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This is what the Trump run, Trump humping, govt looks like to me.

Discussion in 'That's JACKED UP!' started by Spamature, Oct 23, 2019.

  1. Spamature

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    I am not the POTUS. But I do know that Trump's top adviser on this matter QUIT over this very matter. So I guess we can tell from that there likely might have been an alternative to what was actually done.

    As for the world, how many of the refugees from this situation did the US take in under Trump versus those people who you say didn't do dick ? On top of having to watched as the Trump and Trump supporters rant that they were destroying their countries and culture by taking them in, and fanning the flames of dissatisfaction and hate among their people for doing so.

    Wow !
     
  2. PhilFish

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    we werent discussing refugees. we were discussing the withdrawal and it's effect on the kurds who helped us.

    are you doing your goalpost shuffle again?
     
  3. Spamature

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    I bet you wish your troll game was as strong as Daddy's pimp hand. But if you put in work out there day in and day out you might someday be his bottom and make all the others jealous.
     
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  4. PhilFish

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    wtf?
     
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    You just called it the extremely complicated Syrian problem, which the refugees were a part of. And as to that problem the didn't do dick people stepped up while Trump mocked them for it. And as Trump so "assholedly" shrugged off, a reforming ISIS will be their problem to deal with too, because of his refusal to listen to the advisers and generals he claims to know so much more than.
     
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    It's the game he wants to play in this thread. I am just obliging him. Plus it had a typo.
     
  7. PhilFish

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    what was being advised, on the 50, no 28 soldiers there? meanwhile...are we (Americans) tired of the endless committment...yes or no? where is everybody else?
     
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    I assume it was the leave them there as a group who Turkey nor Syria would dare attack because it would be an attack on the United States of America's forces. And that would in their minds come with greater consequences than rewards. So you feel that maintaining 28 soldier some kind of a hardship for the American military ? Was so onerous that it was America's reputation and trust ? Mattis didn't and he even wrote an oped about after he quit.
     
  9. marvin martian

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    Exactly. Stay away from drugs, kids.
     
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    Did I say that, no. So how I may feel on the matter would require a question.

    I do not feel that leaving 28 soldiers behind is and imposition
     
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    But he gave the go ahead for Assad and Putin to slaughter people who fought in our place and this is the only public reason given for it. Anybody can see this excuse is a obvious lie that should not be used to justify what he did. Yet if anything else is suggested it will be shouted down as a conspiracy theory born out of Trump hate. Because when ever excuses can't be made for him that is the goto defense.

    On the flip side of that coin you have the atmosphere of fear. Where questioning him is forbidden and absolute praise and utter devotion is mandatory, else you face a potential political career execution. In its own way it is just like Saddam's Iraq only the shredders have been replaced with tweets and rallies.
     
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    What exactly are you babbling about? it reads as though you are suggesting that Trump called Putin and Assad and asked them to go slaughter them some Kurds.
     
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    Trump said his a speech yesterday that he knew the offensive had been planned for a long time. He knew what was going to happen, he was also warned it would happen. So his removal of US troops WAS the go ahead for it to start.
     
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    In his head, that's very likely what happened. Extreme TDS is a sad thing, indeed.
     
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    Seems to me then the appropriate thing to do would be to remove those 28 individuals from harm's Way.I imagine he wasn't the only one that knew that Syria and Russia wanted to influence and assert control in that region. My question then is where the hell was everybody else?

    Meanwhile, as evidenced by the links that I provided, this situation has been a quagmire for many many years. Even Obama himself didn't know, and couldn't figure out, what to do so he punted.

    somehow, and for some reason, that doesn't bother you. But you have everything to say about Trump's actions, yet offer no constructive suggestions of your own. Your exercise is merely to criticize.

    Meanwhile objective persons know that there is no out that would provide both the safeguarding of American troops, and lives in the Syrian region. Do you know why that is? because hundreds of thousands of individuals have been killed there by a multiplicity of Nations, and principally by Syria. what escapes you is the northern Nation seems to give as much of a shit as the United States has. Yet nobody calls any other nation into question, or to the carpet, for their lack of contribution and their indifference.

    so why then should the United States continue to serve as the moral buttress for the rest of the world that seemingly gives no shit whatsoever. That's a level of moral turpitude that should not be tolerated
     
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    When Obama created ISIS, he made a conundrum for the left. This is the fallout. Now we have the left braying for more war, and opposing getting our soldiers out of harm's way because Orange Man bad.
     
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    That's pretty much been my exchange with what's his name. Trump bad oh so bad bad bad bad. But when asked for a potential solution none is offered other than bad bad. Then when presented with articles referencing Obama in similar situations having punted, no comment other than bad bad followed by a backhanded insult. Entertaining stuff don't you think
     
  18. Spamature

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    Again, did you ask where was America when the refugees were pouring out of that country looking for a safe haven ? We could have certain absorbed as many of them as any of the nations that took them in. But America stood by and let that burden fall on them and they took that load as their part in the effort.

    As far as Obama goes his term ended. But it did end with him pledging this nation would not abandon the Kurds. The military leaders on into the Trump administration stood by that pledge, pleaded with Trump to stand by it as well, and then quit when they realized Trump was going to go back on it.

    The safeguarding of the troops was being done by the might of the US military backing them up and America's political power to pursued the rest of the world to follow it. Trump chose to have the US military retreat in the face the Turkish military and he then even cancelled sanctions the day after imposing them. Making a mockery of any claim to political power in regards to the situation in Syria.

    As to why the US should take the leading role in the world's affairs. The last time we sat back and just watched this guy in German with a funny mustache decided he should be the one to do it.
     
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    It was entertaining for the first few months of Trump's administration. Now the 'KKKrats' behavior is downright disturbing.
     
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    For decades it was "out of the middle East", down with US meddling, it's for the oil, etc

    Now a US president actually had the balls to remove troops from what has been an untenable situation.....and suddenly it's all wrong.

    Un..real.
     
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