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So it looks like the Kremlin hacked into the voting systems of 39 states...

Bugsy McGurk

President
So far we have been assuming that Kremlin interference in our election was limited to illegal theft of Dem emails and their fake news campaigns.

Well, now it appears that the Kremlin actually hacked into the voting systems of 39 states. This opens up the possibility that the Kremlin actually altered the ballot counts.

We don't Trump doesn't give a damn about that attack on our nation. Do you?

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-06-13/russian-breach-of-39-states-threatens-future-u-s-elections
 
So far we have been assuming that Kremlin interference in our election was limited to illegal theft of Dem emails and their fake news campaigns.

Well, now it appears that the Kremlin actually hacked into the voting systems of 39 states. This opens up the possibility that the Kremlin actually altered the ballot counts.

We don't Trump doesn't give a damn about that attack on our nation. Do you?

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-06-13/russian-breach-of-39-states-threatens-future-u-s-elections
Your link:
"Russian Cyber Hacks on U.S. Electoral System Far Wider Than Previously Known
by
Michael Riley
and
Jordan Robertson
June 13, 2017, 2:00 AM PDT
  • Attackers said to take measure of voting systems, databases
  • A ‘red phone’ warning to the Kremlin from Obama White House"
Obviously, the Russians will say their meddling is payback for how the US looted Russia and the FSU countries during the '90s. We need an international solution of some kind that guarantees no country including the US will engage in this sort of behavior in the future.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Your link:
"Russian Cyber Hacks on U.S. Electoral System Far Wider Than Previously Known
by
Michael Riley
and
Jordan Robertson
June 13, 2017, 2:00 AM PDT
  • Attackers said to take measure of voting systems, databases
  • A ‘red phone’ warning to the Kremlin from Obama White House"
Obviously, the Russians will say their meddling is payback for how the US looted Russia and the FSU countries during the '90s. We need an international solution of some kind that guarantees no country including the US will engage in this sort of behavior in the future.
I'm not real interested in Russia's explanations for their crimes.
 
I'm not real interested in Russia's explanations for their crimes.
What about future US crimes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_presidential_election,_2018

"The 2018 Russian presidential election will take place on 18 March 2018.[1]

"The first round will be held on Sunday 18 March 2018. If in the first round no candidate attains an absolute majority of the votes (more than half), then according to the law, a second round will take place exactly three weeks later, on 8 April 2018.[2]

"The incumbent, President Vladimir Putin, is eligible to seek re-election for a second consecutive term, but has not yet confirmed that he will do this.[3][4]"

Imho, we need to know the full extent of Russian hacking into the last US election. As your link points out the Russians now have three years to perfect their next assault. They will have no incentive to suspend those efforts if we meddle in their next presidential election.
 
https://lasvegassun.com/news/2017/jun/18/trump-and-russia-fresh-details-on-cyberattack-rais/

"In light of the recent revelation that Russia’s breach of U.S. voting systems before Donald Trump’s election was far more extensive than originally reported, Trump’s refusal to embrace sanctions against Russia stinks worse than ever..."

"The Obama administration considered revealing the attacks but decided against it in order not to alarm voters about the integrity of the system,:confused: Bloomberg reported.

"Enter Trump, and the situation becomes even more alarming. Taken in combination with his resistance to sanctions, his praise of Vladimir Putin and his generally chummy attitude toward Russia — as witnessed when he shared intelligence with Russian diplomats in May — it offers the strongest indication yet that he’s been corrupted by the Russian government,

"Think about it. Why would a president not press for sanctions against a country working to disrupt its elections?"

While Trump has hundred$ of million$ of personal reason$ for tolerating Russian hacking, the "integrity of the (US voting) system was compromised long before he was born.

"Vote Early and Often" has plagued US politics since the Republic was founded. Perhaps this latest example foreign meddling will inspire some much needed (and very painful) reforms?

"Increasingly, it’s becoming evident that the Republicans want to keep Trump in office to push through their savage agenda of cuts to health care to fund tax breaks for the wealthy, rollbacks of environmental protections and so forth.

"But history won’t be kind to these cowardly, self-interested officeholders."
 
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Guest
So far we have been assuming that Kremlin interference in our election was limited to illegal theft of Dem emails and their fake news campaigns.

Well, now it appears that the Kremlin actually hacked into the voting systems of 39 states. This opens up the possibility that the Kremlin actually altered the ballot counts.

We don't Trump doesn't give a damn about that attack on our nation. Do you?

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-06-13/russian-breach-of-39-states-threatens-future-u-s-elections
Wow, you're right. We should definitely go to war with Russia.
 
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Deleted member 21794

Guest
There is always going to be asterisk in front of Trump victory.
*could not without the help of the Russians.
*The year that a self-entitled, corrupt, lying insider hack lost to someone more dislike than her, partly due to her own words, which confirmed bad perceptions of her, were released to the public.

I suspect leftist kooks have asterisks next to every recent Republican victory.

*2000: the year the Supreme Court selected the US president.
*2004: the year John Kerry was cheated out of the presidency.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
This is ridiculous. Some excepts from the Intercept article on this matter:

As described by the classified NSA report, the Russian plan was simple: pose as an e-voting vendor and trick local government employees into opening Microsoft Word documents invisibly tainted with potent malware that could give hackers full control over the infected computers.

Overall, the method is one of “medium sophistication,” Williams said, one that “practically any hacker can pull off.”

