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So you don't think illegal aliens vote?

middleview

President
Supporting Member
1. Some localities take it to heart when they hear the words "No taxation without representation". So when they think about people paying local and state taxes they think it right that those people should be allowed to vote in their local elections.

Nice try at changing the subject. Not gonna work. Illegals are not permitted to vote in national elections, and all this law does is violate federal law. Here is the federal law.


2. That is not the law here in Colorado, but if it were a ballot measure I'd have to hear both sides to make up my mind about it.

No you wouldn't. You're the most narrow minded liberal on this forum. ANYTHING that gets Democrats elected and dry humps the constitution is okay with you.

3. Federal government should not intrude on something that is clearly not a national matter.

Registering wetbacks to vote IS a national matter. Where do you think Hillary got all those popular votes from?
From your link:
It shall be unlawful for any alien to vote in any election held solely or in part for the purpose of electing a candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner, unless—

Although Trump made the accusation that Hillary got 3 million, no wait...5 million...er nah...gotta be even more than that...

Notice that he has done nothing at all to investigate or prevent illegal voting. His bullshit commission on voting was just Pence working on collecting enough info to
suppress votes by non-republicans. That is why he wanted party registrations.

The law you quoted exempts local elections and is specific about national elections.
Thanks for proving my point.
 

reason10

Governor
From your link:
It shall be unlawful for any alien to vote in any election held solely or in part for the purpose of electing a candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner, unless—

Although Trump made the accusation that Hillary got 3 million, no wait...5 million...er nah...gotta be even more than that...

Obviously, 5 million ILLEGAL ALIENS broke the law and voted.

Notice that he has done nothing at all to investigate or prevent illegal voting.

He has been enforcing the borders, deported illegals and getting the wall built. He put more ICE officers in big cities. And that's kinda hard with a left wing House voting against his every move.

His bullshit commission on voting was just Pence working on collecting enough info to
suppress votes by non-republicans. That is why he wanted party registrations.

That is not even a smart lie. Edited Republicans have engaged in purging of voter registration rolls because people die or move away without updating their registration. That's how illegals are able to commit identity theft and engage in voter fraud.

The law you quoted exempts local elections and is specific about national elections.
Thanks for proving my point.


The law says illegals are forbidden from voting in national elections. Hillary got her popular vote lead from illegals. Period.

Those are the facts and facts don't care about your feelings.
 
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FakeName

Governor
The law says illegals are forbidden from voting in national elections. Hillary got her popular vote lead from illegals. Period.

Those are the facts and facts don't care about your feelings.
The subject of this thread is local elections not national elections and your assertion about five million illegals voting for Hillary Clinton is an outright, thoroughly debunked lie. You should be ashamed of your self for repeating it.




 

EatTheRich

President
Why is the left wing House trying to get illegals the right to vote? (which by the way is ILLEGAL)
House votes to support illegal immigrant voting in local elections
House Democrats voted Friday to defend localities that allow illegal immigrants to vote in their elections, turning back a GOP attempt to discourage the practice.
The vote marks a stunning reversal from just six months ago, when the chamber — then under GOP control — voted to decry illegal immigrant voting.
“We are prepared to open up the political process and let all of the people come in,” Rep. John Lewis, a Georgia Democrat and hero of the civil rights movement, told colleagues as he led opposition to the GOP measure.

The 228-197 vote came as part of a broader debate on Democrats’ major legislative priority this year, HR 1, the “For the People Act,” which includes historic expansions of voter registration and access, as well as a major rewrite of campaign finance laws.

The measure would have had no practical effect even if it had passed. Illegal immigrants — and indeed noncitizens as a whole — are not legally able to participate in federal elections.


It's obvious. Democrats cannot win elections with legal voters.
The DNC Is the party of criminals.
Here we’re talking about legal voters, about localities that use their constitutional powers of local self-government to choose who to permit to vote in their local elections (choosing to allow no residents to vote as 10 of the 13 original states did when the Constitution was ratified) and unconstitutional efforts by the federal government to tell local cities who can and can’t be allowed to vote.
 

