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[Wahbooz]

pleaseeeeeee.... It's interesting how people like John Bolton, Jim Mattis, and John Kelly instantly become Liberals by Trump just snapping his fingers.

 

[Jen]

They are neocons. Neocons ruled the GOP for a long time. Some neocons (most, maybe) are RINO's. GWBush is a neocon. Nation builders, war mongers. They took us into needless wars in the ME.

Trump is a populist. He does not believe in nation building or needless wars. Had he run and won as a Democrat and his ideas had been exactly as they now are.........Democrats would love him. Democrats hate him because he ran as a Republican.

Trump was once a Democrat. Some of his kids are Democrats. His values haven't changed. He ran as a Republican because he's not stupid. He said that IF he ever ran for POTUS he would run to win. After Obama, a Republican was going to be elected. So he ran as a Republican.

This is the truth. Neocons (i.e. Bolton) do not like him. RINO's (i.e. McCain, Romney, the Bush family) do not like him. And of course, Democrats can't like him even though they once loved all of his ideas............He ran as a Republican so he must be hated.

It is stupid partisan politics with the Democrats and the Republicans (the neocons and RINO's) were never going to like him because he is really not a Republican.

I have never written this here or anywhere before, @Wahbooz but I think you might be the one person who just might get what I am saying.

I hope I'm right.

 

[Wahbooz]

They are neocons. Neocons ruled the GOP for a long time. Some neocons (most, maybe) are RINO's. GWBush is a neocon. Nation builders, war mongers. They took us into needless wars in the ME.

Trump is a populist. He does not believe in nation building or needless wars. Had he run and won as a Democrat and his ideas had been exactly as they now are.........Democrats would love him. Democrats hate him because he ran as a Republican.

Trump was once a Democrat. Some of his kids are Democrats. His values haven't changed. He ran as a Republican because he's not stupid. He said that IF he ever ran for POTUS he would run to win. After Obama, a Republican was going to be elected. So he ran as a Republican.

This is the truth. Neocons (i.e. Bolton) do not like him. RINO's (i.e. McCain, Romney, the Bush family) do not like him. And of course, Democrats can't like him even though they once loved all of his ideas............He ran as a Republican so he must be hated.

It is stupid partisan politics with the Democrats and the Republicans (the neocons and RINO's) were never going to like him because he is really not a Republican.

I have never written this here or anywhere before, @Wahbooz but I think you might be the one person who just might get what I am saying.

I hope I'm right.

Well some of that i agree with, Jen. I don't see Romney or McCain as neocons, the neocons took over the Republican party at the 2000 convention. Agreed, Bush became a nation builder under the control of Cheney. Bolton always seemed to me to be a warmonger, but still he did have a sense of ethics. Even Kelly and Mattis couldn't stay in the administration.

Trump was a Democrat for sure, and yes, he ran as a Republican because a Democrat would not win again after having a Democrat president. But for all I knew about Trump long before he chose to run, he was a crook and should never have won.

The man even got his father in trouble when he got him to loan millions to his failing casino. It's only fitting his "8th Wonder of the World would sell for $0.04 on the dollar. Karma perhaps?

 

[Wahbooz]

 

[Jen]

Well some of that i agree with, Jen. I don't see Romney or McCain as neocons, the neocons took over the Republican party at the 2000 convention. Agreed, Bush became a nation builder under the control of Cheney. Bolton always seemed to me to be a warmonger, but still he did have a sense of ethics. Even Kelly and Mattis couldn't stay in the administration.

Trump was a Democrat for sure, and yes, he ran as a Republican because a Democrat would not win again after having a Democrat president. But for all I knew about Trump long before he chose to run, he was a crook and should never have won.

The man even got his father in trouble when he got him to loan millions to his failing casino. It's only fitting his "8th Wonder of the World would sell for $0.04 on the dollar. Karma perhaps?

Romney and McCain are RINO's........... RINO's and neocons aren't the same thing, but the GOP is made up of both. I thought I made that clear.

Cheney was the defacto president for Bush just as Valerie Jarrett was the defacto for Obama. Cheney and Valerie are both Rasputin-level evil.

Boltin IS a warmonger as are Kelly and Mattis and when Trump wouldn't go along with that it pissed them off and they left.

All presidents are crooked in some way. The Clinton Crime family is definitely crooked.
Trump, though far from perfect, is a good president. And again........had he run and won as a Democrat, Democrats would love him (even if he was exactly the same as he is now).

 

[Wahbooz]

Romney and McCain are RINO's........... RINO's and neocons aren't the same thing, but the GOP is made up of both. I thought I made that clear.

Cheney was the defacto president for Bush just as Valerie Jarrett was the defacto for Obama. Cheney and Valerie are both Rasputin-level evil.

Boltin IS a warmonger as are Kelly and Mattis and when Trump wouldn't go along with that it pissed them off and they left.

