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The popular vote isn't a thing

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Wrong. With popular vote a specifically advantaged minority in a couple of metro areas would rule.
How many voters are in those metro areas? How many actually vote for dems or repubs?

New York City gave Clinton about 2,100,000 votes compared to Trump's 500,000.
San Francisco was 345,000 for Clinton vs 37,000 for Trump. La county was 1.8 million for Hillary and 620,000 for Trump.

Does it actually seem feasible to you that less than 5 million people would rule the country?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Yup, by hook or by crook. Y'all could just throw milkshakes and bricks at legislators who oppose the Nat'l Popular Vote Compact. Anything to assure one-party rule. WOOT WOOT! Way to preserve democracy and fight totalitarianism.
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Really? Over 60 million people voted republican. Do you really think the popular vote for president would kill the republican party? If so it is hardly worth saving.
 

Emily

NSDAP Kanzler
I was mimicking your wording; it's really minorities. Blacks, Hispanics, and penthouse liberals in the NYC region and greater LA -- all of whom vote overwhelmingly for one party -- would decide the presidency in every election.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
I was mimicking your wording; it's really minorities. Blacks, Hispanics, and penthouse liberals in the NYC region and greater LA -- all of whom vote overwhelmingly for one party -- would decide the presidency in every election.
Bullshit. That amounts to less than five million voters.
 

Spamature

President
There isn't one election in this country, there are 50 elections. Adding the results of those elections together and declaring them the winner is like going to the point differential between NFL teams and declaring the largest point spread the winner.

1) Everyone knows who is winning their State and by how much. People do and don't show up to vote based on how the election in their State is doing, not on how the national election is going. So there is no logical basis to say that Hillary won some sort of fake point spread battle and that means anything. Many millions of Republicans in California, New York, Illinois, etc. have no incentive to show up for example.

2) The founders were right that small States should have some level of protection from big ones. Big ones today are mostly socialist. They are malevolent to small States. All the more reason they should have more protection

3) Every State has slightly different voting rules, machines, processes, requirements. Again, to claim you can add point spreads together and draw a conclusion is ridiculous. That California can register millions of illegal aliens and allow them to vote while other States don't doesn't make us more "democratic"

4) We aren't a Democracy, we are a Republic. The Feds were to just provide for a national defense and a few other things. There is no reason to have a "Democracy" for a limited function government. The States should control it. And most government should be local. Local government should be democratic
But it's BECOMING a thing.

Status of National Popular Vote Bill in Each State
  • Delaware - Enacted into law. Florida. ...
  • Hawaii - Enacted into law. Iowa. ...
  • Illinois - Enacted into law. Indiana. ...
  • Maryland - Enacted into law. Maine - Passed Maine Senate in 2008. ...
  • New York - Enacted into law. Ohio. ...
  • Rhode Island - Enacted into law. South Carolina. ...
  • Washington - Enacted into law. Wisconsin.
Status of National Popular Vote Bill in Each State | National Popular Vote
 

EatTheRich

President
When in the history of the world has a dictator gained power by benefit of a national popular vote?
Quite a few times, really. One of the most famous modern dictators, Louis-Napoleon Bonaparte, was popularly elected. So was Juan Peron. Hugo Chavez and Nicolas Maduro.
 

EatTheRich

President
I was mimicking your wording; it's really minorities. Blacks, Hispanics, and penthouse liberals in the NYC region and greater LA -- all of whom vote overwhelmingly for one party -- would decide the presidency in every election.
Not unless a LOT of the Americans who don’t fit that description agreed.
 

Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
But it's BECOMING a thing.

Status of National Popular Vote Bill in Each State
  • Delaware - Enacted into law. Florida. ...
  • Hawaii - Enacted into law. Iowa. ...
  • Illinois - Enacted into law. Indiana. ...
  • Maryland - Enacted into law. Maine - Passed Maine Senate in 2008. ...
  • New York - Enacted into law. Ohio. ...
  • Rhode Island - Enacted into law. South Carolina. ...
  • Washington - Enacted into law. Wisconsin.
Status of National Popular Vote Bill in Each State | National Popular Vote

You know this is meaningless, right ?

An interstate compact does not have the authority to tell a state to change its election law. A Constitutional amendment would, but an interstate compact does not.”
 

Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
Bullshit. That amounts to less than five million voters.
Maybe look this stuff up before you cry and look stupid.

Los Angeles County has registered 5.1 million people, or 82 percent of its eligible voters

New York City added 134,194 new voters in 2017. Now there are more than 4.6 million active registered voters in the city




Los Angeles County, with its more than 10 million residents, has more voter registrations than it has citizens old enough to register with a registration rate of 112 percent of its adult citizen population. The entire state of California had a registration rate of 101 percent of age-eligible citizens,the lawsuit said, citing data published by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission.
 
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Spamature

President
You know this is meaningless, right ?

An interstate compact does not have the authority to tell a state to change its election law. A Constitutional amendment would, but an interstate compact does not.”
It isn't meaningless. Nor is it forced.
These are states deciding on their own how they will award their EC votes.

That makes it a thing.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Maybe look this stuff up before you cry and look stupid.

Los Angeles County has registered 5.1 million people, or 82 percent of its eligible voters

New York City added 134,194 new voters in 2017. Now there are more than 4.6 million active registered voters in the city




Los Angeles County, with its more than 10 million residents, has more voter registrations than it has citizens old enough to register with a registration rate of 112 percent of its adult citizen population. The entire state of California had a registration rate of 101 percent of age-eligible citizens,the lawsuit said, citing data published by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission.
1. Iquoted how many voters in New York or LA voted for democrats.
2. I already posted an article debunking the rest or your crap.
 
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