The Russians wanted Trump to win and Hillary to lose. Those or the undeniable facts

[Spamature]

It is truly disturbing to see right winger's desperate attempt to gaslight themselves and change history concerning what we all saw in 2016. So here is yet another challenge for the right.

Please name the actions the Russians took to help Clinton during the election ?

I say this because promoting this lie, at this time, when all of the officials FROM BOTH PARTIES in our govt tell us Russia has kept up sustained propaganda attack on this nation, and will continue that attack going into the upcoming election, is on it's face anti American. You are giving them the aid that they need to accomplish their goal.

This attempt to equivocate in order to find fault on the other side doesn't change anything. If the Democrats were colluding with the Russians then you should be even more alarmed about the attack, not less. So if you are really concerned about Russian having influenced both parties. Then it is a fools errand and a harmful distraction to attempt to root out the problem by chasing after people who no are longer in power, over the people who do have the power to cover up the truth, and allow this situation to continue.

 

[marvin martian]

This post positively reeks of desperation. Shame on you.

 

[Spamature]

This post positively reeks of desperation. Shame on you.

I put a challenge into the post. I see you ran away from it. Shite talking while backing down is the epitome of desperation.

 

[Corruptbuddha]

It is truly disturbing to see right winger's desperate attempt to gaslight themselves and change history concerning what we all saw in 2016. So here is yet another challenge for the right.

Please name the actions the Russians took to help Clinton during the election ?

I say this because promoting this lie, at this time, when all of the officials FROM BOTH PARTIES in our govt tell us Russia has kept up sustained propaganda attack on this nation, and will continue that attack going into the upcoming election, is on it's face anti American. You are giving them the aid that they need to accomplish their goal.

This attempt to equivocate in order to find fault on the other side doesn't change anything. If the Democrats were colluding with the Russians then you should be even more alarmed about the attack, not less. So if you are really concerned about Russian having influenced both parties. Then it is a fools errand and a harmful distraction to attempt to root out the problem by chasing after people who no are longer in power, over the people who do have the power to cover up the truth, and allow this situation to continue.

Please name the actions the Russians took to help Clinton during the election ?

Be a pleasure. Since most of the information in the bullshit Steele 'dossier' was taken from Kremlin 'sources', it's safe to reason that Putin was helping Clinton with it, as the dossier helps Clinton MUCH more than Trump.

Of course we all know that it was never Putin's alleged goal to help Trump or help Clinton, Putin's goal, as much as can be known about such as thing, was to inject instability and distrust into the American system. The more we fight each other, the less we fight him.

I also don't believe either candidate 'colluded' with the Kremlin to that end but that they both were victims of the campaign to 'muddy the waters', so to speak.

And all of this is still a big 'IF'. Exactly what Russia's level of involvement was is still unknown.

 

[marvin martian]

Be a pleasure. Since most of the information in the bullshit Steele 'dossier' was taken from Kremlin 'sources', it's safe to reason that Putin helping Clinton with it as the dossier helps Clinton MUCH more than Trump.

Of course we all know that it was never Putin's goal to help Trump or help Clinton, Putin's goal, as much as can be known about such as thing, was to inject instability and distrust into the American system. The more we fight each other, the less we fight him.

I also don't believe either candidate 'colluded' with the Kremlin to that end but that they both were victims of the campaign to 'muddy the waters', so to speak.

And all of this is still a big 'IF'. Exactly what Russia's level of involvement was is still unknown.

Not to mention Christopher Steele was clearly a double agent, and since he's now missing, the shit's about to hit the fan.

 

[Corruptbuddha]

Not to mention Christopher Steele was clearly a double agent, and since he's now missing, the shit's about to hit the fan.

Steele was a Clinton operative who was being fed horseshit on Trump by someone in Russia, the FBI, and others.

That's my take.

 

[EatTheRich]

Be a pleasure. Since most of the information in the bullshit Steele 'dossier' was taken from Kremlin 'sources', it's safe to reason that Putin was helping Clinton with it, as the dossier helps Clinton MUCH more than Trump.

