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reason10

Governor
It is clear he was complaining about legal immigration from countries he has made evident he knows nothing about other than the ethnicity of the people there.

That's a edited LIE on several counts: 1. He never mentioned the ethnicity of the ILLEGALS from those shithole countries. Fcking retards putting words in his mouth do not quality as his actual statement. 2. He was not complaining about legal immigration from shithole countries. He was complaining about ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. Earth to edited : There is such a thing as ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.

3. People have LEGALLY emigrated here from those shithole countries for every year of President Trump's time in office. He welcomes ALL legal immigrants.

Problem is, you (Censored)s doing believe there is such a thing as ILLEGAL immigration.
 
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JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
Don't you mean Obama? He is the one who started taking children from their parents. They are not immigrants. They are criminals the minute they step over the border without permission. That is why they are in detention, not because they are seeking asylum. If they went to a port of entry and surrendered themselves for asylum, they wouldn't be locked up. Get a clue already. Criminals are treated like CRIMINALS. Do you really want children in a holding cell with all kinds of men who do not care about what they do to them? No we do not owe a criminal family room and board. They need to take care of themselves instead of breaking our laws and expecting the US taxpayer to pay for them. You are stupid enough to fall for the Democrat line of "these poor people who decided to say Screw American law"! How can you even consider yourself an American when you put the welfare of criminals over your fellow Americans?
But Obama....
But Hillary....
When you can't see anything wrong with Trump's PURPOSEFUL cruel and inhumane treatment of immigrant children especially, and adults, you reveal your own questionable morals and values. Sad.

 

reason10

Governor
Ports of entry are turning away people, making them stay in unsafe Mexico while they deliberately slow-walk the review process to create a bottleneck.

It is a bitch having to OBEY THE LAW. It's inconvenient for those at the back of the line.

People weren’t crossing illegally to seek asylum until Trump’s policy changes made it impossible to apply for asylum otherwise.

That's a fcking LIE. Trump made NO policies changes in INTERNATIONAL LAW. It is ILLEGAL to seek asylum in ANY country that is not directly bordering on the country you want to leave. People coming from Guatemala can either LEGALLY seek asylum from Mexico or Honduras, or Belize. People coming from Houduras have the choice of either Guatemala, San Salvador or Nicaragua to seek asylum from, according to international law.

President Trump made NO policy changes. He merely ENFORCED THE LAW.

And trying to climb the wall, throwing stones at border patrol agents, THOSE ARE CRIMES.
 

reason10

Governor
But Obama....
But Hillary....
When you can't see anything wrong with Trump's PURPOSEFUL cruel and inhumane treatment of immigrant children especially, and adults, you reveal your own questionable morals and values. Sad.

All of that is a [Unwelcome language removed] LIE.
1. The border patrol SHOWED US that conditions for the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS trying to enter this country ILLEGALLY are humane, and that AOC was lying. 2. There is ZERO inhumane treatment of immigrant children. They are in this country LEGALLY with parents or other family. ILLEGAL ALIENS are in detention centers because they tried to enter this country ILLEGALLY.

3. Earth to idiot. THERE IS A CLEAR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IMMIGRATION AND ILLEGAL ENTRY INTO AMERICA. Those animals who tried to cross the border are NOT immigrants. They are CRIMINALS.
 

EatTheRich

President
It is clear he was complaining about legal immigration from countries he has made evident he knows nothing about other than the ethnicity of the people there.

That's a FCKING LIE on several counts: 1. He never mentioned the ethnicity of the ILLEGALS from those shithole countries. Fcking retards putting words in his mouth do not quality as his actual statement. 2. He was not complaining about legal immigration from shithole countries. He was complaining about ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. Earth to fuckking IDIOT: There is such a thing as ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.

3. People have LEGALLY emigrated here from those shithole countries for every year of President Trump's time in office. He welcomes ALL legal immigrants.

Problem is, you (Censored)s doing believe there is such a thing as ILLEGAL immigration.
Read his actual remark again. He was complaining about legal immigration.
 

EatTheRich

President
Ports of entry are turning away people, making them stay in unsafe Mexico while they deliberately slow-walk the review process to create a bottleneck.

It is a bitch having to OBEY THE LAW. It's inconvenient for those at the back of the line.

People weren’t crossing illegally to seek asylum until Trump’s policy changes made it impossible to apply for asylum otherwise.

That's a fcking LIE. Trump made NO policies changes in INTERNATIONAL LAW. It is ILLEGAL to seek asylum in ANY country that is not directly bordering on the country you want to leave. People coming from Guatemala can either LEGALLY seek asylum from Mexico or Honduras, or Belize. People coming from Houduras have the choice of either Guatemala, San Salvador or Nicaragua to seek asylum from, according to international law.