Schneier said the attack, as described by the NSA, is standard hacking procedure. “Credential-stealing, spear-phishing — this is how it’s done,” he said. “Once you get a beachhead, then you try to figure out how to go elsewhere.”


https://theintercept.com/2017/06/05/top-secret-nsa-report-details-russian-hacking-effort-days-before-2016-election/

So we have a "simple" hack, "standard" in that it could be pulled off by "any hacker," and we're supposed to believe this is indicative of Russian intelligence involvement? Doesn't it seem unreasonable to infer that state actors were using a "simple" plan that "any hacker could pull off?" The Russians are some of the most sophisticated hackers in the world. The Russian intelligence community is not a "gang that couldn't shoot straight." They are the real deal. I find it incredible that these "standard' hacking techniques, that we have "traced" back to the highly skilled hackers in the Russian intelligence apparatus, apparently, through their use of Russian ip addresses, is the kind of thing to risk a geopolitical shit storm over. Even if the Russian intelligence hackers chose to use these "unsophisticated" hacking techniques, which, lets face it, are extremely easy to detect and trace, isn't it wildly fantastical to believe they would be so stupid as to do so from the Kremlin? After all, they simply needed to set up shop in the Seychelles, Panama, or some other such location where the internet service providers don't cooperate with the authorities. It is frankly absurd to suggest that sophisticated state employed hackers were too sloppy, incompetent or stupid to know that ip addresses can be traced. And it is also absurd to suggest that Russia would risk such an endeavor without making sure the hackers they employed were adept at covering their tracks. This whole narrative smells fishy to me, like the one where they assured us that Iraq had WMDs.
 
*The year that a self-entitled, corrupt, lying insider hack lost to someone more dislike than her, partly due to her own words, which confirmed bad perceptions of her, were released to the public.

I suspect leftist kooks have asterisks next to every recent Republican victory.

*2000: the year the Supreme Court selected the US president.
*2004: the year John Kerry was cheated out of the presidency.
It's been almost 20 years since the progreSSives have accepted the results of a presidential election they didn't win. That's insanity.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
This is ridiculous. Some excepts from the Intercept article on this matter:

As described by the classified NSA report, the Russian plan was simple: pose as an e-voting vendor and trick local government employees into opening Microsoft Word documents invisibly tainted with potent malware that could give hackers full control over the infected computers.

Overall, the method is one of “medium sophistication,” Williams said, one that “practically any hacker can pull off.”

Schneier said the attack, as described by the NSA, is standard hacking procedure. “Credential-stealing, spear-phishing — this is how it’s done,” he said. “Once you get a beachhead, then you try to figure out how to go elsewhere.”


https://theintercept.com/2017/06/05/top-secret-nsa-report-details-russian-hacking-effort-days-before-2016-election/

So we have a "simple" hack, "standard" in that it could be pulled off by "any hacker," and we're supposed to believe this is indicative of Russian intelligence involvement? Doesn't it seem unreasonable to infer that state actors were using a "simple" plan that "any hacker could pull off?" The Russians are some of the most sophisticated hackers in the world. The Russian intelligence community is not a "gang that couldn't shoot straight." They are the real deal. I find it incredible that these "standard' hacking techniques, that we have "traced" back to the highly skilled hackers in the Russian intelligence apparatus, apparently, through their use of Russian ip addresses, is the kind of thing to risk a geopolitical shit storm over. Even if the Russian intelligence hackers chose to use these "unsophisticated" hacking techniques, which, lets face it, are extremely easy to detect and trace, isn't it wildly fantastical to believe they would be so stupid as to do so from the Kremlin? After all, they simply needed to set up shop in the Seychelles, Panama, or some other such location where the internet service providers don't cooperate with the authorities. It is frankly absurd to suggest that sophisticated state employed hackers were too sloppy, incompetent or stupid to know that ip addresses can be traced. And it is also absurd to suggest that Russia would risk such an endeavor without making sure the hackers they employed were adept at covering their tracks. This whole narrative smells fishy to me, like the one where they assured us that Iraq had WMDs.
FYI, no one is contending yet that the Kremlin rigged the vote counts. But the account does tell us that they hacked into 39 state systems. Patriotic Americans care about that. Trump doesn't give a shit, nor do you Trump sycophants.
 

Drumcollie

* See DC's list of Kook posters*
Your link:
"Russian Cyber Hacks on U.S. Electoral System Far Wider Than Previously Known
by
Michael Riley
and
Jordan Robertson
June 13, 2017, 2:00 AM PDT
  • Attackers said to take measure of voting systems, databases
  • A ‘red phone’ warning to the Kremlin from Obama White House"
Obviously, the Russians will say their meddling is payback for how the US looted Russia and the FSU countries during the '90s. We need an international solution of some kind that guarantees no country including the US will engage in this sort of behavior in the future.

FBI investigates Bernie Sanderswife for bank fraud ...
https://www.rt.com/usa/387629-jane-sanders-investigation-burlington
The wife of Senator Bernie Sanders is being investigated for allegedly defrauding a bank when she was head of Burlington College.

There is corruption and you are looking in the wrong place.
 
FBI investigates Bernie Sanderswife for bank fraud ...
https://www.rt.com/usa/387629-jane-sanders-investigation-burlington
The wife of Senator Bernie Sanders is being investigated for allegedly defrauding a bank when she was head of Burlington College.

There is corruption and you are looking in the wrong place.
Bernie is not president.
Neither is his wife.
Try to focus:


http://time.com/4822956/donald-trump-tweets-rasmussen-poll-barack-obama/

"As of June 13, the Gallup daily tracking poll showed that just 36% approve of the job Trump is doing as President, while 60% disapprove. The poll provides daily approval ratings dating back to Harry Truman, and Trump is the only President to hit a 60% disapproval rating within the first four-and-a-half months of his presidency."
 
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