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Republican States More Dependent On Federal Funds

Discussion in 'Latest Political News and Current Events' started by OldTrapper, Apr 17, 2019.

  1. OldTrapper

    OldTrapper Council Member

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    New study just out, but no surprise:

    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/states-dependent-federal-government-180735773.html

    States that voted Democrat in 2016 generally rely less on federal funding than Republican states, according to a study by WalletHub.

    The analysis looked at the return on taxes paid to the federal government, the share of federal jobs, and federal funding as a share of state revenue.

    Thirteen out of the top 15 states found to be most dependent on the federal government voted for President Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential election. Ten out of the 15 least dependent states voted for Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.
     
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  2. JuliefromOhio

    JuliefromOhio Senator Supporting Member

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    In terms of gross domestic product (GDP) per capita, Massachusetts ranked first, followed by New York, Alaska, North Dakota, and Wyoming. On the other end of the spectrum, Mississippi is the lowest, followed by Arkansas, West Virginia, Idaho, and Alabama.

    Veuger noted that “all the poor states are red. Mississippi and Louisiana get a lot of Medicaid money.”
     
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  3. The Thinker

    The Thinker Over The Top Abuser

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    I love it when you give enough to make a fool of you. DC has a per capita GDP about 2.5 times that of Massachusetts.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP_per_capita

    They must be really really productive in DC, right?

    Now take off that dunce cap and THINK... what else could it be?
     
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  4. llovejim

    llovejim Current Champion

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    they are productive enough to know they are not a state.
     
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  5. The Thinker

    The Thinker Over The Top Abuser

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    Irrelevant. However, I will mark you down as unable to address the point.
     
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  6. OldTrapper

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    Maybe you should try to read, and understand, what was written in the article. Till then you are just making the usual ass of yourself.
     
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  7. Mick

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    This has already been debunked. When a state has low income tax and runs low budgets (like in red states) then federal funds will make a disproportionate of state "revenue" and "expenditures". A far better gauge is real dollars per capita federal spending. Those that spend the most federal dollars per capita are: Washington DC, Hawaii, Alaska, Maryland, Virginia, New Mexico, North Dakota, Washington, and Colorado. Seven of the nine voted for Hillary Clinton. Red states actually use LESS federal dollars. They just tax less and spend less (and have less debt) therefore those dollars they do get federally make up a larger portion of the overall budget and revenues. And voila.....your alt-left propaganda was born.

    https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/resear...briefs/2014/12/federal-spending-in-the-states

    Left wing, dummy.

    Now you want to compare poverty and homelessness: https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-california-poverty-20180114-story.html

    Ouch!
     
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  8. resident_evil

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    Same leftist study that never shows its work. Needs links to spread sheets of data to download.

    Here is the wallethub study and basically the ratios it promotes as dependency rankers are simply obtuse.

    https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/

    THE FIRST THING STATES SHOULD DO IS CHARGE PROPERTY TAX TO THE FEDERAL GOVT. FOR THE LAND IT OWNS IN THOSE STATES.
     
  9. resident_evil

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    It isn't a homelessness problem as much as it is a drug addiction problem. Just making it about homelessness instead ignores the problem is larger than just buying everyone a brand new home but also having to rehab them too. Tragic really.
     
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  10. The Thinker

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    Mississippi had the most blacks per capita than any other state. Louisiana comes in second. Just say you hate black people and save some time.

    Come on, Droolie. Let that hate out. It'll do you good.


    Says the guy who does nothing but copy and paste the thoughts of others.
     
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  11. llovejim

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    Last I heard, but that was before Trump assumed, and I mean assumed, office, black people were part of this country, even if most trump voters did not want to admit it. If a state is run badly, where they do not balance the budget, where their schools rank near the bottom, where infant mortality rates are the highest, where dropout rates are near the highest, where teen age pregnancy rates are near the highest, where adult illiteracy rates are near the highest, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY- where taxes are the most regressive and the rich and big corporations do not pay their fair share to help fund necessary programs, according to you, it is because there are more black people there, not because of dumbass incompetent republican governors and legislators who are actually responsible for these funked up policies?

    Just how racist do you want to be? What does the skin color of a large percentage of the people in a state have to do with the politics and policies of those who run the state? You are the bigoted piece of shit tying bad state policies to how many black people there are in these former rebel red states, and they are not the ones in charge, since IT IS ALMOST ALL REPUBLICAN- GET IT, BIGOTED JACKASS?

    huff gasoline.
     
