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Prystaiko says Parnas untrustworthy.

NinaS

Senator
Supporting Member
i doubt you ever heard of Parnas until he said something bad about Trump, then you were all up in his ass.....
Nope...I'd never heard of him...but Trump had. TONS of pictures of him with Trump...even a video. Best buddies, it looks like. He donated a slug of money to Trump's campaign. He didn't say "something" bad about Trump. He's saying LOTS of things about him. And there are documents, he says to prove it. But the right wingers in the Senate will ignore the oath they took and do their partisan BS to keep it from coming out.
 

NinaS

Senator
Supporting Member
Of course he’s untrustworthy - he’s a crony of Trump and Giuliani.

Which does not mean that he is lying.
Funny that they talk about him not being trustworthy when their Messiah is the biggest liar on the face of this earth.
 

NinaS

Senator
Supporting Member
Of course he’s untrustworthy - he’s a crony of Trump and Giuliani.

Which does not mean that he is lying.
Gee, you'd think one of the Trump defenders who are in denial about his lack of candor, would want him to testify for himself. WTH is wrong with that guy? He's INNOCENT...it was a PERFECT phone call. Why doesn't he just put his tiny little hand up...take the oath, and tell all?? LOL That will happen the 12th of NEVER.
 

llovejim

Current Champion
Parnas trying to save own ass

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2020/01/16/vadym-prystaiko-ukrainian-foreign-minister-lev-parnas-amanpour-vpx.cnn

Naturally, the ukrainian foreign minister is lying...


Right? Right?..
of course Parnas is untrustworthy!! look at who he hung around with, who he worked for in Ukraine, who gave him access to authorities in both Ukraine and the top Republicans in this country as all the videos and pictures show!! like Parnas said, why should anyone in authority agree to meet with him? except he was connected to Rudy and Trump, and that gave him access to all these major power players so he could help Giuliani make deals and help trump get Ukraine to announce an investigation into biden and crowdstrike from 3 years ago or not get their vital military aid the GAO recently ruled Trump illegally withheld to use as the quid pro quo....

but just like with every other trial, or investigation, the cops, the prosecutors, the judges, the juries know that criminals tend to hang around with other criminals, or at least sleazy, untrustworthy types, so they listen to their testimony- THEN VERIFY....we know trump is a lying piece of shit, for example. so when he denies all this stuff, you have to believe he is lying...but, if he did let rudy or pompeo or bolton or rick perry or mulvaney testify under oath and they could somehow if not prove him not guilty, at least make it somewhat reasonable to doubt the slam dunk case against him right now, then we would have to at least give him the benefit of the doubt.

can any trump defender give an explanation for why Parnas had such access to really high level Ukrainians if he was not acting with Rudy and Trump at their direction and the Ukrainians knew it? Like your source the current Ukrainian foreign minister- why should he even know Parnas, much less have been around him enough to not trust him, and by extension Rudy, since they worked together in Ukraine?

And trump and McCarthy and Jared and nunes....why should a relatively obscure nobody like Parnas be hanging around all these high up Trump stooges and cronies and Trump himself, if he was not working with Rudy which gave him that access?
 

llovejim

Current Champion
$100K/mo.?
Agreed...that’s the kind of money only a dishonorably discharged, drug-addled, identity thief son of a VP...who doesn’t speak the language and has ZERO experience in either upstream or downstream energy...commands.

:-/
well, at least hunter has a yale law degree, way more than you will ever accomplish. are you envious, or what? and what in the hell does Hunter Biden have to do with trump or parnas or rudy or bolton or pompeo? you seem confused and envious of your betters!!

i would ask if you are one of those russian trolls getting paid to spew trump defending bullshit on the internet, but your posts attempting to defend the bone spur liar are just too weak and lame ass to believe any russian would pay for it. So you must be an amateur.
 

llovejim

Current Champion
Basically prystaiko says parnas is full of shit and grandstanding for his own gain.