All presidents are crooked in some way. The Clinton Crime family is definitely crooked.
Trump, though far from perfect, is a good president. And again........had he run and won as a Democrat, Democrats would love him (even if he was exactly the same as he is now).

Well the Republican party has changed way too much from the days my Whig ancestors voted in the Jackson convention, and changed from my parents days. the Republican party to me does not stand with the tenants of what it used to be

I don't see Kelly or Mattis as warmongers, they were good officers. Good examples of warmongers would be Westmoreland and Patton. And you can add Johnson and McNamara to that. They lived for war, and wanted to benefit from it.

 

[Jen]

Well the Republican party has changed way too much from the days my Whig ancestors voted in the Jackson convention, and changed from my parents days. the Republican party to me does not stand with the tenants of what it used to be

I don't see Kelly or Mattis as warmongers, they were good officers. Good examples of warmongers would be Westmoreland and Patton. And you can add Johnson and McNamara to that. They lived for war, and wanted to benefit from it.

Everything always changes.
The Democrat Party is just about ready to go openly Socialist. If Bernie were to get the nomination..........Democrats would be Socialists whether they like it or not, whether they believe it or not. And after Nancy Pelosi is gone, the next leading Democrat is likely to be just as Socialist as Bernie or Elizabeth Warren.

The war mongers of the GOP weren't necessarily bad. I liked Bolton, Kelly, and Mattis. But their time is gone.........peace is better than war if it can be brokered.

Those of us who are old need to realize that there will never be a perfect person to stand up there and be our president. And both parties will be in a constant state of change.

 

[Wahbooz]

Everything always changes.
The Democrat Party is just about ready to go openly Socialist. If Bernie were to get the nomination..........Democrats would be Socialists whether they like it or not, whether they believe it or not. And after Nancy Pelosi is gone, the next leading Democrat is likely to be just as Socialist as Bernie or Elizabeth Warren.

The war mongers of the GOP weren't necessarily bad. I liked Bolton, Kelly, and Mattis. But their time is gone.........peace is better than war if it can be brokered.

Those of us who are old need to realize that there will never be a perfect person to stand up there and be our president. And both parties will be in a constant state of change.

Speaking of "Socialists", I'm concerned with Trump buddying up to Putin, and his idea he can do whatever he wants.

Peace will always be better than war, but when war is evident it's important to have people at the helm who can properly prosecute a war, and make sure as many as possible survive.

 

[Jen]

Speaking of "Socialists", I'm concerned with Trump buddying up to Putin, and his idea he can do whatever he wants.

Peace will always be better than war, but when war is evident it's important to have people at the helm who can properly prosecute a war, and make sure as many as possible survive.

I believe that Trump has proven that he can do what it takes in war to make sure there are few casualties. He didn't strike at Iran after they took down our drone because they didn't take out lives. But when they did take an American life, Trump hit fast and hard and took out exactly who was intended........no collateral damage. Just the exact target.

Trump responses were measured, strong, precise. That was good.

Trump isn't cozying up to Putin any more than Hillary was trying to do with the reset button. It's best to keep friends close.........and enemies even closer. Some of what you are hearing about Trump and Putin and all of the Trump bravado that is reported by media that hates him is exaggerated.

Watch what Trump does, not what he says or what is said about him. Most of the talk is just posturing.

 

[Wahbooz]

I believe that Trump has proven that he can do what it takes in war to make sure there are few casualties. He didn't strike at Iran after they took down our drone because they didn't take out lives. But when they did take an American life, Trump hit fast and hard and took out exactly who was intended........no collateral damage. Just the exact target.

Trump responses were measured, strong, precise. That was good.

Trump isn't cozying up to Putin any more than Hillary was trying to do with the reset button. It's best to keep friends close.........and enemies even closer. Some of what you are hearing about Trump and Putin and all of the Trump bravado that is reported by media that hates him is exaggerated.

Watch what Trump does, not what he says or what is said about him. Most of the talk is just posturing.

I wouldn't trust Putin any further than I could throw him. He was the KGB.

Only time can tell about that. It depends on what the result of Trumps actions are, if any of his actions create a new war situation. North Korea is still building their armament.

 

[Jen]

I wouldn't trust Putin any further than I could throw him. He was the KGB.

Only time can tell about that. It depends on what the result of Trumps actions are, if any of his actions create a new war situation. North Korea is still building their armament.

The world is difficult to deal with. I don't trust Putin or just about anyone. I am watching too..........

It has been so nice talking with you again, Wahbooz. I've missed you and I'm glad you are back.
G'nite.

 

[Wahbooz]

The world is difficult to deal with. I don't trust Putin or just about anyone. I am watching too..........

It has been so nice talking with you again, Wahbooz. I've missed you and I'm glad you are back.
G'nite.

We live in a dangerous world, Jen, and it can get even more dangerous. I hope we don't see.

Nice talking to you too, Jen, and I missed you too. Gd'nite.