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    Statistics are not bigoted. Julie IS. Her racism is well-known on this board. That is specifically why she mentioned Medicaid. Now kick that huffing habit. I'm rootin' for you.

    Oh but how much more do you think YOU should be paying?
     
  13. The Thinker

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    BAM! You'd think DC BY FAR having the highest GDP pretty capita, they'd have scratched their pointed heads and figured it out. But then again, this is an issue that requires an IQ at least in the high double digits to grasp. That rules out 99% of leftists.
     
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  14. llovejim

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    "Mick, post: 2396895, member: 26880"]
    This has already been debunked. When a state has low income tax and runs low budgets (like in red states) then federal funds will make a disproportionate of state "revenue" and "expenditures". A far better gauge is real dollars per capita federal spending. Those that spend the most federal dollars per capita are: Washington DC, Hawaii, Alaska, Maryland, Virginia, New Mexico, North Dakota, Washington, and Colorado. Seven of the nine voted for Hillary Clinton. Red states actually use LESS federal dollars. They just tax less and spend less (and have less debt) therefore those dollars they do get federally make up a larger portion of the overall budget and revenues. And voila.....your alt-left propaganda was born. (what part of your ass did you pull that from, sonny? where is your source? the Pew Source clearly shows how red states dominate federal spending per GDP, that you dismiss, BUT YOU HAVE NO SOURCE FOR YOUR BULLSHIT, LITTLE FELLER. Think about how stupid your statement is- When a state has low income and low budgets, then federal funds MAKE A LARGER PERCENTAGE---total bullshit. if a state has low income and low budgets, it is because it has less people and less economy, meaning also less money needed for schools and cops and other programs, and the less need for federal funding if it is run as efficiently as the blue states!! you can't have it both ways!! the fairest way to analyze if states are net takers or net givers is like wallet hub did and like the link to pew you show below did. where is the link for the weird ass bullshit you just spewed? and if you want to just show how states rank using a per dollar in federal spending PER CAPITA, here ya go, at the bottom of this reply...it clearly shows basically the same results you cry about using pew and wallet hub analysis. ya big crybaby snowflake...truth hurts, huh?

    https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/resear...briefs/2014/12/federal-spending-in-the-states

    Left wing, dummy. (accurate and fact-filled, assclown

    suck on this, little man-

    What the resulting map shows is that the most “dependent states,” as measured by the composite score, are Mississippi and New Mexico, each of which gets back about $3 in federal spending for every dollar they send to the federal treasury in taxes. Alabama and Louisiana are close behind.

    If you look only at the first measure—how much the federal government spends per person in each state compared with the amount its citizens pay in federal income taxes—other states stand out, particularly South Carolina: The Palmetto State receives $7.87 back from Washington for every $1 its citizens pay in federal tax. This bar chart reveals the sharp discrepancies among states on that measure.
    (source- https://www.theatlantic.com/busines...tates-are-givers-and-which-are-takers/361668/ states per money given.

    Now you want to compare poverty and homelessness: https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-california-poverty-20180114-story.html

    (try to think....it will hurt at first, but you might get used to it...if you are a homeless person, a veteran alone, or with a family, where would you want to be homeless- California or Idaho? geez. even a trump voter ought to be able to figure out this brain teaser!! but even with the fact most homeless people tend to migrate to states with more compassion, more safety net programs, AND BETTER WEATHER, if you want to get into states with the highest poverty rates per capita- AGAIN IT IS THE RED STATES LEADING THE WAY!! terrible republican policies screw up everything!! )

    poverty rate by state.JPG




    Ouch![/QUOTE]
     
  15. bdtex

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    Generally speaking,that has been known for years.
     
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  16. Nutty Cortez

    Nutty Cortez Woot Woot !!!!!!

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    They recycle this same story every few years. Depending on who wins an election.

    BUT My tard base laps it up.

    A state could be Democrat for 100 years, but they flip one election and they are a 'republican state' lol

    Luckily my sycophants are too dumb to look this up.
     
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  17. Nutty Cortez

    Nutty Cortez Woot Woot !!!!!!

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    Yes, they are. Why? Because of the Democrats living in those states.

    If you actually take a closer look at the numbers, you will find that the Welfare hogs in red states are concentrated in blue counties.

    Take a look at this chart from the Citizen Scholar:


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    If you look at the 10 poorest red states, half of them have Democrat governors.
     
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