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Psychiatry group tells members they can defy ‘Goldwater rule’ and comment on Trump’s mental health

Addy

Rebuild With Biden!
This is definitely a good thing. imo. All other medical professionals can make comments/observations regarding medical problems of a public official as long they specify, it's an opinion based without having actually examining the person. Now, this allows psychiatrists to analyze public figures in the same manner.

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A leading psychiatry group has told its members they should not feel bound by a longstanding rule against commenting publicly on the mental state of public figures — even the president.

The statement, an email this month from the executive committee of the American Psychoanalytic Association to its 3,500 members, represents the first significant crack in the profession’s decades-old united front aimed at preventing experts from discussing the psychiatric aspects of politicians’ behavior. It will likely make many of its members feel more comfortable speaking openly about President Trump’s mental health.

The impetus for the email was “belief in the value of psychoanalytic knowledge in explaining human behavior,” said psychoanalytic association past president Dr. Prudence Gourguechon, a psychiatrist in Chicago. “We don’t want to prohibit our members from using their knowledge responsibly.”

That responsibility is especially great today, she told STAT, “since Trump’s behavior is so different from anything we’ve seen before” in a commander in chief.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/psychiatry-group-tells-members-they-can-defy-‘goldwater-rule’-and-comment-on-trump’s-mental-health/ar-AAoNMWe?li=BBnbcA1


An increasing number of psychologists and psychiatrists have denounced the restriction as a “gag rule” and flouted it, with some arguing they have a “duty to warn” the public about what they see as Trump’s narcissism, impulsivity, poor attention span, paranoia, and other traits that, they believe, impair his ability to lead.
 
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Corruptbuddha

Governor
Liberals love new ways to undermine the president. One wonders if this new policy will transfer over to the next Democrat president. I doubt it.
 

Addy

Rebuild With Biden!
Liberals love new ways to undermine the president. One wonders if this new policy will transfer over to the next Democrat president. I doubt it.

Don't blame the liberals for Trump's unhinged, unpredictable behavior.
I am in favor of it carrying over no matter which political party is in office.
 

Addy

Rebuild With Biden!
Not in the pages of MSN it hasn't.

The psychoanalytic association went further. In its July 6 email, it explicitly stated for the first time that the organization does not subscribe to the rule. That position had been implicit for years, but the association’s “leadership has been extremely reluctant to make a statement and publicly challenge the American Psychiatric Association,” said one psychoanalytic association member who asked not to be publicly identified criticizing the other group.

The Goldwater rule has long been odd in that violating it carries no penalties. In principle the psychiatric association could file a complaint with a member’s state medical board. That has apparently never happened. Nor has the association ejected a member for violating the Goldwater rule. That is something it, as a private association, would be legally permitted to do.

A state agency, however, is subject to the U.S. Constitution, civil liberties experts say, and penalizing psychiatrists for speaking out would likely be a violation of their First Amendment rights.
 
The psychoanalytic association went further. In its July 6 email, it explicitly stated for the first time that the organization does not subscribe to the rule. That position had been implicit for years, but the association’s “leadership has been extremely reluctant to make a statement and publicly challenge the American Psychiatric Association,” said one psychoanalytic association member who asked not to be publicly identified criticizing the other group.

The Goldwater rule has long been odd in that violating it carries no penalties. In principle the psychiatric association could file a complaint with a member’s state medical board. That has apparently never happened. Nor has the association ejected a member for violating the Goldwater rule. That is something it, as a private association, would be legally permitted to do.

A state agency, however, is subject to the U.S. Constitution, civil liberties experts say, and penalizing psychiatrists for speaking out would likely be a violation of their First Amendment rights.
Exactly. Anonymous "sources" and suspicious timing. The hallmarks of your Fakestream media. Enjoy the decline!
 

Addy

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Exactly. Anonymous "sources" and suspicious timing. The hallmarks of your Fakestream media. Enjoy the decline!
So, would you agree or disagree that expert psychiatrists are capable of making an accurate diagnosis of Trump(be it from afar) solely by observing his ongoing behavioral traits?
 

Corruptbuddha

Governor
Don't blame the liberals for Trump's unhinged, unpredictable behavior.
I am in favor of it carrying over no matter which political party is in office.
Unpredictable doesn't mean unhinged. And I'll bet dollars to donuts that the 'gag order' will be in full effect as soon as a Democrat hits the White House.
 

Corruptbuddha

Governor
What does it mean to you?



I hope not.
It means not doing things by rote. Doing things a different way than has been done before. Not following the dogma. All are unpredictable and not necessarily unhinged.

And you know as well as I that it will.
 

Corruptbuddha

Governor
I understand the reasoning behind the Goldwater rule. Yet doctors in other fields of medicine -- without examining public figures, often weigh in. But they do have to clarify, they haven't personally examined that particular person.
Any doctor giving his/her opinion without actually examining the patient, is a quack.
 

Addy

Rebuild With Biden!
All are unpredictable and not necessarily unhinged.

unhinge
/ʌnˈhɪndʒ/
verb (transitive)
1.
to remove (a door, gate, etc) from its hinges
2.
to derange or unbalance (a person, his mind, etc)

a disturbance in physical or mental health or functions; malady or dysfunction:

unhinge
v.
recorded earlier in the mental sense of "to disorder" the mind, etc. (1612)

unpredictable
Synonyms
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1. erratic, fitful, variable, uncertain.
 
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