We see them from time to time. Guys wearing a suit but without a collared shirt and a tie. I hope this doesn't offend anybody, but few things look worse and dumber than this awkward combination. It's about like putting a pizza into a big bowl of oatmeal. Or having a loud rapper combined with a classical music orchestra (I actually saw this idiocy once). IMHO it's OK to combine a T-shirt with a pair of jeans, or shorts. It's OK to have a suit with a collar shirt and tie. Western string ties OK too. But a T-shirt alone under a suit jacket. No. Just NO, that's all. :eusa_snooty: And while we're at it, the grubby beards don't look too great either. Why do these guys insist on going around looking like a bum ?