut down the House for two years.
no, you just believe everything fox and breitbart bend you over and fill you up with. neither of these two agents who were just shooting the shit on a company phone that they knew would be able to be tracked and recorded would say anything seriously about some secret plan to screw over anybody KNOWING THEY WERE USING A COMPANY PHONE...not even trump or his two sons are that stupid. and neither one of them could create fake evidence, or force anyone to not do their job, or had the authority to affect the investigation in any way EVEN IF THEY WANTED TO. you are just very, very, gullible and easily played by your right wing masters. and it is very funny to listen to you repeat such silly bullshit like you really believe it!!
 

reason10

Governor
no, you just believe everything fox and breitbart bend you over and fill you up with. neither of these two agents who were just shooting the shit on a company phone that they knew would be able to be tracked and recorded would say anything seriously about some secret plan to screw over anybody KNOWING THEY WERE USING A COMPANY PHONE...not even trump or his two sons are that stupid. and neither one of them could create fake evidence, or force anyone to not do their job, or had the authority to affect the investigation in any way EVEN IF THEY WANTED TO. you are just very, very, gullible and easily played by your right wing masters. and it is very funny to listen to you repeat such silly bullshit like you really believe it!!
And you believe CNN, which is fake news.

I'll stick with the facts, and you stick with the crack pipe.
 

reason10

Governor
1. The dossier was produced by Obama? You really are hopeless.
https://thefederalist.com/2017/10/29/obamas-campaign-gave-972000-law-firm-funneled-money-fusion-gps/
Obama’s Campaign Paid $972,000 To Law Firm That Secretly Paid Fusion GPS In 2016

2. If the FISA court was "defrauded" why hasn't the FISA court acted to punish those who actually did that? In fact, why have former FISA court judges spoken up to debunk that claim?

That's kinda what the Attorney General is doing now. He has appointed a special prosecutor and when the facts are in, heads will roll.


3. What law was broken? You claim a felony was committed.

Several: Election fraud, FISA court fraud, collusion with a foreign government, perjury.

https://www.teaparty.org/official-now-proof-corrupt-fired-former-fbi-director-james-comey-lied-fisa-court-spy-candidate-trump-336398/
Former FBI Director James Comey is reportedly in this long email chain which is dated October of 2016 – just before the FBI obtained its first FISA warrant on Trump campaign advisor Carter Page.


“If these documents are released, the American public will have clear and convincing evidence to see the FISA warrant that escalated the Russia probe just before Election Day was flawed and the judges (were) misled,” one knowledgeable source told John Solomon.


  1. The FBI acknowledged in the emails there were intelligence community concerns about the Steele dossier before they secured a FISA warrant.
  2. The FBI knew Steele was talking to the media before they obtained a FISA warrant.

This is significant because the FBI has maintained for the last two years that they fired Christopher Steele after they obtained the FISA warrant after finding out he violated FBI protocol by speaking to the media.


The FBI used Michael Isikoff’s Yahoo News article as a source to corroborate the Steele dossier when presenting evidence to the FISC. If they knew Steele was Isikoff’s source, the FBI is guilty of circular intelligence reporting which of course is against protocol. They presented the two sources as independent which means they defrauded the FISC.

Steele even admitted his information was unverified. So they KNOWINGLY defrauded the FISA court and wasted BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars with the Mueller witch hunt. And got [Unwelcome language removed] NOTHING.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/25/christopher-steele-admits-dossier-charge-unverifie/
Ex-spy admits anti-Trump dossier unverified, blames Buzzfeed for publishing



 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Actually, that is THEIR position. They admitted it. This whole Mueller fiasco is the result of fraud of an INSURANCE POLICY they admitted to. In the event Hillary didn't win, they would have this to fck the country with.

And it worked. It shut down the House for two years.
You should look at what the House legislation list looks like. The House has not been shut down....

You think the dossier was the only reason to investigate the election? What about the hack of the DNC email server, hacks on election systems around the country? What about the Russian troll farm?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
1. The dossier was produced by Obama? You really are hopeless.
https://thefederalist.com/2017/10/29/obamas-campaign-gave-972000-law-firm-funneled-money-fusion-gps/
Obama’s Campaign Paid $972,000 To Law Firm That Secretly Paid Fusion GPS In 2016


2. If the FISA court was "defrauded" why hasn't the FISA court acted to punish those who actually did that? In fact, why have former FISA court judges spoken up to debunk that claim?


That's kinda what the Attorney General is doing now. He has appointed a special prosecutor and when the facts are in, heads will roll.


3. What law was broken? You claim a felony was committed.

Several: Election fraud, FISA court fraud, collusion with a foreign government, perjury.

https://www.teaparty.org/official-now-proof-corrupt-fired-former-fbi-director-james-comey-lied-fisa-court-spy-candidate-trump-336398/
Former FBI Director James Comey is reportedly in this long email chain which is dated October of 2016 – just before the FBI obtained its first FISA warrant on Trump campaign advisor Carter Page.


“If these documents are released, the American public will have clear and convincing evidence to see the FISA warrant that escalated the Russia probe just before Election Day was flawed and the judges (were) misled,” one knowledgeable source told John Solomon.



  1. The FBI acknowledged in the emails there were intelligence community concerns about the Steele dossier before they secured a FISA warrant.
  2. The FBI knew Steele was talking to the media before they obtained a FISA warrant.

This is significant because the FBI has maintained for the last two years that they fired Christopher Steele after they obtained the FISA warrant after finding out he violated FBI protocol by speaking to the media.


The FBI used Michael Isikoff’s Yahoo News article as a source to corroborate the Steele dossier when presenting evidence to the FISC. If they knew Steele was Isikoff’s source, the FBI is guilty of circular intelligence reporting which of course is against protocol. They presented the two sources as independent which means they defrauded the FISC.

Steele even admitted his information was unverified. So they KNOWINGLY defrauded the FISA court and wasted BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars with the Mueller witch hunt. And got [Unwelcome language removed] NOTHING.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/25/christopher-steele-admits-dossier-charge-unverifie/
Ex-spy admits anti-Trump dossier unverified, blames Buzzfeed for publishing


You guys do that...breathlessly proclaim

Obama’s Campaign Paid $972,000 To Law Firm That Secretly Paid Fusion GPS In 2016!!!!

as if that means something dramatic. It doesn't. Perkins Coie is a law firm. I'm sure they have a lot of clients. They've represented OFA for years in a number of legal actions that people have brought against Obama and his election campaigns in 2008 and 2012...Remember Orly Taitz?

Your sources are a joke. "Tea Party.ORG"? Washington Times? You think CNN isn't reliable? The headlines proclaim a smoking gun but then say "IF THESE DOCUMENTS ARE RELEASE"....so the fact is that they don't know what is in them....
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
And you believe CNN, which is fake news.

I'll stick with the facts, and you stick with the crack pipe.
And your facts come from the Washington Times and TeaParty.ORG....as if they are reliable in any way. Do you belong to the Unification Church...I hear members of the church get a discount on the Moonie News....
 
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