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That darn "liberal media" again.

Arkady

President
I was reading the CNN/Money website's story on the monthly jobs figures. You'd think it would be extremely positive. After all, there was a four-tenths of a point drop in the unemployment rate, in a single month, which is almost unheard of. We had a similar big drop one month in 2010, but that was from a much higher rate (from 9.8), so that was proportionally much smaller than this drop (from 6.7). The last time we had such a proportionally large improvement in a single month was back in the Clinton years!

And this wasn't just a matter of retirees exiting the labor force. The economy added 288,000 new jobs in a single month, which is quite good, blowing away what labor market watchers had expected. That was the best job creation since the start of 2012, and far above average. And that's despite the fact the federal government continues to slash government jobs, putting an increased burden on the private sector.

So, what was the "liberal media's" spin? The headline reads "unemployment rate falls, but for the wrong reasons." This is apparently a reference to the fact that a lot of this was pent-up demand from winter, when bad weather suppressed hiring. Meanwhile, they point out that the economy has a long way to go to get back to where it was before the recession, in the 4% to 5% range. In reality, the unemployment rate hasn't been down to 4% since the end of 2000, which was two recessions ago. We don't need to be back to 4% for the economy to be "fully recovered" to where it was before the recession. According to the NBER, the recession started in December 2007, when the unemployment rate was 5%. We have another 1.3 points to go, to get there, versus the 3.7 points we've fallen so far from the worst of the recession.

I don't mean to downplay the size of the struggle ahead of us. That last bit of improvement is going to be damnably hard to get in the face of government austerity. But the month's data was a really bright spot, and pretending it wasn't is dishonest and counter-productive.
 
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Union_Jack_1972

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Ark,

The unemployment rate is not factual to the true unemployment in this country, and you should know this...

Also of the 288,000 jobs created how many were high earning jobs versus just low wage earning jobs?

Why would this matter?

Well you pointed out the 1990's and it is true we saw massive unemployment dropping during the Clinton years, but we also saw a massive growth in good wage earning jobs that was caused by the Tech Bubble...

So yes the decrease in the Unemployment is positive if the fact is the 288,000 new jobs were more like the ones in the 1990's, but also the fact is the unemployment rate also hides the true unemployment of this country because it does not factor in those that gave up looking...

Sorry to write what I wrote, but I would have posted this to you if Bush were President...
 

Arkady

President
Ark,

The unemployment rate is not factual to the true unemployment in this country, and you should know this...
There are legitimate criticisms of how they do the calculation. What, in particular, did you have in mind?
Also of the 288,000 jobs created how many were high earning jobs versus just low wage earning jobs?
It's tough to say, since the BLS doesn't report that way. Ultimately, we won't have a good feel for the number of high earning versus low earning jobs until much later, when Census income figures come out. However, average hourly and weekly earnings were unchanged in that month, suggesting that we added high and low end jobs in proportion to what already existed:

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t19.htm

Over the last year, average weekly earnings are up 2.2%. That slightly outpaces the rate of inflation, so it suggests that we've been adding higher-earning jobs a little more quickly than would be expected from proportional expansion. In other words, it's not just that we're creating jobs: we're creating good jobs even faster than bad ones.

Well you pointed out the 1990's and it is true we saw massive unemployment dropping during the Clinton years, but we also saw a massive growth in good wage earning jobs that was caused by the Tech Bubble...
The massive growth of good wage earning jobs, in the Clinton years, can't reasonably be attributed, in major part, to the tech bubble. The rise occurred across nearly all sectors, not just in tech, and in nearly all regions, not just tech-heavy regions.

but also the fact is the unemployment rate also hides the true unemployment of this country because it does not factor in those that gave up looking...
Yes. But the BLS also tracks those "discouraged workers," and that rate has been dropping, too:

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm
Sorry to write what I wrote, but I would have posted this to you if Bush were President..
There's nothing wrong with what you wrote; those are all legitimate concerns. But, in this case, they don't take away the good news, they actually underscore it.
 
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