President Trump made NO policy changes. He merely ENFORCED THE LAW.

And trying to climb the wall, throwing stones at border patrol agents, THOSE ARE CRIMES.
It is “inconvenient” in the sense that they might die. You cannot just make up laws because it would suit you if they existed.
 

EatTheRich

President
But Obama....
But Hillary....
When you can't see anything wrong with Trump's PURPOSEFUL cruel and inhumane treatment of immigrant children especially, and adults, you reveal your own questionable morals and values. Sad.

All of that is a [Unwelcome language removed] LIE.
1. The border patrol SHOWED US that conditions for the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS trying to enter this country ILLEGALLY are humane, and that AOC was lying. 2. There is ZERO inhumane treatment of immigrant children. They are in this country LEGALLY with parents or other family. ILLEGAL ALIENS are in detention centers because they tried to enter this country ILLEGALLY.

3. Earth to idiot. THERE IS A CLEAR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IMMIGRATION AND ILLEGAL ENTRY INTO AMERICA. Those animals who tried to cross the border are NOT immigrants. They are CRIMINALS.
Dehumanizing. The difference between a legal immigrant and an illegal immigrant is the increasingly vanishing opportunity to immigrate legally. In fact, entering without authorization for purposes of applying for asylum, as many of those in the concentration camps where the “humane” conditions have led to repeated epidemics did, is legal.
 

reason10

Governor
Read his actual remark again. He was complaining about legal immigration.
First of all, a liberal giving an OPINION about a quote is not a quote.
Secondly, LEGAL immigration in 2016 from shithole countries like Guatemala, El Salvador, Jamaica, Dominican Republican is UP. LEGALS are coming from those shitholes and nobody is complaining.

It's the ANIMALS who try to crash our LEGAL borders that are the problem. And there is a difference.

Someone who tries to climb the wall is a criminal an ILLEGAL ALIEN.
Someone who waited his/her turn and got in legally is an IMMIGRANT.

Let's try this again, so you don't miss it.

Someone who tries to climb the wall is a criminal an ILLEGAL ALIEN.
Someone who waited his/her turn and got in legally is an IMMIGRANT.

Someone who tries to climb the wall is a criminal an ILLEGAL ALIEN.
Someone who waited his/her turn and got in legally is an IMMIGRANT.

Someone who tries to climb the wall is a criminal an ILLEGAL ALIEN.
Someone who waited his/her turn and got in legally is an IMMIGRANT.

Someone who tries to climb the wall is a criminal an ILLEGAL ALIEN.
Someone who waited his/her turn and got in legally is an IMMIGRANT.

Someone who tries to climb the wall is a criminal an ILLEGAL ALIEN.
Someone who waited his/her turn and got in legally is an IMMIGRANT.

Got it, yet?

ILLEGAL VERSUS IMMIGRANT.
 

reason10

Governor
It is “inconvenient” in the sense that they might die. You cannot just make up laws because it would suit you if they existed.
Nobody is making up any laws. All President Trump is doing is ENFORCING the laws.
People die every fcking day. And if you want to find a shithole country where people are dying, look no further than Los Angeles.




No, that isn't Guatemala or Honduras. That's Los Angeles.
 

reason10

Governor
Dehumanizing. The difference between a legal immigrant and an illegal immigrant is the increasingly vanishing opportunity to immigrate legally.

Opportunity to emigrate here is NOT vanishing. There have been NO bills in Congress limiting the number of LEGAL immigrants each year. And each year, a MILLION immigrants come here LEGALLY.

In fact, entering without authorization for purposes of applying for asylum, as many of those in the concentration camps where the “humane” conditions have led to repeated epidemics did, is legal.

There are no concentration camps, you fuckkking liar.

And these facilities were built by the Obama regime. All President Trump is doing is using them for the animals who broke our laws.

And coming here to apply for asylum from ANY country that does not directly abut the United States is a CRIME, according to international law. If a Mexican citizen wants asylum, that is legal. If a Honduran crosses a Mexican jungle for asylum in the US, that's ILLEGAL.

Do you understand the fuckking difference between legal and illegal?

And STILL, someone applying for asylum who shows up at a LEGAL port of entry is granted asylum.

Those animals did NOT apply for asylum at legal ports of entry. They tried to climb the wall. They belong in jail until they can be deported. If they want into this country, they need to get in line.

 

EatTheRich

President
First of all, a liberal giving an OPINION about a quote is not a quote.
Secondly, LEGAL immigration in 2016 from shithole countries like Guatemala, El Salvador, Jamaica, Dominican Republican is UP. LEGALS are coming from those shitholes and nobody is complaining.

It's the ANIMALS who try to crash our LEGAL borders that are the problem. And there is a difference.

