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So show us the whistleblowers- hell with anonymous accusations

Discussion in 'Latest Political News and Current Events' started by make speed limit 45, Oct 8, 2019.

  1. make speed limit 45

    make speed limit 45 Mayor

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    Do they even exist or is this is all more lies from the dems and Big Media?. Just like the mueller investiagation.

     
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    make speed limit 45 Mayor

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    My gawd - this is insane!!

     
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  3. JackDallas

    JackDallas Senator Supporting Member

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    It's an Agent in the corrupt Obama Deep State FBI. It's all fabricated bullshit.
     
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  4. make speed limit 45

    make speed limit 45 Mayor

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    All i know is you can't remove a president based on anonymous accusations!!!
     
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  5. Mick

    Mick Mayor

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    Wow. That sounds legitimate. Nothing cries phony more than anonymous hearsay. You can't have due process without the chance to confront your accuser. This person is a dem operative that they are trying to hide the identity of and that is becoming more apparent with each passing day.
     
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  6. ObamacareForever

    ObamacareForever Governor

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    They could in theory. Congress can impeach the president for looking at them wrong. The only check on their impeachment powers is elections.
     
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  7. ObamacareForever

    ObamacareForever Governor

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    This isn't court. So complaining about due process doesn't even make sense.
     
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  8. llovejim

    llovejim Current Champion

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    of all the bizarre ass right wing full o' shit conspiracy theories, this one takes the cake!! the current inspector general, a trump appointee, met with the whistleblower, and called his testimony valid. here is an accurate account of the timeline of the complaint-

    President Donald Trump has been accused in a whistleblower complaint of “using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the 2020 U.S. election.”

    “In the course of my official duties, I have received information from multiple U.S. Government officials that the President of the United States is using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the 2020 U.S. election,” the whistleblower complaint reads. “This interference includes, among other things, pressuring a foreign country to investigate one of the President’s main domestic political rivals. The President’s personal lawyer, Mr. Rudolph Giuliani, is a central figure in this effort. Attorney General [William] Barr appears to be involved as well.”

    The complaint — which was filed Aug. 12 but not released until Sept. 26 — is corroborated by a memo of a July 25 phone call that Trump placed to the recently elected president of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky. The memo, which was released by the White House on Sept. 25, confimed that Trump asked Zelensky to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, Hunter.

    Aug. 26Michael Atkinson, the inspector general for the intelligence community, writes to Acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire to say that he has reviewed the whistleblower’s complaint and has deemed it an “‘urgent concern’ that ‘appears credible.'” Atkinson informs Maguire that, under the law, he has seven days to forward the complaint to the committee chairmen “together with any comments the Director considers appropriate.”

    Aug. 29 — The Defense Department confirms there is a hold on the $250 million in military aid appropriated by Congress, an aide to Sen. Durbin told us.

    Sept. 1 — Vice President Mike Pence meets with Ukrainian President Zelensky in Poland during an event marking the 80th anniversary of the outbreak of World War II.

    Bill Taylor, the charge d’affaires at the U.S. Embassy in Ukraine, writes in a text message exchange involving Volker and U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland: “Are we now saying that security assistance and WH meeting are conditioned on investigations?” Sondland responds: “Call me.”

    Sept. 3 — A bipartisan group of senators sends a letter to Mulvaney, urging him to release the appropriated aid to Ukraine. “This funding is crucial to the long term stability of Ukraine,” reads the letter from Democratic Sens. Durbin, Jeanne Shaheen and Richard Blumenthal, and Republican Sens. Rob Portman and Ron Johnson.

    Sept. 9 — Atkinson, the inspector general of the intelligence community, notifies the House intelligence committee that he received a whistleblower’s complaint relating to an “urgent concern” on Aug. 12. He says he found the information credible, and sent “my determination of a credible urgent concern” along with a copy of the complaint to Acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire, who had seven days to forward the complaint to Congress.

    Sept. 13 — Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff, the chairman of the House intelligence committee, issues “a subpoena to the Acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Joseph Maguire to compel the production of a whistleblower complaint that the Intelligence Community Inspector General’s (IC IG) determined to be credible and a matter of ‘urgent concern,’ as well as the IC IG’s determination and all records pertaining to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence’s (ODNI) involvement in this matter, including any and all correspondence with other Executive Branch actors such as the White House.”

    Sept. 19 — The Washington Post reports that a “whistleblower complaint about President Trump made by an intelligence official centers on Ukraine.”

    In a CNN interview, Giuliani admits that he asked Ukraine to investigate the Bidens. “The only thing I asked about Joe Biden is to get to the bottom of how it was that Lutsenko, who was appointed, dismissed the case [against Burisma],” Giuliani tells CNN’s Chris Cuomo. “So you did ask Ukraine to look into Joe Biden?” Cuomo responds. “Of course I did,” Giuliani says.

