See, this is why I'm not a republican.

[middleview]

You asked me for an "alternative"- one I've already offered and simply makes more financial and logical sense than 0bama's. He had the power to enact change and fix things, he made them worse. 0bama and the rest of you fiends have started a dangerous and destructive precedent on illegal immigration. Something has to change that, and the left is going to bitch and cry over it.

I must not have read your post. I do not recall a suggestion from you related to an obamacare replacement.

What is the "dangerous precedent" you are talking about?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

There's certainly a large establishment wing of the GOP that will continue to act against the will of the people, as the Washington establishment has done for a long time.

We need sovereignty, individualism, and liberty promoted. Stop sliding slowly towards EU failed policies. The government won't save you, YOU save you. You take ownership of your life. In America, YOU can overcome odds. YOU have the opportunity to jump up the ranks of class economically, like nowhere else in the world.

Rankings Are Rancid

Liberals have always been agents of the Right Wing whose assignment was to purposely make government useless, insulting, and hostile to the will of the people. How about we take over the government? Absolute rule by the majority and repeal all laws that went against the will of the majority, starting with the Civil Rights for the Uncivilized Act of 1964 and Teddy Kennedy's Come One, Come All immigration bill. Class-climbers are no-talent brownnoses who climb a ladder of thorns set by the hereditary plutocracy. Their sons become Preppy Progressives.

 

[middleview]

Rankings Are Rancid

Liberals have always been agents of the Right Wing whose assignment was to purposely make government useless, insulting, and hostile to the will of the people. How about we take over the government? Absolute rule by the majority and repeal all laws that went against the will of the majority, starting with the Civil Rights for the Uncivilized Act of 1964 and Teddy Kennedy's Come One, Come All immigration bill. Class-climbers are no-talent brownnoses who climb a ladder of thorns set by the hereditary plutocracy. Their sons become Preppy Progressives.

Quick, call Trump (or tweet him)....Get him to back repeal of the 1964 Civil Rights act...that way he can speed right on down to 10% approval from his current 36%...might as well set records while he's the president...

 

[Dino]

I must not have read your post. I do not recall a suggestion from you related to an obamacare replacement.

What is the "dangerous precedent" you are talking about?

Sure, you asked for my alternative.

Sorry if I confused you on the "dangerous precedent" thing. That's what I use to refer to the unchecked cradle to grave big government giveaways to anyone, regardless of immigration status. I call that a dangerous leftist precedent, you likely refer to it as the status quo, the acceleration towards complete third-world status.

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

How many times did the House under Obama successfully vote to repeal Obamacare? 90 times? Then when the GOP gains control of the House, Senate, White House, several more governorships and tons more state level seats what happens? Repeal? No.

What happens is establishment RINOs send up some watered down Obamacare bullshit that maybe has the mandate or maybe doesn't and it doesn't really repeal Obamacare and well, not everything in Obamacare is bad and this and that. . .

And the GOP just ends up looking like a gang of masturbating chimpanzees.

Thank God for the Freedom Caucus! They seem to be the only ones with the backbone able to stop the socialism infecting both parties. We need to give them more seats.

It's the establishment Trump was just the beginning don't lose faith We've got to weed out the establishment.

 

[Boca]

How many times did the House under Obama successfully vote to repeal Obamacare? 90 times? Then when the GOP gains control of the House, Senate, White House, several more governorships and tons more state level seats what happens? Repeal? No.

What happens is establishment RINOs send up some watered down Obamacare bullshit that maybe has the mandate or maybe doesn't and it doesn't really repeal Obamacare and well, not everything in Obamacare is bad and this and that. . .

And the GOP just ends up looking like a gang of masturbating chimpanzees.

Thank God for the Freedom Caucus! They seem to be the only ones with the backbone able to stop the socialism infecting both parties. We need to give them more seats.

Obvious to me the #nevertrump Republican RINOS put together a bill they knew wouldn't pass the House so as to embarrass or undermine the President. Paul Ryan was one of them and still is! Had it by some miracle passed the House, #nevertrumpers in the Senate led by John McCain, his buddy Lindsey Graham and others would have killed it. The bill was no where close to repealing ObamaCare, it was if anything, more onerous. As you said, Thank God for the Freedom Caucus!

And if anyone thinks the goal wasn't to undermine or embarrass Trump, take a look at how the other rail of this plot jumped in to report it as a Trump "failure" when all he wanted to do was ease the pain on the middle class who are now becoming in many cases the new "uninsured", giving up on trying to pay doubled premiums and higher deductibles. Did Trump fail? That's what you are being asked to believe? You're not supposed to know that ObamaCare was foisted on us by lies and a unanimous Democrat vote and not a single Democrat vote was to be had to make any change to it! Yet it is now a Trump/Republican failure?

I'm telling you, there is no such thing as a "vast ring wing conspiracy", or vast left wing conspiracy, or a media conspiracy, they've joined forces. And the telltale traces of that are Mitch McConnell, John Boehner and other Republicans campaigning in 2012 to "stop Obama" and within three weeks after the election they give him everything he wanted.

 

[Dawg]

Quick, call Trump (or tweet him)....Get him to back repeal of the 1964 Civil Rights act...that way he can speed right on down to 10% approval from his current 36%...might as well set records while he's the president...

Dem/libs would love that since they voted against CRA in 64

 

[middleview]

Obvious to me the #nevertrump Republican RINOS put together a bill they knew wouldn't pass the House so as to embarrass or undermine the President. Paul Ryan was one of them and still is! Had it by some miracle passed the House, #nevertrumpers in the Senate led by John McCain, his buddy Lindsey Graham and others would have killed it. The bill was no where close to repealing ObamaCare, it was if anything, more onerous. As you said, Thank God for the Freedom Caucus!

