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Boltlady
Mayor
It will impact a lot more than 2 million. They are, and have been, deliberately squeezing out the small farmers. It's making it more difficult for them to jump through all of the hoops being created. Unfortunately for us, it's the small farmers who actually produce the food that's worth eating.
NightSwimmer
Senator
For this House of Representatives, it is amazing that they managed to pass any legislation, no matter how flawed it may be. I see this as progress, even if it is only baby steps.
Boltlady
Mayor
Passing no legislation would be a lot better than passing legislation that is detrimental to the country.
NightSwimmer
Senator
Not really.
Boltlady
Mayor
OK, I give up. Why would you say such a thing?
NightSwimmer
Senator
I understand your anger and how that can lead someone to offer forth hyperbole, and yet the passage of a flawed farm bill is still preferable to the failure to pass anything at all. Perhaps the Senate will fix the nastier aspects of the House bill.
Renee
Governor
Actually it isn't the small farmers anymore...
LanceFreeman
Mayor
One must always keep in mind that our Congress is practically owned by the mega-corporations, and any bill that favors the corporations will receive prompt attention from our representatives, and will likely pass. Any other bill that favors the common man is likely to languish in the hands of some committee, until it dies a benign death.
And this crap will go on until the American people wake up to their betrayal, and move to do something about it. President Obama will sign any corporate bill that lands on his desk---because, behind all that 'feel good' blather and 'social justce' facade, he is a Wall Street man.
And this crap will go on until the American people wake up to their betrayal, and move to do something about it. President Obama will sign any corporate bill that lands on his desk---because, behind all that 'feel good' blather and 'social justce' facade, he is a Wall Street man.
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NightSwimmer
Senator
What, in your opinion, is the recommended course of action?
Woolleybugger
Mayor
Section 11001 of the House-passed farm bill had a provision that “requires disclosure (by name) of the amount of crop insurance assistance received by Members of Congress, Cabinet Secretaries, and members of their immediate families.”
Look at what they had in that bill before it got whacked out by cooler heads...
Look at what they had in that bill before it got whacked out by cooler heads...
The vote was passed by 89 Democrats and 162 Republicans while 63 Republicans voted against it.
That was far more bipartisan than Obamacare where ALL Republicans voted against it and were joined by 34 Democrats.
So before you whine about it, ream out your own party.
Looks to me like both parties gave a little which is EXACTLY what they are supposed to do when we elect them.
Not saying it was good............ I think the whole bunch are losers.
LanceFreeman
Mayor
The 2-party system is the opiate that keeps the American people sedated. They will never win anything of consequence so long as the 2-party system prevails. In fact, IMO, they will continue to regress---because the 2-party system is now a tool of the wealthy and powerful. It is nothing more than an instrument of the Hegelian Dialectic. Any appearance that Congress is acting on behalf of the American people is purely illusion. Behind every act is a hidden benefit for some interest group. Obamacare, for example, is a windfall for the insurance companies. How can it not be when Obamacare forces people to buy insurance, and penalizes them if they don't? In fact, I understand that the insurance companies were heavily involved in the writing of Obamacare. Unfortunately, the American people live in La-La Land, and you are never going to convince them that Obamacare was primarily written to benefit a special interest group. Not only that, but it gives the government unprecented powers to involve itself in peoples' lives, and to hold power over their physical well-being. This is the same entity that serves the powerful bankers, who control our politics and economy.
The first logical step is to step away from the 2-party system, and never vote for candidates put forward by this system. Instead, vote for Independents, and insist that those candidates who run for office do not belong to globalist organizations, such as the CFR or Tri-lateral Commission, or to secret societies (Freemasonry, Knights of Malta, etc.). That would be a powerful first step in Americans taking back their government, barring an outright revolt, Roumanian style. But how do you convince the American people to change their ways? They have been brainwashed to defend the very system that is slowly destroying their society.
NightSwimmer
Senator
Glad to hear that you're willing to try elections prior to invoking revolution.
Revolutions, especially those that feature beheading of the current rulers, do sort of wipe the slate clean. Then there is a brief celebration of anarchic Utopia, prior to the new leaders forming the new government.
Then you're right back at square one.
Revolutions, especially those that feature beheading of the current rulers, do sort of wipe the slate clean. Then there is a brief celebration of anarchic Utopia, prior to the new leaders forming the new government.
Then you're right back at square one.
Havelock
Mayor
NightSwimmer
Senator
I almost posted that one myself! 
LanceFreeman
Mayor
Somehow, I don't think the Roumanians went back to Square One, as you contend. Although they did execute their tyrannical president. I can think of a few of our leaders, past and present, that deserve to be shot in that same fashion, and I don't think it will really hurt the country if we did so. It would certainly serve justice exponentially better than to set them loose with a Golden Parachute, as we have done.
