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Question for liberals regarding abortion and the current enthusiasm for it

Dino

Russian Asset
Hell enthusiasm, this is literal cheerleading for it.

So the question is essentially a two-parter:
1. Is abortion sad and regrettable, should the numbers of them be minimized or is the current theme on abortion normal, good and to be celebrated?
2. If Michelle Wolf and other radicals get more press and the enthusiastic abortion crowd gathers steam is it better or worse overall for the Democratic party?

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/abortion-cheerleaders-realize-science-is-not-on-their-side/

Is abortion a sad and unfortunate reality — regrettable, as we are sometimes told, but often necessary — or is it a breezy nothingburger, completely “normal,” and something to be giddily celebrated like a last-minute NFL touchdown? For a long time, the abortion lobby has had difficulty deciding. This summer, it seems that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh — and the rising feverish chatter surrounding the possible demise of Roe v. Wade — might just push the pro-abortion movement over the edge.


By now perhaps you’ve seen the horror show cooked up by Michelle Wolf, the Netflix star best known for her viral and cringeworthy White House Correspondents’ Dinner speech this spring. Man, does this lady love abortion. She also loves wheeling out abortion “jokes” like this: “Mike Pence is very anti-choice. He thinks abortion is murder, which, first of all, don’t knock it till you try it! And when you do try it, really knock it. You know, you’ve got to get that baby out of there.”

Her audience — and here one could perhaps write a dissertation on the distressing and sheep-like behavior of people granted seats at painfully unfunny Netflix talk shows — cheered.

Whether or not Ms. Wolf is actually a top-secret sleeper agent for the pro-life cause, plotting to repel America’s more middle-of-the-road pro-choice voters — and the more over-the-top she gets, the more I suspect that this might be the case — she’s not alone, nor is she some fringe can’t-make-it-up character. Remember “safe, legal, and rare?” Forget it. The “let’s celebrate abortion” movement is growing and strong.

Two current viral campaigns, called “Shout Your Abortion” and “#OneInFour,” suggest that abortion is an unquestionable good. The Shout Your Abortion website broadcasts this trendy creed, loud and strident and clear: “Abortion is normal. Our stories are ours to tell. This is not a debate.” The group’s website also provides the option to buy a T-shirt telling the world that you’re proud of your abortion, or even purchase an “Abortion Is Freedom” button that might make Orwell cringe.

The #OneInFour campaign, backed by groups such as Planned Parenthood and NARAL, has inspired a series of high-profile women to testify to the power of their own abortions. Based off an estimate from the Guttmacher Institute that one in four women will have an abortion by age 45, the campaign’s message is simple: A lot of people have abortions, so abortion is okay. If you extend this particular illogical train, abortion should really never be questioned: If you’re a woman, and you’re pregnant, there is no party to consider but yourself. “We don’t need anything more complicated than an individual woman’s wish about her body and her life,” one testimony goes.

Ah. Except it is more complicated, and everyone knows it — especially women who have been pregnant.

I’m pro-life. I’ve seen ultrasounds pick up a heartbeat at seven weeks. Thanks to incredible and continuous advances in science, medicine, and technology, women are getting an increasingly detailed look, earlier and earlier, at what pregnancy actually entails: a new life, right from the start.

In this lens, perhaps the remarkably tone-deaf behavior erupting from today’s leading abortion advocates is easily explainable: It stems from the sublimated panic born of the realization that science is not on their side. Moreover, there’s likely a simple reason the pro-abortion movement has lurched in the direction of “abortion is normal and good, hooray!” while backing away from “abortion is sad and regrettable, but necessary.” If you admit that abortion is sad and regrettable, after all, you also have to admit why that is so. You have to admit that it involves a new human life.

This ramped-up rhetoric and bizarre abortion cheerleading, in other words, reflects a calculated attempt to avoid difficult truths. One thing is certain: In the end, it certainly won’t help women. Dishonesty never does, no matter how many times you repeat it.
 