And if anyone thinks the goal wasn't to undermine or embarrass Trump, take a look at how the other rail of this plot jumped in to report it as a Trump "failure" when all he wanted to do was ease the pain on the middle class who are now becoming in many cases the new "uninsured", giving up on trying to pay doubled premiums and higher deductibles. Did Trump fail? That's what you are being asked to believe? You're not supposed to know that ObamaCare was foisted on us by lies and a unanimous Democrat vote and not a single Democrat vote was to be had to make any change to it! Yet it is now a Trump/Republican failure?

I'm telling you, there is no such thing as a "vast ring wing conspiracy", or vast left wing conspiracy, or a media conspiracy, they've joined forces. And the telltale traces of that are Mitch McConnell, John Boehner and other Republicans campaigning in 2012 to "stop Obama" and within three weeks after the election they give him everything he wanted.

Which would be why the republicans set records for filibusters and had a record number of judges appointments left hanging for years....

 

[Dawg]

Which would be why the republicans set records for filibusters and had a record number of judges appointments left hanging for years....

Tell readers why you no longer a Republican......................

 

[Capitalist]

Obvious to me the #nevertrump Republican RINOS put together a bill they knew wouldn't pass the House so as to embarrass or undermine the President. Paul Ryan was one of them and still is! Had it by some miracle passed the House, #nevertrumpers in the Senate led by John McCain, his buddy Lindsey Graham and others would have killed it. The bill was no where close to repealing ObamaCare, it was if anything, more onerous. As you said, Thank God for the Freedom Caucus!

And if anyone thinks the goal wasn't to undermine or embarrass Trump, take a look at how the other rail of this plot jumped in to report it as a Trump "failure" when all he wanted to do was ease the pain on the middle class who are now becoming in many cases the new "uninsured", giving up on trying to pay doubled premiums and higher deductibles. Did Trump fail? That's what you are being asked to believe? You're not supposed to know that ObamaCare was foisted on us by lies and a unanimous Democrat vote and not a single Democrat vote was to be had to make any change to it! Yet it is now a Trump/Republican failure?

I'm telling you, there is no such thing as a "vast ring wing conspiracy", or vast left wing conspiracy, or a media conspiracy, they've joined forces. And the telltale traces of that are Mitch McConnell, John Boehner and other Republicans campaigning in 2012 to "stop Obama" and within three weeks after the election they give him everything he wanted.

I think you're exactly right about everything in that post!

 

[Capitalist]

and if you can't afford health insurance, pray you don't get sick.

Alan Grayson called. He wants his meme back.

 

[Dawg]

Alan Grayson called. He wants his meme back.

it's why he pay's his SON $12@hour to Manage his restaurant (fast food joint) and on his Obamacare due to being younger than 26 and NONE of the 35 employees have healthcare..........and damn sure doesn't pay dem/lib $15@hour minimum wage.........

as MV posted

I call them a Jackal.............

 

[Capitalist]

it's why he pay's his SON $12@hour to Manage his restaurant (fast food joint) and on his Obamacare due to being younger than 26 and NONE of the 35 employees have healthcare..........and damn sure doesn't pay dem/lib $15@hour minimum wage.........

as MV posted

I call them a Jackal.............

The pain and sacrifice of socialism is "good" for the masses--people like his son and his employees. But for him? Phuck that!

 

[Boca]

I think you're exactly right about everything in that post!

I'm certain of it....whenever the poster who rated it Funny does so I know two things; I hit the nail on the head and he ain't laughing!

 

[middleview]

I'm certain of it....whenever the poster who rated it Funny does so I know two things; I hit the nail on the head and he ain't laughing!

Don't kid yourself. You should take your routine on the road. You'd be a hit until people realized your aren't kidding.

 

[middleview]

Obvious to me the #nevertrump Republican RINOS put together a bill they knew wouldn't pass the House so as to embarrass or undermine the President. Paul Ryan was one of them and still is! Had it by some miracle passed the House, #nevertrumpers in the Senate led by John McCain, his buddy Lindsey Graham and others would have killed it. The bill was no where close to repealing ObamaCare, it was if anything, more onerous. As you said, Thank God for the Freedom Caucus!

And if anyone thinks the goal wasn't to undermine or embarrass Trump, take a look at how the other rail of this plot jumped in to report it as a Trump "failure" when all he wanted to do was ease the pain on the middle class who are now becoming in many cases the new "uninsured", giving up on trying to pay doubled premiums and higher deductibles. Did Trump fail? That's what you are being asked to believe? You're not supposed to know that ObamaCare was foisted on us by lies and a unanimous Democrat vote and not a single Democrat vote was to be had to make any change to it! Yet it is now a Trump/Republican failure?

I'm telling you, there is no such thing as a "vast ring wing conspiracy", or vast left wing conspiracy, or a media conspiracy, they've joined forces. And the telltale traces of that are Mitch McConnell, John Boehner and other Republicans campaigning in 2012 to "stop Obama" and within three weeks after the election they give him everything he wanted.

So much for Trump and his superior deal making ability. So you think the left wing republicans put together a bill that would never pass...but Trump supported it 100% and did his best to strong arm republicans into voting for it.

That is what passes for logic with you, Boca. Find a way to make Trump look good, but you can't. Either he knew what was in the bill or he didn't. If he didn't then he's a fool for backing it if it could never pass. If he did then he's a fool for knowingly backing a bill that would not serve as an adequate replacement for Obamacare. You are right...it was worse than Obamacare. Far worse.

All he wanted to do was "ease the pain" of the middle class? The only winners in that bill were the wealthy because they got a sweet tax cut.

"No democrat votes were to be had to make any change to it"? What reasonable inprovement did republicans bring to the table?