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Students LOVE Ocasio-Cortez's New Green Deal....until they learn what is in it.

Discussion in 'Latest Political News and Current Events' started by Nostra, Feb 11, 2019 at 2:28 PM.

  1. The Sage of Main Street

    The Sage of Main Street Governor

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    Liberals Are Agents of the Right Wing They Were Born In

    Because the college-brainwashed brats of the stockholders demand it. Wake up and smell the coffee, because Preppy-lovers are the ones being brewed.
     
  2. Marcus Aurelius

    Marcus Aurelius Mayor Supporting Member

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    I know I used big words, but at least TRY.

    Can you, or can you not, supply 100% power demands in the US as zero-emissions, WITHOUT coal, oil and gas.

    You said YES.

    I asked you to explain.

    Can you explain it, or not?

    Not talking economics. Talking the science of it.

    Can you explain how, as you claim, you can provide 100% of the power requirements in the US as ZERO-EMISSIONS, without using oil, coal and gas?
     
  3. middleview

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    1. You are the one who alleged that the Cortez bill (a non-binding legislation) would somehow make oil, gas and coal illegal....and yet resort to insisting that somehow a non-binding "sense of the House" resolution would force them to close up shop.

    2. and then challenge me to prove you wrong. You're wrong. You assume there is no economic benefit that could be seen by industries converting to renewable energy. You also assume that there would be no overseas market for those products, that those energy companies do not currently have renewable energy development projects and that they don't have non-energy uses for their products.

    still waiting for one of those fact filled posts from you. Certainly none in this thread.
     
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    middleview President Supporting Member

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    Ah, the Stooge of Main Street speaks. Doesn't make much sense...but good to know you are still breathing.
     
  5. Nostra

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    1. Why would Exxon stay open if there is no gas/oil used? You clearly can't think more than 6 seconds into the future.

    2. Oil/Gas companies have billions and billions invested in assets to find, extract, refine, distribute, and sell gas and oil. You think they will shitcan all that and move into electric cars just because some Bubbleheaded Dimwinger said so?

    You are clueless.
     
  6. The Sage of Main Street

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    "It Is What" They Make It to Be. And It Works—For Them.

    All their data are picked and chosen. Even those with the highest GPAs are dumbed down to use that kind of thinking process.
     
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  7. middleview

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    Again...where is the legislation to outlaw oil or gas? Coal is on it's way out as a source of energy, but they are exploring other uses.

    You assume that because the US minimizes the use of oil and gas for energy that the rest of the world will also, because of Cortez's "sense of the house" legislation?

    Again....where do you get that they will be outlawed? Quit dancing around it and show me the proposed law.
     
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  8. The Sage of Main Street

    The Sage of Main Street Governor

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    Use Fewer Sheets of Toilet Paper and You're on Your Way to Green Utopia and PotHead Gold at the End of the Rainbow

    It can be done if we lower our lifestyle to the level of Third World retards.
     
  9. middleview

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    Can we theoretically supply 100% of the power demands in the US with renewable energy? Yes.

    Can I explain it? Yes.

    Can you identify where Cortez's legislation would make oil,coal and gas illegal?
     
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  10. Marcus Aurelius

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    my comments in RED above
     
  11. middleview

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    You posted this:

    nothing fictional in here...
    https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=5729033-Green-New-Deal-FINAL

    and this contains provisions the interviewer asked about

    And that interviewer specifically said that the bill would outlaw gas,oil and coal.

    This thread is about the false allegation that Cortez's bill would make those energy sources illegal. If you want to talk about the economics of a plan to supply 100% of our energy needs with non-polluting sources open up another thread.
     
  12. Marcus Aurelius

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    who dies and made you the decider of what the threa is or is not about? I dont give a shit what someone else posted, asshat. I care about what I posted. You have continually failed to back up your statements, claimed I said things I did not, and moved the goalposts. I thought you might be worthy of coming off the Shit List. I was mistaken. Back you go, fvckwad.
     
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    It seems you also don't give a shit what you posted...since your post contained the legislation and attempted to claim it supported what the interviewer claimed...that the legislation would make oil, gas and coal illegal, that it would ban air travel...

    Easy to tell when you know you've lost...when you resort to insults and name calling.
     
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    Can we theoretically supply 100% of the power demands in the US with renewable energy? Yes. You did not say 'theoretically. You said ti could be done. You're moving the goalposts.

    Of course it would be theoretical since the details of how to do it are not specified in the legislation. The answer depends on what could be done in the next 10 years.
     
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    Denying it doesn't change anything. Everyone who has read any of our many, many exchanges over the years knows you're a liar.
     
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    It's like everyone forgot that they're supposed to be holding the dog's leash, and now the damn thing is running wild, pissing on everything, taking a shit on people's lawns, and humping everything it can get up on.
     
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    Your lack of a single post of mine to prove your allegation is more evidence of your integrity than mine. You made the accusation....put up or shut up.
     
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    Speaking of asshat, fvckwad and giving a shit....you wrote this

    Can this....
    'meeting 100% of the power demands in the United States through clean, renewable and zero-emission energy sources'
    ..occur without this...
    outlaw gas, oil or coal'?


    So the fact is that you were pushing the bullshit that somehow Cortez's bill was going to make gas, oil and coal illegal, even though you can't show where that is in the bill.
     
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