There is no such thing as "a career public servant"

[ObamacareForever]

What do you consider "succeeding" in the CIA?

successfully gathering and facilitating the gathering of intelligence

 

[ObamacareForever]

That is too bad. There are far too many leeches voting in our elections. Voting should be limited to tax-paying landowners.

Are you bigoted towards renters?

 

[marvin martian]

Are you bigoted towards renters?

No, but I don't think you people should be allowed to vote.

 

[marvin martian]

successfully gathering and facilitating the gathering of intelligence

A relatively sharp high-schooler can do that. These people should be in that job no more than a year, two at the most. Then go get a real job.

 

[ObamacareForever]

No, but I don't think you people should be allowed to vote.

I don't think you people should be allowed to vote either. So we are even.

 

[RickWA]

Who says any of that is normal?

I just did. And most normal people would agree.

 

[RickWA]

What if someone wants to specialize their skill set?

I am a chemist and chemical engineer. I founded a company catering to the high tech sector...heavily high purity and process applications. Then we added on varied engineering disciplines (mechanical, electrical, architectural, civil/structural, etc.). We developed and grew. We began in semiconductor...then pharmaceutical, life science, biotech, universities, defense, etc. One can hone a core talent and diversify in parallel. Think of it as a multi-sport athlete...say Tony Gonzales.

 

[ObamacareForever]

I just did. And most normal people would agree.

Let's quantify normal as someone within 2 standard deviations of the mean in every aspect.
Is your level of wealth inside 2 standard deviations of the mean level of household wealth in the US? Does that make you abnormal?

 

[ObamacareForever]

I am a chemist and chemical engineer. I founded a company catering to the high tech sector...heavily high purity and process applications. Then we added on varied engineering disciplines (mechanical, electrical, architectural, civil/structural, etc.). We developed and grew. We began in semiconductor...then pharmaceutical, life science, biotech, universities, defense, etc. One can hone a core talent and diversify in parallel. Think of it as a multi-sport athlete...say Tony Gonzales.

Tony Gonazalez was an anomaly. Michael Jordan tried a 2nd sport and it didn't pan out very well. The world was a better place when he did one thing well instead attempting everything under the sun.

 

[RickWA]

Tony Gonazalez was an anomaly. Michael Jordan tried a 2nd sport and it didn't pan out very well. The world was a better place when he did one thing well instead attempting everything under the sun.

Nearly every kid I knew played multiple sports. I played three through HS, and then just hoops in college. My son played three through HS and currently is a DE at Air Force. It makes you better.

 

[ObamacareForever]

Nearly every kid I knew played multiple sports. I played three through HS, and then just hoops in college. My son played three through HS and currently is a DE at Air Force. It makes you better.

How long till they had choose a path to specialize their skills?

 

[RickWA]

How long till they had choose a path to specialize their skills?

Dunno. You'd have to ask them. The fact is that, in playing multiple sports, they were BETTER prepared to excel in their fields...and coaches INSISTED upon it.

 

[ObamacareForever]

Dunno. You'd have to ask them. The fact is that, in playing multiple sports, they were BETTER prepared to excel in their fields...and coaches INSISTED upon it.

All youths develop(or at least should develop) the same base of skills, and at the onset of adulthood generally take the same skill base and take different routes towards specializing those skills. And those specialized skills sets make the economy(or in this case the government) more efficient.
For Example: taking an accountant from the IRS who has specialized knowledge of taxation and rotating them into a diplomatic position in the state department makes no sense. They have no knowledge base to succeed in the position.

 

[RickWA]

All youths develop(or at least should develop) the same base of skills, and at the onset of adulthood generally take the same skill base and take different routes towards specializing those skills. And those specialized skills sets make the economy(or in this case the government) more efficient.
For Example: taking an accountant from the IRS who has specialized knowledge of taxation and rotating them into a diplomatic position in the state department makes no sense. They have no knowledge base to succeed in the position.

No, I would never advocate rotating government sloths from one agency to the next. No member of a bureaucratic agency should be a career public employee. I said folks need to move into private enterprise. We don't need "IRS specialists". Cross-competencies are a good thing...as is a balanced perspective that comes from working in competitive private enterprise.

It is clear we do not agree. That's ok.

 

[Spamature]

...in the bureaucratic sector. If you spend your entire career in a taxpayer-funded job that executes in the realm of protracted state agency, you are beneath a suckling pig. That pig, at least, graduates from the stage of parasite. A lifetime spent feeding on the productivity and redistributed funds that others earn is the very definition of leech - unaccountable, unseasoned by real experience, unchallenged by competitive marketplace, and permanently ensconced or lodged in a moist cavity of our republic.

We need term limits on bureaucrats...and once those terms expire, these people must be prohibited from vocational exposure to government agencies moving forward. De-populate northern Virginia as well as Maryland of this giant, metastasizing tumor that is draining the national body of liberty and decency.

Any time I hear some hack politician reference "career public servant" I am sickened - as we all should be. If you aren't an educator, a first responder, or a member of our armed forces...you do not belong in this category any more than I do. Time to run these hacks off.

Yeah f*ck those cops, firefighters, park rangers, food inspectors, V. A nurses and doctors, scientists, FBI, DEA, agents , soldiers, pilots, and sailors, and all the people who work to support their efforts.

 

[marvin martian]

Yeah f*ck those cops, firefighters, park rangers, food inspectors, V. A nurses and doctors, scientists, FBI, DEA, agents , soldiers, pilots, and sailors, and all the people who work to support their efforts.

Ah, the battle cry of your Antifa pals.

 

[RickWA]

Yeah f*ck those cops, firefighters, park rangers, food inspectors, V. A nurses and doctors, scientists, FBI, DEA, agents , soldiers, pilots, and sailors, and all the people who work to support their efforts.

You should have read the post to which you replied.

Then again, your history demonstrates that you have no qualms about appearing completely foolish.

 

[freyasman]

Who says any of that is normal?

I wish it was the norm, for a lot more of us.

 

[Spamature]

You should have read the post to which you replied.

Then again, your history demonstrates that you have no qualms about appearing completely foolish.

So as long as they risk their necks for your hide they are okay. But should they ever seek advancement beyond that position with the govt they become pigs.

Do I have it right ?

 

[freyasman]

What if someone wants to specialize their skill set?

"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."

-Robert A. Heinlein