Of course we all know that it was never Putin's alleged goal to help Trump or help Clinton, Putin's goal, as much as can be known about such as thing, was to inject instability and distrust into the American system. The more we fight each other, the less we fight him.

I also don't believe either candidate 'colluded' with the Kremlin to that end but that they both were victims of the campaign to 'muddy the waters', so to speak.

And all of this is still a big 'IF'. Exactly what Russia's level of involvement was is still unknown.

According to Trump's ODNI, representing the collective judgment of the US Intel community, his goal was to help Trump. Which suggests that Steele's Kremlin sources were either giving info on background to undermine that effort, or unwittingly making admissions contrary to interest.

 

[Spamature]

Be a pleasure. Since most of the information in the bullshit Steele 'dossier' was taken from Kremlin 'sources', it's safe to reason that Putin helping Clinton with it as the dossier helps Clinton MUCH more than Trump.

Of course we all know that it was never Putin's goal to help Trump or help Clinton, Putin's goal, as much as can be known about such as thing, was to inject instability and distrust into the American system. The more we fight each other, the less we fight him.

I also don't believe either candidate 'colluded' with the Kremlin to that end but that they both were victims of the campaign to 'muddy the waters', so to speak.

And all of this is still a big 'IF'. Exactly what Russia's level of involvement was is still unknown.

The dossier was not part of the election. The Clinton campaign didn't use it in the campaign. Stop trying to change history and muddy the waters.

Papadopoulos was the first person that we know outside of the DNC that Russia had broken into the DNC computer system and tried to arrange a meeting between the Russians and the Trump campaign.
The Russians directly offered the Trump campaign dirt on Clinton in exchange for removing sanctions. Trump even bragged that he would have that dirt in a speech just days later.

The Trump campaign changed the GOP platform to favor Russia and then the Russians released the DNC emails they had stolen a week later. Trump then explicitly asked for Russia's help in a speech. Then the Podesta emails were released one hour after the pussy grabbing tape was made public and had even tipped the Trump people off to their intentions to do so. (Soon it will Podesta's turn in the barrel, was not a wild guess ).

There were promises that sanctions would be lifted under a Trump administration and Flynn even called the Russians to plead that they not react to sanctions imposed under Obama and then lied about it. So far Trump has acted on preventing new sanctions from being imposed with disregard to the intentions of congress concerning the sanctions they imposed.

So no these kinds of things did not happen on "both sides" . They happened on ONE SIDE. Again stop trying to change history.

 

[Corruptbuddha]

According to Trump's ODNI, representing the collective judgment of the US Intel community, his goal was to help Trump. Which suggests that Steele's Kremlin sources were either giving info on background to undermine that effort, or unwittingly making admissions contrary to interest.

Or, as I said, not wanting to do anything more than throw shade at the American electorate.

 

[Corruptbuddha]

The dossier was not part of the election. The Clinton campaign didn't use it in the campaign. Stop trying to change history and muddy the waters.

Papadopoulos was the first person that we know outside of the DNC that Russia had broken into the DNC computer system and tried to arrange a meeting between the Russians and the Trump campaign.
The Russians directly offered the Trump campaign dirt on Clinton in exchange for removing sanctions. Trump even bragged that he would have that dirt in a speech just days later.

The Trump campaign chanced the GOP platform to favor Russia and then the Russians released the DNC emails they had stolen. Trump then explicitly asked for Russia's help in a speech. Then the Podesta emails were released one hour after the pussy grabbing tape was made public and had even tipped the Trump people off to their intentions to do so.

There were promises that sanctions would be lifted under a Trump administration and Flynn even called the Russians to plead that they not react to sanctions imposed under Obama and then lied about it. So far Trump has acted on preventing new sanctions from being imposed with disregard to the intentions of congress concerning the sanctions they imposed.

So no these kinds of things did not happen on "both sides" . They happened on ONE SIDE. Again stop trying to change history.