Someone who tries to climb the wall is a criminal an ILLEGAL ALIEN.
Someone who waited his/her turn and got in legally is an IMMIGRANT.

Let's try this again, so you don't miss it.

Someone who tries to climb the wall is a criminal an ILLEGAL ALIEN.
Someone who waited his/her turn and got in legally is an IMMIGRANT.

Someone who tries to climb the wall is a criminal an ILLEGAL ALIEN.
Someone who waited his/her turn and got in legally is an IMMIGRANT.

Someone who tries to climb the wall is a criminal an ILLEGAL ALIEN.
Someone who waited his/her turn and got in legally is an IMMIGRANT.

Someone who tries to climb the wall is a criminal an ILLEGAL ALIEN.
Someone who waited his/her turn and got in legally is an IMMIGRANT.

Someone who tries to climb the wall is a criminal an ILLEGAL ALIEN.
Someone who waited his/her turn and got in legally is an IMMIGRANT.

Got it, yet?

ILLEGAL VERSUS IMMIGRANT.
Yes, Trump was complaining. “Why do we let in all these people” from countries with largely nonwhite populations, he asked. Got it? Not “Why are all these people sneaking in.” “Why are we letting all these people in.” He was complaining about legal immigration. Just as you view undocumented immigrants as “animals” who have no unalienable human rights, so many other xenophobes and racists view all people of color that way regardless of where they were born or how they got to the U.S.
 

EatTheRich

President
Nobody is making up any laws. All President Trump is doing is ENFORCING the laws.
People die every fcking day. And if you want to find a shithole country where people are dying, look no further than Los Angeles.




No, that isn't Guatemala or Honduras. That's Los Angeles.
Show me the law that
people must seek asylum in a country that borders their own. Or be known as a liar.

Los Angeles is a city. Not a country.
 

EatTheRich

President
Dehumanizing. The difference between a legal immigrant and an illegal immigrant is the increasingly vanishing opportunity to immigrate legally.

Opportunity to emigrate here is NOT vanishing. There have been NO bills in Congress limiting the number of LEGAL immigrants each year. And each year, a MILLION immigrants come here LEGALLY.

In fact, entering without authorization for purposes of applying for asylum, as many of those in the concentration camps where the “humane” conditions have led to repeated epidemics did, is legal.

There are no concentration camps, you fuckkking liar.

And these facilities were built by the Obama regime. All President Trump is doing is using them for the animals who broke our laws.

And coming here to apply for asylum from ANY country that does not directly abut the United States is a CRIME, according to international law. If a Mexican citizen wants asylum, that is legal. If a Honduran crosses a Mexican jungle for asylum in the US, that's ILLEGAL.

Do you understand the fuckking difference between legal and illegal?

And STILL, someone applying for asylum who shows up at a LEGAL port of entry is granted asylum.

Those animals did NOT apply for asylum at legal ports of entry. They tried to climb the wall. They belong in jail until they can be deported. If they want into this country, they need to get in line.
The laws restricting legal immigration are decades old. The policies maximizing the number of legal immigrants turned away under these laws were established by Obama and Trump.

I see you are going with the “kettle defense”: “There are no concentration camps, and Obama built the concentration camps, and Trump was right to put people in concentration camps.”

The claim that only people from Canada and Mexico can seek asylum in the U.S. is one you made up. There is no law supporting that position.

The father and daughter who recently drowned on the border had previously tried to apply for asylum at a port of entry and been denied the opportunity even to have a hearing.
 

reason10

Governor
Show me the law that
people must seek asylum in a country that borders their own. Or be known as a liar.

https://www.immigrationequality.org/get-legal-help/our-legal-resources/immigration-equality-asylum-manual/immigration-basics-safe-third-country/#.XSn_qGR7m71
In December 2004, the United States and Canada agreed to begin the implementation of the Safe Third Country Agreement between the two countries.

As a result, most asylum-seekers must apply for asylum in whichever of these two countries they land in first. That is, an asylum-seeker who travels through the United States and wishes to seek asylum at the Canadian land border will be turned back and told to pursue their claim in the United States, and vice versa.


Los Angeles is a city. Not a country.


It is a shithole, as is most of California.
 

EatTheRich

President
Show me the law that
people must seek asylum in a country that borders their own. Or be known as a liar.

https://www.immigrationequality.org/get-legal-help/our-legal-resources/immigration-equality-asylum-manual/immigration-basics-safe-third-country/#.XSn_qGR7m71
In December 2004, the United States and Canada agreed to begin the implementation of the Safe Third Country Agreement between the two countries.


As a result, most asylum-seekers must apply for asylum in whichever of these two countries they land in first. That is, an asylum-seeker who travels through the United States and wishes to seek asylum at the Canadian land border will be turned back and told to pursue their claim in the United States, and vice versa.

