ALL people have had slaves, sport. Hate to burst your "hate America First" bubble and all but the sad fact of the matter is that some of those people also did NOT own slaves and some of those people helped to eventually end slavery so if we are going to lump them all together why limit it to ONLY lumping them into groups who did things wrong?
As for your silly assed, "native American race" being "exterminated", assertation, IF that were true why is it we still have people of "native American race" today?
Words have meanings. If English is not your first language as I suspect, look up, "exterminate" and get back to me.
Also, the people who were here when those evil assed white folks came to exterminate them, are you of the opinion that THEY just one day sprang up from the marshlands, hillsides, forest and fields and were just "there" from that time until they were exterminated or what?
Tell you what, how about you try to read up on the history of the Americas PRIOR to all the evil white folks and let me know if you see any mention of, oh, I don't know, wars, slavery, cannablism perhaps, sh it like THAT or if every time one group ran up on another one they all sat around the camp fire, smoked their peace pipes, roasted maze, sang kum-ba-ya and rubbed one another.
Then do the same thing for that continent of Africa. Read about how all of them were just peacefully following the antelops around when the mean white came and took them all away. Hell, never mind history, read about how sweet all the black folks there treat one another today and then get back to me about how ugly the US is, 'k?
"I for one, couldn't care less about what they intended, etc. "
Well no sh it. You DO have a way of over stating the obvious.......
THAT has been apparent since your first post on here. That is the only reason anyone would be so desperate to belittle and alter our nation, isn't it now?
Okay, you are right some Native Americans survived. So I should have wrote "intended to exterminate."
You are also right that other nations have had slaves. I guess the next time a murderer gets arrested he can respond "I am innocent because other people have committed murder."
Back to the point we were discussing, your desire to take the founding fathers as exactly as they spoke, verbatim as they will, is false under the reasons I gave. They were not perfect people, thus they could have been wrong. Slavery, genocidal campaigns and anti-womens rights are but a few examples of this. Thus anyone committed to taking their words as de-facto law are simply foolish.
To make it clear for you: If they were wrong on slavery and women's rights then they can be wrong on gun control. once it is established they are not infallible, then we can drop the pretense that we are slaves to words written a few centuries ago in spite of the changing dynamic of the world and our country.
In fact, there are a plethora of free countries out there in the world where citizens do not have the right to have a gun.
As for your anti-American remarks, I have little to say other then to comment that I have never hated America in my life. I do disagree with policies, particularly the ones I cited like slavery and murdering native Americans, which you defended like a true genocide denier and slave apologetic. Your rabid defense of these things is peculiar to me. But the idea that we call people anti-Americans for disagreeing with slavery is a typical tactic of those who cannot argue on the merits.
In fact, it is deeply totalitarian. So Stalin, could opposes of his brutal polices anti-soviet and capitalist stooges. In NAZI Germany they were called Jew lovers. Thats quite a class of people your reasoning belongs with.
If you think criticizing slavery is anti-American then I am guilty as charged. I think it is an affront to people who were slaves. I am proud to say I am an American, against slavery and against genocide.
Further, American culture I am deeply in love with and it pervades my life from Music, movies, books, sex, everything. Yopu'll note my picture is of Woody Guthrie.
But people who are committed to American violence around the world, like yourselves, will defend American atrocities no matter how awful they are. Even if its mass genocide against Native Americans or slaves. So, under your reasoning, if one can call emotional ramblings such, Sadaam Hussein(incidentally he was a US ally using US weapons or this) didn't committed genocidal polices against the kurds, cause some are still alive.
Yeah, to people like you an action is moral cause America did it. Well you can read that in the NAZI archives too.