AIL

Jet fuel that's a good one.
Hell enthusiasm, this is literal cheerleading for it.

So the question is essentially a two-parter:
1. Is abortion sad and regrettable, should the numbers of them be minimized or is the current theme on abortion normal, good and to be celebrated?
2. If Michelle Wolf and other radicals get more press and the enthusiastic abortion crowd gathers steam is it better or worse overall for the Democratic party?

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/abortion-cheerleaders-realize-science-is-not-on-their-side/

Is abortion a sad and unfortunate reality — regrettable, as we are sometimes told, but often necessary — or is it a breezy nothingburger, completely “normal,” and something to be giddily celebrated like a last-minute NFL touchdown? For a long time, the abortion lobby has had difficulty deciding. This summer, it seems that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh — and the rising feverish chatter surrounding the possible demise of Roe v. Wade — might just push the pro-abortion movement over the edge.


By now perhaps you’ve seen the horror show cooked up by Michelle Wolf, the Netflix star best known for her viral and cringeworthy White House Correspondents’ Dinner speech this spring. Man, does this lady love abortion. She also loves wheeling out abortion “jokes” like this: “Mike Pence is very anti-choice. He thinks abortion is murder, which, first of all, don’t knock it till you try it! And when you do try it, really knock it. You know, you’ve got to get that baby out of there.”

Her audience — and here one could perhaps write a dissertation on the distressing and sheep-like behavior of people granted seats at painfully unfunny Netflix talk shows — cheered.

Whether or not Ms. Wolf is actually a top-secret sleeper agent for the pro-life cause, plotting to repel America’s more middle-of-the-road pro-choice voters — and the more over-the-top she gets, the more I suspect that this might be the case — she’s not alone, nor is she some fringe can’t-make-it-up character. Remember “safe, legal, and rare?” Forget it. The “let’s celebrate abortion” movement is growing and strong.

Two current viral campaigns, called “Shout Your Abortion” and “#OneInFour,” suggest that abortion is an unquestionable good. The Shout Your Abortion website broadcasts this trendy creed, loud and strident and clear: “Abortion is normal. Our stories are ours to tell. This is not a debate.” The group’s website also provides the option to buy a T-shirt telling the world that you’re proud of your abortion, or even purchase an “Abortion Is Freedom” button that might make Orwell cringe.

The #OneInFour campaign, backed by groups such as Planned Parenthood and NARAL, has inspired a series of high-profile women to testify to the power of their own abortions. Based off an estimate from the Guttmacher Institute that one in four women will have an abortion by age 45, the campaign’s message is simple: A lot of people have abortions, so abortion is okay. If you extend this particular illogical train, abortion should really never be questioned: If you’re a woman, and you’re pregnant, there is no party to consider but yourself. “We don’t need anything more complicated than an individual woman’s wish about her body and her life,” one testimony goes.

Ah. Except it is more complicated, and everyone knows it — especially women who have been pregnant.

I’m pro-life. I’ve seen ultrasounds pick up a heartbeat at seven weeks. Thanks to incredible and continuous advances in science, medicine, and technology, women are getting an increasingly detailed look, earlier and earlier, at what pregnancy actually entails: a new life, right from the start.

In this lens, perhaps the remarkably tone-deaf behavior erupting from today’s leading abortion advocates is easily explainable: It stems from the sublimated panic born of the realization that science is not on their side. Moreover, there’s likely a simple reason the pro-abortion movement has lurched in the direction of “abortion is normal and good, hooray!” while backing away from “abortion is sad and regrettable, but necessary.” If you admit that abortion is sad and regrettable, after all, you also have to admit why that is so. You have to admit that it involves a new human life.

This ramped-up rhetoric and bizarre abortion cheerleading, in other words, reflects a calculated attempt to avoid difficult truths. One thing is certain: In the end, it certainly won’t help women. Dishonesty never does, no matter how many times you repeat it.