EatTheRich

President
If you are a LEGAL immigrant, or hold a green card or long term VISA, that's fine.

ILLEGAL is the key word. Someone here ILLEGALLY should NOT be allowed a vote. Period.
The only difference between a “legal” and an “illegal” immigrant is that one had the opportunity to immigrate legally.
 

EatTheRich

President
No. The issue is these people are here illegally using up our resources.
The whole reason the right encourages illegal immigration so much (by restricting legal immigration) is that the ratio of what undocumented immigrants produce to what they consume is so much greater than for the rest of us (since their not having legal status makes it easier to exploit them). Remember, immigration restrictions are not meant to keep people out, but to push them down.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
From your link:
It shall be unlawful for any alien to vote in any election held solely or in part for the purpose of electing a candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner, unless—

Although Trump made the accusation that Hillary got 3 million, no wait...5 million...er nah...gotta be even more than that...

Obviously, 5 million ILLEGAL ALIENS broke the law and voted.

Notice that he has done nothing at all to investigate or prevent illegal voting.

He has been enforcing the borders, deported illegals and getting the wall built. He put more ICE officers in big cities. And that's kinda hard with a left wing House voting against his every move.

His bullshit commission on voting was just Pence working on collecting enough info to
suppress votes by non-republicans. That is why he wanted party registrations.

That is not even a smart lie. Edited Republicans have engaged in purging of voter registration rolls because people die or move away without updating their registration. That's how illegals are able to commit identity theft and engage in voter fraud.

The law you quoted exempts local elections and is specific about national elections.
Thanks for proving my point.


The law says illegals are forbidden from voting in national elections. Hillary got her popular vote lead from illegals. Period.

Those are the facts and facts don't care about your feelings.
Sure thing...you believe that there were 5 million illegal aliens who voted using the identities of dead people. You just have no evidence to prove it.

So why hasn't Trump done anything to insure that there will not be illegal voting in 2020?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Why is the left wing House trying to get illegals the right to vote? (which by the way is ILLEGAL)
House votes to support illegal immigrant voting in local elections
House Democrats voted Friday to defend localities that allow illegal immigrants to vote in their elections, turning back a GOP attempt to discourage the practice.
The vote marks a stunning reversal from just six months ago, when the chamber — then under GOP control — voted to decry illegal immigrant voting.
“We are prepared to open up the political process and let all of the people come in,” Rep. John Lewis, a Georgia Democrat and hero of the civil rights movement, told colleagues as he led opposition to the GOP measure.

The 228-197 vote came as part of a broader debate on Democrats’ major legislative priority this year, HR 1, the “For the People Act,” which includes historic expansions of voter registration and access, as well as a major rewrite of campaign finance laws.


The measure would have had no practical effect even if it had passed. Illegal immigrants — and indeed noncitizens as a whole — are not legally able to participate in federal elections.


It's obvious. Democrats cannot win elections with legal voters.
The DNC Is the party of criminals.
So there is some kind of evidence of millions of illegal voters in 1992, 1996, 2008 and 2012?
 
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reason10

Governor
The subject of this thread is local elections not national elections and your assertion about five million illegals voting for Hillary Clinton is an outright, thoroughly debunked lie. You should be ashamed of your self for repeating it.




You're quoting left wing opinion rags.

You're the one who should be ashamed.
 

reason10

Governor
Sure thing...you believe that there were 5 million illegal aliens who voted using the identities of dead people. You just have no evidence to prove it.

So why hasn't Trump done anything to insure that there will not be illegal voting in 2020?
The question should be WHY are the Democrats trying to pass legislation GUARANTEEING that illegals will vote in the next election?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
The question should be WHY are the Democrats trying to pass legislation GUARANTEEING that illegals will vote in the next election?
1. What legislation are you talking about? I've seen nothing that would allow non-citizens to vote in a national election.
2. Again, why has Trump, the top law enforcement guy in the country, done nothing about the alleged massive voter fraud?
 
