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The nurse committed suicide?

Face it, gabriel. You are a contrarian who insists that no one else has the right to be contrary.

I've never tried to speak for 33 million, but the hundreds of Canadians that I do know certainly have shown no signs of being obsessed with fealty to the British Crown. The trappings of the Monarchy are merely vestigial now even in Great Britain. The true political power is held by the Parliaments in both nations.

Madame's implication was that Australian radio personalities play to the British public simply because they belong to the Commonwealth. I disagree with that assertion. I am of the opinion that their prank was intended only to amuse their local, Australian audience. Our discussion had nothing whatsoever to do with how either Americans, Australians or Canadians select their Heads of State.
It was obviously a bigger story here and so we had more background on the DJs and the Station they worked for. The station was on 'parole' as it was, these OTT shock Pranks were their stock in trade and they had been off Air for three months before for shocking the whole country by bullying a 14 year old girl who had just admitted that she had been raped.

What I said about the Monarchy was also only to give a better understand of Australias relationship with and ties too Britain which are not the same as Americas relation ship with Britain, in part because of the Monarchy because it is still, by their choice their Monarchy. Our Imperialism implied within it Liberty for the People, which again is not a simple concept.

It was not as a statement about how any one feels about that part of our constitutional trilogy called The Monarchy.

The Monarchy, The Church and Parliament, what ever any of us think of it personally it is our balance, our constancy and our stability even as eroded and as unsafe as it seems to be at the moment,

The Presses relationship, as with The Peoples relationship, with Monarchy, is a complex and especially after Diana rather a fragile thing but an understanding does exist. Americans rarely understand any of its complexity or that of a Constitutional Trilogy as opposed to a Mono. Australians, on the otherhand do understand it.

Apart from the fact that it is an absolute No No to air someones conversation without their consent and invasion of Privacy is another No No. Never in a million years did those DJs not wish for this story not to break in Britain .Never. It was their big break. By breaking eggs ! Humpty Dumpty ............
 
The monarchy is a joke. You simply don't have a sense of humor.

A joke or not, it is a part of that natural human structure The Trilogy, each answerable to and complementing the others.

Perfection, it is not but neither is any other system I see especially that of your form Republicanism. It isn't working any better than our old antiquated structues.
 
I posted that the other day ............. with lyrics


Youth always knocks the establishment ........... it is how we evolve.

revolution is coming ...to us all. The thing is that our relationship with Monarchy is older than your very unstable country is, the World are calling you a failed State. It is how we are all going to manage The Revolution, how deep are our roots and how strong is our glue ?
 
There will always be animosity toward one's superiors. It is merely human nature. ;)
Well that isn't exactly the argument for getting rid of Monarchy here, I don't think those who want the end of Monarchy think of her as a Superior but then with God and Government in the equation, so she is not.

Apart from any emotional bond I may feel I just do not see any system which works better. And in times of uncertianty a constant presence is a strength not a weakness.

It is Socialists calling for a Republic but so far I have't seen Socialism work very well either
 
It wasn't meant to be. It was merely an explanation for the America bashing.

I do understand, really I do :) I don't mind the bashing, it is the lack of understanding of older cultures, which on a personal level doesn't bother me at all but because you are the most Powerful Nation in the World is a worry, especially since America is being more and more spoken of abroad as an almost but not quite, failed State.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_monarchs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_monarchs


and before

http://www.britannia.com/history/ebk/ebktime2.html

can't be bothered to go back further but we were a part of the Roman Empire too and before that and before that and before that ...............:) So as we may laugh, and if you look at back copies of Punch and so on, always have, apart from a short and bloody awful period of a Sadistic Puritanical despotic bastard called Cromwell, Monarchy has been a constancy for a very long time which has evolved with and as a part of us. We who came here as hunter gatherers after the last big melting of the Ice.

And many of you did too :)

Our revolutionaries and victims of poverty in fact all those we didn't want to hang, becoming a little squeemish of so many hangings ......were sent to Australia. So yup they have a right to mock but .............. they were not caring of the 'collateral damage'.
 

gabriel

Governor
It was obviously a bigger story here and so we had more background on the DJs and the Station they worked for. The station was on 'parole' as it was, these OTT shock Pranks were their stock in trade and they had been off Air for three months before for shocking the whole country by bullying a 14 year old girl who had just admitted that she had been raped.

What I said about the Monarchy was also only to give a better understand of Australias relationship with and ties too Britain which are not the same as Americas relation ship with Britain, in part because of the Monarchy because it is still, by their choice their Monarchy. Our Imperialism implied within it Liberty for the People, which again is not a simple concept.

It was not as a statement about how any one feels about that part of our constitutional trilogy called The Monarchy.

The Monarchy, The Church and Parliament, what ever any of us think of it personally it is our balance, our constancy and our stability even as eroded and as unsafe as it seems to be at the moment,

The Presses relationship, as with The Peoples relationship, with Monarchy, is a complex and especially after Diana rather a fragile thing but an understanding does exist. Americans rarely understand any of its complexity or that of a Constitutional Trilogy as opposed to a Mono. Australians, on the otherhand do understand it.

Apart from the fact that it is an absolute No No to air someones conversation without their consent and invasion of Privacy is another No No. Never in a million years did those DJs not wish for this story not to break in Britain .Never. It was their big break. By breaking eggs ! Humpty Dumpty ............
as the sovereign is also the sovereign of canada, we understand it as well. americans dont have a clue about these subtleties. i live in two constitutional monarchies and it makes perfect sense to me
 
as the sovereign is also the sovereign of canada, we understand it as well. americans dont have a clue about these subtleties. i live in two constitutional monarchies and it makes perfect sense to me

I know, as daft as it may seem to people who don't live 'under' Monarchy, it really is the more natural way of being until we ourselves are more evolved and can live in anarchy. To me the thought of a Politician being Head of State is total insanity :)
 

gabriel

Governor
I know, as daft as it may seem to people who don't live 'under' Monarchy, it really is the more natural way of being until we ourselves are more evolved and can live in anarchy. To me the thought of a Politician being Head of State is total insanity :)
why do you think america is an insane asylum?? i find american liberals to be as, if not more, ignorant about our system as their conservatives. its all that brainwashing they get in school about their so called perfect constitution and the wisdom of the racists who wrote it.
 

gabriel

Governor
Nurses are professionals with an obligation to protect the privacy of their patients. I imagine that a British subject might consider that obligation to be especially important in the case of a "royal". It's relatively easy for the rest of us to dismiss her apparent actions as evidence of "instability", since we may not share her sense of professional obligation and respect for royalty.

But, it's just as possible that she considered the fact of her allowing herself to be "punked" by these punks, as a mistake at a level for which suicide was the only acceptable response. It's funny how we'll talk about how some bigtime American CEO might be responsible for the loss of $Billions or the deaths of 10's or 100's, and we'll get nary an apology out of him. And..we'll contrast that with stories from other cultures, of CEOs committing suicide in response to that sort of thing.

In those cases, we acknowledge the sense of "honor" displayed by those suicided CEO's. We don't assume that they had "mental issues".
good post
 
why do you think america is an insane asylum?? i find american liberals to be as, if not more, ignorant about our system as their conservatives. its all that brainwashing they get in school about their so called perfect constitution and the wisdom of the racists who wrote it.
It was right for then .........trouble is it seems to be written in Stone.
 
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