So you are against abortion because it is murder but you are pro war and supported the Vietnam war, the bombing of Cambodia and Laos the invasion of Afghanistan, the Iraq war you current war in Yemen supporting and arming the Saudis supporting the Syrian so called moderate rebels and arming ISIS while saying ASSAD Must go..

Blind support for Israel at the expense of the Palestinians you keep protecting this terrorist state.. America has killed millions of innocent people killed for nothing but your regime change and a fucked up foreign policy that oppresses other nations and its people BUT you have no problem with these crimes against humanity .

If you are so conserved about the evils of abortion you would think that you would be also be concerned about America's needless wars of aggression.
Please stop the crocodile tears about abortion its very hypocritical.
 

Dino

Russian Asset
So you are against abortion because it is murder but you are pro war and supported the Vietnam war, the bombing of Cambodia and Laos the invasion of Afghanistan, the Iraq war you current war in Yemen supporting and arming the Saudis supporting the Syrian so called moderate rebels and arming ISIS while saying ASSAD Must go..

Blind support for Israel at the expense of the Palestinians you keep protecting this terrorist state.. America has killed millions of innocent people killed for nothing but your regime change and a fucked up foreign policy that oppresses other nations and its people BUT you have no problem with these crimes against humanity .

If you are so conserved about the evils of abortion you would think that you would be also be concerned about America's needless wars of aggression.
Please stop the crocodile tears about abortion its very hypocritical.
I asked two simple questions.
There's really no cause to fly off the handle with (wrong) presumptions and mindless accusations.
Care to address the topic?
 

AIL

Jet fuel that's a good one.
I asked two simple questions.
There's really no cause to fly off the handle with (wrong) presumptions and mindless accusations.
Care to address the topic?
No America murders millions of innocent people and that does not bother you at all

Abortion in America does not bother me at all. We are even.
 

Dino

Russian Asset
No America murders millions of innocent people and that does not bother you at all

Abortion in America does not bother me at all. We are even.
I’m pro-choice so this isn’t about comparisons and death tolls.

Does celebrating abortions draw more positive attention or negative attention to the Democratic Party?
 

AIL

Jet fuel that's a good one.
I’m pro-choice so this isn’t about comparisons and death tolls.

Does celebrating abortions draw more positive attention or negative attention to the Democratic Party?
I don't care about abortion in the USA I care about needless murder out side of USA caused by USA.
 

4/15

Mayor
I do not see enthusiasm for Abortion. The concept is a womens choice. As a man is very seldom concerned about a new addition to the family or even the human race. I would say that masturbation is a bigger cause of death for human life than even wars.
 

Dino

Russian Asset
I do not see enthusiasm for Abortion. The concept is a womens choice. As a man is very seldom concerned about a new addition to the family or even the human race. I would say that masturbation is a bigger cause of death for human life than even wars.
Do you think Michelle Wolf is having an overall negative effect on the political debate?
Worth asking when you start to see her antics on display in GOP ads.
 

4/15

Mayor
Do you think Michelle Wolf is having an overall negative effect on the political debate?
Worth asking when you start to see her antics on display in GOP ads.
I do not pay attention to GOP ads. As for the person she is doing what she wants.
 

Dino

Russian Asset
I do not pay attention to GOP ads. As for the person she is doing what she wants.
And making the Dem party look like a bunch of blood-drenched heathens in the process.
She should continue to promote abortion is barbaric ways. It’s a real turn off to the mainstream.
 

Winston

Do you feel lucky, Punk
Hell enthusiasm, this is literal cheerleading for it.

So the question is essentially a two-parter:
1. Is abortion sad and regrettable, should the numbers of them be minimized or is the current theme on abortion normal, good and to be celebrated?
2. If Michelle Wolf and other radicals get more press and the enthusiastic abortion crowd gathers steam is it better or worse overall for the Democratic party?