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reason10

Governor
1. What legislation are you talking about? I've seen nothing that would allow non-citizens to vote in a national election.

Asked and answered. (Geez! I thought only second graders pretend they're too stupid to have gotten the right answer.) The first post of this thread shows the House pushing legislation to register illegal aliens to vote. And NOTHING in that registration will prevent them from voting in a national election.

2. Again, why has Trump, the top law enforcement guy in the country, done nothing about the alleged massive voter fraud?

First, Trump is NOT the top law enforcement guy in the country. (Gee! Are your toddlers playing on this forum or are you really that stupid?) Attorney General Barr would be the one with that job. Besides, President Trump has had a pretty full plate, what with protecting American from the Pelosi Virus. He's been a little occupied.
 

reason10

Governor
All fact checkers have debunked that utter nonsense yet you people keep on believing what you want to believe, because you want to believe it. In spite of the facts.
You haven't posted any fact checkers. You've posted left wing hacks who call themselves fact checkers, but they aren't. They're just left wing hacks.

I own the facts. And they don't care about your feelings nor your delusions.
 

FakeName

Governor
You haven't posted any fact checkers. You've posted left wing hacks who call themselves fact checkers, but they aren't. They're just left wing hacks.

I own the facts. And they don't care about your feelings nor your delusions.
Post any fact check site that backs those lies up.

I won't hold my breath.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
The vote counts in those years show pretty much the same stats. Based on your logic there should have been a giant jump in numbers voting democrat. There weren't.
Hillary got about the same number of votes in California as Obama did.

"Most of the country"? Trump lost the popular vote by 3 million and only won the EC by 80,000 votes in Michigan, Wisconsin and PA...less than 1% of the votes cast in those states.
 

EatTheRich

President
1. What legislation are you talking about? I've seen nothing that would allow non-citizens to vote in a national election.

Asked and answered. (Geez! I thought only second graders pretend they're too stupid to have gotten the right answer.) The first post of this thread shows the House pushing legislation to register illegal aliens to vote. And NOTHING in that registration will prevent them from voting in a national election.

2. Again, why has Trump, the top law enforcement guy in the country, done nothing about the alleged massive voter fraud?

First, Trump is NOT the top law enforcement guy in the country. (Gee! Are your toddlers playing on this forum or are you really that stupid?) Attorney General Barr would be the one with that job. Besides, President Trump has had a pretty full plate, what with protecting American from the Pelosi Virus. He's been a little occupied.
Nothing except the nature of the registration which makes clear what elections they are and aren’t eligible to vote in.

And, yeah, Trump is busy dealing with Coronavirus. Is he up to 3-hour work days now?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
1. What legislation are you talking about? I've seen nothing that would allow non-citizens to vote in a national election.

Asked and answered. (Geez! I thought only second graders pretend they're too stupid to have gotten the right answer.) The first post of this thread shows the House pushing legislation to register illegal aliens to vote. And NOTHING in that registration will prevent them from voting in a national election.

2. Again, why has Trump, the top law enforcement guy in the country, done nothing about the alleged massive voter fraud?

First, Trump is NOT the top law enforcement guy in the country. (Gee! Are your toddlers playing on this forum or are you really that stupid?) Attorney General Barr would be the one with that job. Besides, President Trump has had a pretty full plate, what with protecting American from the Pelosi Virus. He's been a little occupied.
Sometimes it is just too easy to get you to take the bait.

Trump Falsely Proclaims Himself The Top Law Enforcement Officer In America


The legislation you are talking about does not override the rule which you posted that forbids voting by non-citizens in national elections.


From your link:
It shall be unlawful for any alien to vote in any election held solely or in part for the purpose of electing a candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner, unless—
 
Of course illegals vote. All dem run cities are sanctuary cities and have announced they will not enforce immigration laws. Illegals vote by the millions.
 
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