You didn't ask what the Clinton campaign did or did not do. What you asked was what did Russia (allegedly) do to help Clinton. The answer to that question was the dossier and the information given to Steele by the Kremlin.

Whether or not Clinton actually used that information is irrelevant.

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

It is truly disturbing to see right winger's desperate attempt to gaslight themselves and change history concerning what we all saw in 2016. So here is yet another challenge for the right.

Please name the actions the Russians took to help Clinton during the election ?

I say this because promoting this lie, at this time, when all of the officials FROM BOTH PARTIES in our govt tell us Russia has kept up sustained propaganda attack on this nation, and will continue that attack going into the upcoming election, is on it's face anti American. You are giving them the aid that they need to accomplish their goal.

This attempt to equivocate in order to find fault on the other side doesn't change anything. If the Democrats were colluding with the Russians then you should be even more alarmed about the attack, not less. So if you are really concerned about Russian having influenced both parties. Then it is a fools errand and a harmful distraction to attempt to root out the problem by chasing after people who no are longer in power, over the people who do have the power to cover up the truth, and allow this situation to continue.

And your point? Israel wanted Trump to win also.

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

Not to mention Christopher Steele was clearly a double agent, and since he's now missing, the shit's about to hit the fan.

They'll find the body soon

 

[Spamature]

And your point? Israel wanted Trump to win also.

Do you have evidence that Israel launched a attack to change the outcome of our elections ?

 

[Spamature]

You didn't ask what the Clinton campaign did or did not do. What you asked was what did Russia (allegedly) do to help Clinton. The answer to that question was the dossier and the information given to Steele by the Kremlin.

Whether or not Clinton actually used that information is irrelevant.

First of all the Russians like Steele had no idea that Clinton's lawyers had hired Focus GPS to investigate the Trump. So how could they have helped Clinton through the dossier. Especially since it was not used by the campaign in the election. In fact what evidence do you have that the Russians even knew the dossier existed before it was made public ?

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

Do you have evidence that Israel launched a attack to change the outcome of our elections ?

Do you have any evidence that Russia attacked? Other than the same people who said Iraq had WMDS

 

[Winston]

It is truly disturbing to see right winger's desperate attempt to gaslight themselves and change history concerning what we all saw in 2016. So here is yet another challenge for the right.

Please name the actions the Russians took to help Clinton during the election ?

I say this because promoting this lie, at this time, when all of the officials FROM BOTH PARTIES in our govt tell us Russia has kept up sustained propaganda attack on this nation, and will continue that attack going into the upcoming election, is on it's face anti American. You are giving them the aid that they need to accomplish their goal.

This attempt to equivocate in order to find fault on the other side doesn't change anything. If the Democrats were colluding with the Russians then you should be even more alarmed about the attack, not less. So if you are really concerned about Russian having influenced both parties. Then it is a fools errand and a harmful distraction to attempt to root out the problem by chasing after people who no are longer in power, over the people who do have the power to cover up the truth, and allow this situation to continue.

What planet are you on kid, the Russians gave the Clintons $150,000,000.00 Really, why not investigate that?

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

First of all the Russians like Steele had no idea that Clinton's lawyers had hired Focus GPS to investigate the Trump. So how could they have helped Clinton through the dossier. Especially since it was not used by the campaign in the election. In fact what evidence do you have that the Russians even knew the dossier existed before it was made public ?

CLINTONS COLLUDED WITH A FOREIGN POWER.

 

[Spamature]

Do you have any evidence that Russia attacked? Other than the same people who said Iraq had WMDS

When did the FBI say that Iraq had WMD ?

 

[Spamature]

What planet are you on kid, the Russians gave the Clintons $150,000,000.00 Really, why not investigate that?

On the one where that lie was debunked long ago. The guy who donated the money had already sold the company you are talking about by the time he donated the Clinton foundation.

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

When did the FBI say that Iraq had WMD ?

America's security agency all of them said so.