Los Angeles is a city. Not a country.


It is a shithole, as is most of California.
That’s not international law. It is an agreement between the U.S. and Canada and is based on the premise that both are safe loci of asylum (whereas Mexico or Guatemala may not be).
 

Bernard_Fokke

Captain Fokke
Supporting Member
Would Mexico be wealthier if California, Arizona, Utah, New Mexico, Texas, much of Colorado, and part of Wyoming, as well as all the wealth thereof, had not been taken by the U.S. in wars of conquest? Would the U.S. be poorer?
We won they lost, that was the way of things then, suck it up you commie buttercup. I hate you commie asshats, with any luck your days are seriously numbered.
 

reason10

Governor
The laws restricting legal immigration are decades old.

The law against murder is CENTURIES OLD. Earth to IDIOT. Laws don't spoil on the vine with age. They stay the same. And if you don't like the law, you elect a Congress to CHANGE the law. You don't get to just violate it because you want to.

The policies maximizing the number of legal immigrants turned away under these laws were established by Obama and Trump.

Actually, those laws precede both Presidents. And both presidents did implement policies regarding ILLEGAL aliens. Did you forget there was a difference between ILLEGAL and LEGAL?

I see you are going with the “kettle defense”: “There are no concentration camps, and Obama built the concentration camps, and Trump was right to put people in concentration camps.”

I gave you a video of a border patrol agent who showed video of the accommodations you fuckking LIARS tried to call concentration camps. And those cages that you accuse Trump of putting kids in WERE BUILT BY OBAMA POLICIES. It's not a defense. It is a concept apparently you are physically allergic to. It is FACT.



The claim that only people from Canada and Mexico can seek asylum in the U.S. is one you made up. There is no law supporting that position
.

I've already shown you the law. There are exceptions to that law. A person CAN apply for asylum in the US from the country that person lives. It's as easy as walking over to the American embassy and applying.

The father and daughter who recently drowned on the border had previously tried to apply for asylum at a port of entry and been denied the opportunity even to have a hearing.

That's a [Unwelcome language removed] LIE.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2019/06/26/father-daughter-who-drowned-border-dove-into-river-desperation/?utm_term=.38b94fc2f2ee
They traveled more than 1,000 miles seeking it. Once in the United States, they planned to ask for asylum, for refuge from the violence that drives many Central American migrants from their home countries every day. But the farthest the family got was an international bridge in Matamoros, Mexico. On Sunday, they were told the bridge was closed and that they should return Monday. Aid workers told The Post the line to get across the bridge was hundreds long.


That man had NOT applied for asylum. He could have gone to an American Embassy in Mexico. And this PROVES his criminal intention.
The young family was desperate. Standing on the Mexican side of the Rio Grande, America looked within reach. Martínez and Valeria waded in. But before they all made it to the other side, to Brownsville, Tex., the river waters pulled the 25-year-old and his daughter under and swept them away.


You can blame that on Pelosi and her refusal to fund the Wall. Had it been up, that dumb fck would have stayed in his country and fixed the problems there, rather than coming here to get on welfare.

But mostly, you can blame what happened on that animal, who wanted to jump the line and break the law.

You're not doing too well on facts, today.
Then again, you never do.

 

reason10

Governor
Yes, Trump was complaining. “Why do we let in all these people” from countries with largely nonwhite populations, he asked.

He never used those words. He never said "largely nonwhite populations." That is not a quote, no matter how many fuckking fake news OPINION rags you bring up. Had he said that, he would have been impeached.

Got it? Not “Why are all these people sneaking in.” “Why are we letting all these people in.”

That's a lie. You've lost that argument.

He was complaining about legal immigration.


That's a lie. He WANTS legal immigration. He wants to STOP illegal immigration. You can't keep telling the same fckking lie over and over again, in the hopes that it will become a fact.

Just as you view undocumented immigrants as “animals” who have no unalienable human rights, so many other xenophobes and racists view all people of color that way regardless of where they were born or how they got to the U.S.

Calling those animals undocumented immigrants is like calling a street corner pusher an undocumented pharmacist. And they ARE animals. Anyone who drags his CHILDREN through jungles just to sell them in prostitution and get on welfare is an ANIMAL.


Meanwhile, about a MILLION LEGAL IMMIGRANTS come to America every year, and they are of ALL races, colors, religions, and national origins.

You again don't know the difference between LEGAL and ILLEGAL.
 

reason10

Governor
That’s not international law. It is an agreement between the U.S. and Canada and is based on the premise that both are safe loci of asylum (whereas Mexico or Guatemala may not be).
Excuse me? It's not United States law.

Also, there are similar laws in Europe.

Quit trying to spin this. You lost the fcking argument, AGAIN.
 
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