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/abortion-cheerleaders-realize-science-is-not-on-their-side/

Is abortion a sad and unfortunate reality — regrettable, as we are sometimes told, but often necessary — or is it a breezy nothingburger, completely “normal,” and something to be giddily celebrated like a last-minute NFL touchdown? For a long time, the abortion lobby has had difficulty deciding. This summer, it seems that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh — and the rising feverish chatter surrounding the possible demise of Roe v. Wade — might just push the pro-abortion movement over the edge.


By now perhaps you’ve seen the horror show cooked up by Michelle Wolf, the Netflix star best known for her viral and cringeworthy White House Correspondents’ Dinner speech this spring. Man, does this lady love abortion. She also loves wheeling out abortion “jokes” like this: “Mike Pence is very anti-choice. He thinks abortion is murder, which, first of all, don’t knock it till you try it! And when you do try it, really knock it. You know, you’ve got to get that baby out of there.”

Her audience — and here one could perhaps write a dissertation on the distressing and sheep-like behavior of people granted seats at painfully unfunny Netflix talk shows — cheered.

Whether or not Ms. Wolf is actually a top-secret sleeper agent for the pro-life cause, plotting to repel America’s more middle-of-the-road pro-choice voters — and the more over-the-top she gets, the more I suspect that this might be the case — she’s not alone, nor is she some fringe can’t-make-it-up character. Remember “safe, legal, and rare?” Forget it. The “let’s celebrate abortion” movement is growing and strong.

Two current viral campaigns, called “Shout Your Abortion” and “#OneInFour,” suggest that abortion is an unquestionable good. The Shout Your Abortion website broadcasts this trendy creed, loud and strident and clear: “Abortion is normal. Our stories are ours to tell. This is not a debate.” The group’s website also provides the option to buy a T-shirt telling the world that you’re proud of your abortion, or even purchase an “Abortion Is Freedom” button that might make Orwell cringe.

The #OneInFour campaign, backed by groups such as Planned Parenthood and NARAL, has inspired a series of high-profile women to testify to the power of their own abortions. Based off an estimate from the Guttmacher Institute that one in four women will have an abortion by age 45, the campaign’s message is simple: A lot of people have abortions, so abortion is okay. If you extend this particular illogical train, abortion should really never be questioned: If you’re a woman, and you’re pregnant, there is no party to consider but yourself. “We don’t need anything more complicated than an individual woman’s wish about her body and her life,” one testimony goes.

Ah. Except it is more complicated, and everyone knows it — especially women who have been pregnant.

I’m pro-life. I’ve seen ultrasounds pick up a heartbeat at seven weeks. Thanks to incredible and continuous advances in science, medicine, and technology, women are getting an increasingly detailed look, earlier and earlier, at what pregnancy actually entails: a new life, right from the start.

In this lens, perhaps the remarkably tone-deaf behavior erupting from today’s leading abortion advocates is easily explainable: It stems from the sublimated panic born of the realization that science is not on their side. Moreover, there’s likely a simple reason the pro-abortion movement has lurched in the direction of “abortion is normal and good, hooray!” while backing away from “abortion is sad and regrettable, but necessary.” If you admit that abortion is sad and regrettable, after all, you also have to admit why that is so. You have to admit that it involves a new human life.

This ramped-up rhetoric and bizarre abortion cheerleading, in other words, reflects a calculated attempt to avoid difficult truths. One thing is certain: In the end, it certainly won’t help women. Dishonesty never does, no matter how many times you repeat it.
Abortion is a great thing, as Hillary Clinton aborted all of Bills kids

Gotta love that
 

Spamature

President
Hell enthusiasm, this is literal cheerleading for it.

So the question is essentially a two-parter:
1. Is abortion sad and regrettable, should the numbers of them be minimized or is the current theme on abortion normal, good and to be celebrated?
2. If Michelle Wolf and other radicals get more press and the enthusiastic abortion crowd gathers steam is it better or worse overall for the Democratic party?

