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Shouldn't Pelosi be recusing herself?

Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
The Founders were especially worried that a president might behave like a monarch and considered corruption and abuse of power by a president the greatest threat. They must've known that some time in the future, America would debase itself by falling for a corrupt con man who only knows how to abuse power.

Adam Schiff isn't president.
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
On the other hand, when Obama tried to get countries to provide dirt on Trump, when Hillary bought dirt from the Russians, when the Democrat party is owned by Soros, then suddenly foreign influence is fine.

If you didn't have double standards, you'd have no standards at all
Would you believe that I send Soros $100/month? Trump said there's nothing wrong with that.
 

kaz

Small l libertarian
Would you believe that I send Soros $100/month? Trump said there's nothing wrong with that.
And another point sails over Julie's head ...

My point is your double standard that Democrats are off limits while you endlessly engage in what is just harassment investigation of Republican candidates based on complete lies. You didn't get that, sugar? Seriously?
 

Boltlady

Mayor
Let's be clear. Trump asked a foreign country to investigate/dig dirt up on a political opponent. That's illegal and an impeachable offense.

Speaker Pelosi is directing the House to conduct an impeachment inquiry considering all the abuse of power and obstruction of justice Trump has committed in plain sight already. Impeachment is the explicit purview of congress....according to our Constitution.

I supported Pelosi being elected speaker, not just because she was the best to lead the House, but because she would be in line for the presidency when Donald the Destroyer Trump and Father Pence fall. We could use a calm, rational and smart woman leading America.
You really don't understand Trump very well at all. It's absolutely laughable to see how many people actually believe that he was trying to get more information about the Biden family as a political opponent. Trump is a POTUS who is trying to zero in on a lot of the corruption that has been going on for some time in our country and he was talking to a Prez from Ukraine who was recently elected on the same premise.

Joe Biden has been a cash cow for his family for decades and it has been at our country's expense. The fact that he is running for Prez is purely coincidental. Trump could eat his lunch in any debate at any time. Biden is the one who has abused power for many years. The public has a right to know that.
 

Boltlady

Mayor
The Founders were especially worried that a president might behave like a monarch and considered corruption and abuse of power by a president the greatest threat. They must've known that some time in the future, America would debase itself by falling for a corrupt con man who only knows how to abuse power.
They did but Obama is no longer in office. Even so it its important for the public to learn what was really going on during his reign.
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
You really don't understand Trump very well at all. It's absolutely laughable to see how many people actually believe that he was trying to get more information about the Biden family as a political opponent. Trump is a POTUS who is trying to zero in on a lot of the corruption that has been going on for some time in our country and he was talking to a Prez from Ukraine who was recently elected on the same premise.

Joe Biden has been a cash cow for his family for decades and it has been at our country's expense. The fact that he is running for Prez is purely coincidental. Trump could eat his lunch in any debate at any time. Biden is the one who has abused power for many years. The public has a right to know that.
OMG, I hope Trump doesn't ask his pumpkin head supporters like you to drink the poisoned Kool-Aid ala Jim Jones. You wouldn't even hesitate.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
The democrats have tried to impeach the last 5 Republican Presidents. They may not have gotten far enough for everyone to know this, but they wanted it! It isn't going to matter...….they'll fail at this one too. Even if they don't, we'll have Pence, and it won't be so easy to find sh*t on him! :)
1. Nixon would have been impeached and rightly so. The breakin at the DNC, the coverup, the use of executive power to dismiss the AG...all were grounds for impeachment.
2. Reagan illegally sold weapons to Iran...a nation that was under sanctions for having held Americans hostage for over a year. He then lied about it, as well as the transfer of weapons and money to the Contras. He and all participants were pardoned. No attempt to impeach him was made.

Feel free to document any attempt to impeach GHW Bush or W.

Meanwhile the repubs did impeach Clinton and failed to convict. There were numerous calls to impeach Obama, even from a couple of days after inauguration in 2009.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Many Dems are complaining that POTUS shouldn't be investigating Biden because he's a candidate for Prez. and is therefore a competitor. Pelosi as Speaker of the House is 3rd in line to be Prez. Doesn't that make her an even bigger competitor?
Potus isn't investigating Biden. He wants Ukraine or China to do it. He knows there is nothing there, but wants it in the news in time to save his ass in the election.

Even if Trump were impeached Pelosi would not become president....so the answer to your question is...no.
 

FakeName

Governor
They did but Obama is no longer in office. Even so it its important for the public to learn what was really going on during his reign.
what was going on during Obama's reign?

One of the cleanest administrations in American History.

ZERO indictmints of any admin officials. Zero convictions.

on a personal level......one wife.....mother of both of his well adjusted kids.....no cheating......no paying off porn stars.......no talk of grabbing women by the pu$$*s or kissing them with out permission.

one of the most moral men to ever hold office.

that is what was going on.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Probably not, but Shiff sure should. After helping craft the "whistle blower's" complaint and guiding its path, he should be disqualified from investigating it.
 
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Deleted member 21794

Guest
actually, you are lying. they should have impeached bush, but did not, even though he lied us into a useless war that got 4500 soldiers killed, another 35,000 wounded and resulted in the deaths of about 200,000 Iraqi civilians. And he authorized torture, which is a war crime. They did not impeach GW Bush, they did not impeach Reagan, despite his breaking international and domestic law when he sold banned weapons to the Iranians and took that money to arm right wing terrorists called the Contras despite laws specifically banning that.
Actually, your reading comprehension SUCKS. Either that or your reply is irrelevant. Which is it?
 

Caroljo

Senator
1. Nixon would have been impeached and rightly so. The breakin at the DNC, the coverup, the use of executive power to dismiss the AG...all were grounds for impeachment.
2. Reagan illegally sold weapons to Iran...a nation that was under sanctions for having held Americans hostage for over a year. He then lied about it, as well as the transfer of weapons and money to the Contras. He and all participants were pardoned. No attempt to impeach him was made.

Feel free to document any attempt to impeach GHW Bush or W.

Meanwhile the repubs did impeach Clinton and failed to convict. There were numerous calls to impeach Obama, even from a couple of days after inauguration in 2009.
If you cared, you could have looked it up. I didn't say they got far in their push to impeach, but there were a lot of them that wanted it. I said they WANTED TO. And yes....they DID want to impeach both of the Bush's!

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/democrats-want-to-impeach-a-republican-president-what-else-is-new/
 
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