Meanwhile monies provided by the United States are subject to regular review, which Ukraine has become accustomed to

Lastly he affirms no undo communications in the meeting between zalenski and Trump
you seem very confused about how monies authorized by congress, especially any concerning military aid, are vetted and the president is not part of that process as the GAO recently ruled. The vital military aid was authorized by Congress in February, the Pentagon held it up while it vetted Ukraine and made sure it was stable and secure enough to receive any military aid, and that it would be in safe hands...they released the aid in April.....AT THAT TIME IT HAD BEEN VETTED AS MUCH AS THE LAW PROVIDES. but trump told his lackey Mulvaney, his budget director and chief of staff, to withhold the aid before his july 25th phone call, and it had been 3 months SINCE IT HAD BEEN APPROVED BY THE PENTAGON!! only fools believe Ukraine did not know the aid was being held up if 3 months had gone by!! so Trump makes his phone call, says Ukraine owes us a favor, though, and he instructs Zelensky to allow Rudy and Barr to help him uncover political dirt on biden from 3 years ago, not connected to any US foreign policy, but only for Trump's personal political gain....we know all this. it is in the phone call. we know mulvaney said the aid was withheld to force Ukraine to look back into what happened in 2016. we have the video. and sondland the same thing.

did you somehow miss this GAO report, the bi-partisan General Accounting Office report, that republicans rely on and democrats. that is why it is called bi-partisan...kind of like a report from the Labor Dept. or the CBO....both parties rely on their reports....from Fox-

GAO says Trump administration broke law by withholding Ukraine aid

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gao-says-trump-admin-broke-law-ukraine
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
The UK minsters is still under Trump's thumb. He has never stopped trying to pressure them. How long ago was it Rudy when it reported that Rudy was still up to his hi jinks, 2 weeks ago ?
Yes. All evil, all of them. In cahoots with the evil right

No others on this Earth not in alignment with the crazed can be trusted.

When through...they will need to purge all these evil from UK from Ukraine from wherever...that would dare not align.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
of course Parnas is untrustworthy!! look at who he hung around with, who he worked for in Ukraine, who gave him access to authorities in both Ukraine and the top Republicans in this country as all the videos and pictures show!! like Parnas said, why should anyone in authority agree to meet with him? except he was connected to Rudy and Trump, and that gave him access to all these major power players so he could help Giuliani make deals and help trump get Ukraine to announce an investigation into biden and crowdstrike from 3 years ago or not get their vital military aid the GAO recently ruled Trump illegally withheld to use as the quid pro quo....

but just like with every other trial, or investigation, the cops, the prosecutors, the judges, the juries know that criminals tend to hang around with other criminals, or at least sleazy, untrustworthy types, so they listen to their testimony- THEN VERIFY....we know trump is a lying piece of shit, for example. so when he denies all this stuff, you have to believe he is lying...but, if he did let rudy or pompeo or bolton or rick perry or mulvaney testify under oath and they could somehow if not prove him not guilty, at least make it somewhat reasonable to doubt the slam dunk case against him right now, then we would have to at least give him the benefit of the doubt.

can any trump defender give an explanation for why Parnas had such access to really high level Ukrainians if he was not acting with Rudy and Trump at their direction and the Ukrainians knew it? Like your source the current Ukrainian foreign minister- why should he even know Parnas, much less have been around him enough to not trust him, and by extension Rudy, since they worked together in Ukraine?

And trump and McCarthy and Jared and nunes....why should a relatively obscure nobody like Parnas be hanging around all these high up Trump stooges and cronies and Trump himself, if he was not working with Rudy which gave him that access?
All are guilty that do not align to the one world view. o_O
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
you seem very confused about how monies authorized by congress, especially any concerning military aid, are vetted and the president is not part of that process as the GAO recently ruled. The vital military aid was authorized by Congress in February, the Pentagon held it up while it vetted Ukraine and made sure it was stable and secure enough to receive any military aid, and that it would be in safe hands...they released the aid in April.....AT THAT TIME IT HAD BEEN VETTED AS MUCH AS THE LAW PROVIDES. but trump told his lackey Mulvaney, his budget director and chief of staff, to withhold the aid before his july 25th phone call, and it had been 3 months SINCE IT HAD BEEN APPROVED BY THE PENTAGON!! only fools believe Ukraine did not know the aid was being held up if 3 months had gone by!! so Trump makes his phone call, says Ukraine owes us a favor, though, and he instructs Zelensky to allow Rudy and Barr to help him uncover political dirt on biden from 3 years ago, not connected to any US foreign policy, but only for Trump's personal political gain....we know all this. it is in the phone call. we know mulvaney said the aid was withheld to force Ukraine to look back into what happened in 2016. we have the video. and sondland the same thing.

did you somehow miss this GAO report, the bi-partisan General Accounting Office report, that republicans rely on and democrats. that is why it is called bi-partisan...kind of like a report from the Labor Dept. or the CBO....both parties rely on their reports....from Fox-

GAO says Trump administration broke law by withholding Ukraine aid

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gao-says-trump-admin-broke-law-ukraine
I am not confused, and understand the situation.