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/abortion-cheerleaders-realize-science-is-not-on-their-side/

Is abortion a sad and unfortunate reality — regrettable, as we are sometimes told, but often necessary — or is it a breezy nothingburger, completely “normal,” and something to be giddily celebrated like a last-minute NFL touchdown? For a long time, the abortion lobby has had difficulty deciding. This summer, it seems that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh — and the rising feverish chatter surrounding the possible demise of Roe v. Wade — might just push the pro-abortion movement over the edge.


By now perhaps you’ve seen the horror show cooked up by Michelle Wolf, the Netflix star best known for her viral and cringeworthy White House Correspondents’ Dinner speech this spring. Man, does this lady love abortion. She also loves wheeling out abortion “jokes” like this: “Mike Pence is very anti-choice. He thinks abortion is murder, which, first of all, don’t knock it till you try it! And when you do try it, really knock it. You know, you’ve got to get that baby out of there.”

Her audience — and here one could perhaps write a dissertation on the distressing and sheep-like behavior of people granted seats at painfully unfunny Netflix talk shows — cheered.

Whether or not Ms. Wolf is actually a top-secret sleeper agent for the pro-life cause, plotting to repel America’s more middle-of-the-road pro-choice voters — and the more over-the-top she gets, the more I suspect that this might be the case — she’s not alone, nor is she some fringe can’t-make-it-up character. Remember “safe, legal, and rare?” Forget it. The “let’s celebrate abortion” movement is growing and strong.

Two current viral campaigns, called “Shout Your Abortion” and “#OneInFour,” suggest that abortion is an unquestionable good. The Shout Your Abortion website broadcasts this trendy creed, loud and strident and clear: “Abortion is normal. Our stories are ours to tell. This is not a debate.” The group’s website also provides the option to buy a T-shirt telling the world that you’re proud of your abortion, or even purchase an “Abortion Is Freedom” button that might make Orwell cringe.

The #OneInFour campaign, backed by groups such as Planned Parenthood and NARAL, has inspired a series of high-profile women to testify to the power of their own abortions. Based off an estimate from the Guttmacher Institute that one in four women will have an abortion by age 45, the campaign’s message is simple: A lot of people have abortions, so abortion is okay. If you extend this particular illogical train, abortion should really never be questioned: If you’re a woman, and you’re pregnant, there is no party to consider but yourself. “We don’t need anything more complicated than an individual woman’s wish about her body and her life,” one testimony goes.

Ah. Except it is more complicated, and everyone knows it — especially women who have been pregnant.

I’m pro-life. I’ve seen ultrasounds pick up a heartbeat at seven weeks. Thanks to incredible and continuous advances in science, medicine, and technology, women are getting an increasingly detailed look, earlier and earlier, at what pregnancy actually entails: a new life, right from the start.

In this lens, perhaps the remarkably tone-deaf behavior erupting from today’s leading abortion advocates is easily explainable: It stems from the sublimated panic born of the realization that science is not on their side. Moreover, there’s likely a simple reason the pro-abortion movement has lurched in the direction of “abortion is normal and good, hooray!” while backing away from “abortion is sad and regrettable, but necessary.” If you admit that abortion is sad and regrettable, after all, you also have to admit why that is so. You have to admit that it involves a new human life.

This ramped-up rhetoric and bizarre abortion cheerleading, in other words, reflects a calculated attempt to avoid difficult truths. One thing is certain: In the end, it certainly won’t help women. Dishonesty never does, no matter how many times you repeat it.
No it won't hurt them with anyone but hypocrites.
 

Constitutional Sheepdog

][][][%er!!!!!!!
I do not see enthusiasm for Abortion. The concept is a womens choice. As a man is very seldom concerned about a new addition to the family or even the human race. I would say that masturbation is a bigger cause of death for human life than even wars.
Why is suicide illegal isn't it a personal choice to do to your body as your, please?
 
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