    Trump confirms he withheld security aid from Ukraine, saying he did so because he wanted European countries to contribute more to Ukraine. (They contribute more than the United States. See “Trump Wrong on European Aid to Ukraine.”)

    Sept. 25 — The White House releases a memo of the call, which confirmed that Trump asked Zelensky to investigate the Bidens. The memo isn’t a verbatim transcript, but rather the notes taken by assigned staff.

    In the call, Trump complained that the United States is doing “[m]uch more than the European countries are doing and they should be helping you more than they are. Germany does almost nothing for you.” Trump said “the United States has been very, very good to Ukraine. I wouldn’t say that it’s reciprocal necessarily because things are happening that are not good but the United States has been very, very good to Ukraine.”

    Zelensky agreed with Trump, saying “the United States is doing quite a lot for Ukraine.” Trump then asked for “a favor,” telling Zelensky he’d like him to look into CrowdStrike, a cybersecurity firm the Democratic National Committee hired after its server was hacked during the 2016 election. CrowdStrike determined that Russia was behind the cyberattack.

    “The other thing, there’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great,” the memo says Trump told Zelensky. “Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it … It sounds horrible to me.” (There is no evidence that Biden “stopped the prosecution” to help his son. See “Trump Twists Facts on Biden and Ukraine.”)

    Zelensky responded that he will appoint a new prosecutor who “will look into the situation, specifically to the company that you mentioned in this issue.” Trump said he would have Giuliani and Attorney General William Barr call Zelensky.

    Sept. 26 — The House intelligence committee releases a redacted copy of the whistleblower complaint, and hears testimony from Maguire, the acting director of national intelligence.

    Maguire says the whistleblower acted in “good faith” and “did the right thing.” Democrats on the committee press him on why he did not initially turn over the whistleblower’s complaint. Maguire says it was an “unprecedented” situation, and he was concerned about the possibility of “executive privilege,” so he brought the matter to the attention of the White House and then the Department of Justice. He said he did not initially release the complaint based on the advice of lawyers in the Department of Justice.

    In an interview with the Washington Post, Lutsenko says of Hunter Biden: “From the perspective of Ukrainian legislation, he did not violate anything.” He went on to say that an investigation of Burisma’s owner involved activities that occurred before Biden joined the company’s board. “Hunter Biden cannot be responsible for violations of the management of Burisma that took place two years before his arrival,” Lutsenko says.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2019/09/the-whistleblower-complaint-timeline/
     
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  9. Nutty Cortez

    Nutty Cortez Woot Woot !!!!!!

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    After Crying about Foreign Election interference for 2+ years.

    Now My party is defending Election interference !
    Oh wait ! That's because Ukraine helped Hillary.
    SORRY !! That's why we hate them !!
     
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    Nutty Cortez Woot Woot !!!!!!

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    Correct. It's a Fairy Tale.
     
  11. llovejim

    llovejim Current Champion

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    what are you talking about? do you even have a clue? and your party is defending election interference- in broad daylight- the trump phone call and then him telling news reporters Ukraine and China need to investigate Biden. how the hell did Ukraine help Hillary? why repeat silly ass shit?
     
  12. llovejim

    llovejim Current Champion

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    here is your fairy tale, spewed by Trump to reporters. quit your lame ass defending of the indefensible. it should make you embarrassed.

     
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  13. ObamacareForever

    ObamacareForever Governor

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    Check the consitution... Legislative oversight over the executive is no fairy tale.
     
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  14. make speed limit 45

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    Well of course dems could do it in theory. But they won't. They know the public backlash would destroy them. These whistleblowers will have to be identified eventually.
     
  15. Nostra

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    This gossipblower lied about having first hand knowledge, got many factS wrong (more lies), and has professional ties to a Dimwinger Presidential candidate.

    And Nazi Pelousy thinks she can overturn an election on this while keeping his identity hidden? Also, not letting Republicans ask questions and mount a defense violates the impeachment process.

    It is a farce, and it is blowing up in their faces, just like the Muehler NOTHINGBURGER.
     
  16. ObamacareForever

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    they will testify with their voice and face masked like whistleblowers do on 60 minutes
     
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  17. Nostra

    Nostra Governor

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    We don't overturn an election based on hearsay from a political hack.
     
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  18. Mick

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    Uhh, for the POTUS the impeachment process IS the court. Good job trying rationalize left wing corruption, though. No need for legitimate due process. Left wing banana republic shenanigans.
     
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  19. ObamacareForever

    ObamacareForever Governor

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    You are mischaracterizing impeachment
    You are mischaracterizing the whistleblower complaint
    Speculative.
     
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  20. ObamacareForever

    ObamacareForever Governor

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    No, its not, He will get all his rights when the DOJ carts him away in handcuffs. Congress sets the rules for impeachment.
     
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