All who are not the one group think are evil!

Heil!
 

Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
Why do you say that it is sinking? Because a Trump defender says Parnas is lying and he believes the guy who said that? I doubt if anyone here ever heard of the guy who said Parnas is lying. Wishful thinking can always cover trump's lying fat ass.

Actually- it was proven Parnas was lying LOL
 

Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
you seem very confused about how monies authorized by congress, especially any concerning military aid, are vetted and the president is not part of that process as the GAO recently ruled. The vital military aid was authorized by Congress in February, the Pentagon held it up while it vetted Ukraine and made sure it was stable and secure enough to receive any military aid, and that it would be in safe hands...they released the aid in April.....AT THAT TIME IT HAD BEEN VETTED AS MUCH AS THE LAW PROVIDES. but trump told his lackey Mulvaney, his budget director and chief of staff, to withhold the aid before his july 25th phone call, and it had been 3 months SINCE IT HAD BEEN APPROVED BY THE PENTAGON!! only fools believe Ukraine did not know the aid was being held up if 3 months had gone by!! so Trump makes his phone call, says Ukraine owes us a favor, though, and he instructs Zelensky to allow Rudy and Barr to help him uncover political dirt on biden from 3 years ago, not connected to any US foreign policy, but only for Trump's personal political gain....we know all this. it is in the phone call. we know mulvaney said the aid was withheld to force Ukraine to look back into what happened in 2016. we have the video. and sondland the same thing.

did you somehow miss this GAO report, the bi-partisan General Accounting Office report, that republicans rely on and democrats. that is why it is called bi-partisan...kind of like a report from the Labor Dept. or the CBO....both parties rely on their reports....from Fox-

GAO says Trump administration broke law by withholding Ukraine aid

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gao-says-trump-admin-broke-law-ukraine


Old story and already dead.

How meaningless ? Remember ?
WASHINGTON—The Obama administration violated the law when it failed to give Congress adequate notice about the transfer of five detainees from Guantanamo Bay as part of a swap for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, the investigative arm of Congress said Thursday.


This latest GAO decision is meaningless.
It isn’t legally binding and even if it were, the remedies are administrative in nature. The left and the media are simply gaslighting the public by pretending otherwise.
 

llovejim

Current Champion
I am not confused, and understand the situation.

All who are not the one group think are evil!

Heil!
if you are not confused why do you keep trying to defend trump? why do you not believe mulvaney and sondland when he said trump used the aid to bribe Ukraine? why do you not believe the GAO said trump committed a crime when he withheld the money to use as blackmail? why do you keep spewing goofy shit?
Old story and already dead.

How meaningless ? Remember ?
WASHINGTON—The Obama administration violated the law when it failed to give Congress adequate notice about the transfer of five detainees from Guantanamo Bay as part of a swap for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, the investigative arm of Congress said Thursday.


This latest GAO decision is meaningless.
It isn’t legally binding and even if it were, the remedies are administrative in nature. The left and the media are simply gaslighting the public by pretending otherwise.
it is meaningless to trump stooges who believe if trump breaks the law it is okay, even if it used to bribe an ally threatened by russia by withholding vital military aid to bribe Ukraine to investigate irrelevant shit from 2016 for trump's supposed political gain!! if obama somehow did not give congress adequate notice, whatever that means, how did that help him politically? was it used to bribe another country so Obama could personally gain? do you even see what your stupid shit irrelevant "but what about obama" deflection has nothing to do with impeaching and removing [Unwelcome language removed] liar trump?
 

llovejim

Current Champion
All are guilty that do not align to the one world view. o_O
what a copout. like a true trump defender!! screw the facts, i will just spew irrelevant bullshit!! here was the question you avoided like a typical trump defender afraid of the truth or even afraid to try and give a reasonable answer-

can any trump defender give an explanation for why Parnas had such access to really high level Ukrainians if he was not acting with Rudy and Trump at their direction and the Ukrainians knew it? Like your source the current Ukrainian foreign minister- why should he even know Parnas, much less have been around him enough to not trust him, and by extension Rudy, since they worked together in Ukraine?

And trump and McCarthy and Jared and nunes....why should a relatively obscure nobody like Parnas be hanging around all these high up Trump stooges and cronies and Trump himself, if he was not working with Rudy which gave him that access?
 
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