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Time to give up on the collusion fantasy, folks.

Discussion in 'Latest Political News and Current Events' started by Nostra, May 18, 2019.

  1. Nostra

    Nostra Governor

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    We have several threads started in the past few days saying "Well, what about this"..........."This lefty wrote an article about collusion"...yada.........yada...........yada.

    It's over.

    Mueller crushed your fantasy. He looked at all of it.

    NO Collusion.

    Hillary lost.

    It really is time for you clowns to accept reality.
     
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  2. The truth

    The truth Council Member

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    Why are you bringing it up?You still afraid of Hillary?
     
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  3. kaz

    kaz Small l libertarian

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    Um ... you think Nostra is bringing this up? Have you been in any of the other threads on the board where your fellow Democrats are still hyping collusion? You didn't know that? Seriously? I mean really, you didn't know that?
     
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  4. Jen

    Jen meh

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    Any collusion that was done was done by Democrats.

    I don't even open those stupid "what about this" posts. In fact, right now I am not opening a single Lefty post. They are trash posts.
     
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  5. Nostra

    Nostra Governor

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    Bringing what up? liberal delusions?
    I'm bringing it up to mock the idiots still clinging to a long ago debunked fantasy.
     
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  6. redtide

    redtide Mayor

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    yes and no, I is now time to look at those who actually colluded to undo a US election. Obama, his ilk the DNC and several deep state hate mongers need to be locked up
     
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  7. llovejim

    llovejim Current Champion

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    why does anybody believe someone just quoting the summary of Mueller's Report is hyping collusion, and not just proving it actually happened at least 127 times? Since collusion is not against the law, just the Trumpies meeting in secret with russians knowing they had hacked DNC servers which is against the law, and knowing they wanted Trump to win as per Putin's orders, and there was coordination in leaking those hacked emails on wikileaks, IS OBVIOUS COLLUSION AS DEFINED BY A STANDARD DICTIONARY-

    col·lu·sion
    /kəˈlo͞oZHən/
    noun
    1. secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.
      "the armed forces were working in collusion with drug traffickers"
      synonyms: conspiracy, connivance, complicity, intrigue, plotting, secret understanding, collaboration, scheming
      "there has been collusion between the security forces and paramilitary groups"
     
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  8. llovejim

    llovejim Current Champion

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    And also you hate being told facts when you are used to listening to Trump and Fox. wouldn't want those delicate brain cells of yours to be inundated with truth, all of a sudden!! oh, the humanity!! what a snowflake you are!!

    speaking of liars-

    trump lies meme.
     
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  9. llovejim

    llovejim Current Champion

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    ONE MORE TIME...directly from the Mueller Report summary as linked...have someone you trust read it and try to explain it to you so you can quit embarrassing yourself because you still somehow believe the Report exonerates trump and his cronies from collusion with russians...

    RUSSIAN HACKING OPERATIONS

    At the same time that the IRA operation began to focus on supporting candidate Trump in early 2016, the Russian government employed a second form of interference: cyber intrusions (hacking) and releases of hacked materials damaging to the Clinton Campaign. The Russian intelligence service known as the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Army (GRU) carried out these operations.

    In March 2016, the GRU began hacking the email accounts of Clinton Campaign volunteers and employees, including campaign chairman John Podesta. In April 2016, the GRU hacked into the computer networks of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) and the Democratic National Committee (DNC). The GRU stole hundreds of thousands of documents from the compromised email accounts and networks. Around the time that the DNC announced in mid-June 2016 the Russian government's role in hacking its network, the GRU began disseminating stolen materials through the fictitious online personas "DCLeaks" and "Guccifer 2.0." The GRU later released additional materials through the organization WikiLeaks.

    The presidential campaign of Donald J. Trump ("Trump Campaign" or "Campaign") showed interest in WikiLeaks's releases of documents and welcomed their potential to damage candidate Clinton. Beginning in June 2016, [Redacted: Harm to Ongoing Matter] forecast to senior Campaign officials that WikiLeaks would release information damaging to candidate Clinton. WikiLeaks's first release came in July 2016. Around the same time, candidate Trump announced that he hoped Russia would recover emails described as missing from a private server used by Clinton when she was Secretary of State. [Redacted: Harm to Ongoing Matter] WikiLeaks began releasing Podesta’s stolen emails on October 7, 2016, less than one hour after a U.S. media outlet released video considered damaging to candidate Trump. Section III of this Report details the Office's investigation into the Russian hacking operations, as well as other efforts by Trump Campaign supporters to obtain Clinton-related email.

    The Russian contacts consisted of business connections, offers of assistance to the Campaign, invitations for candidate Trump and Putin to meet in person, invitations for Campaign officials and representatives of the Russian government to meet, and policy positions seeking improved U.S.-Russian relations. Section IV of this Report details the contacts between Russia and the Trump Campaign during the campaign and transition periods, the most salient of which are summarized below in chronological order.

    2015. Some of the earliest contacts were made in connection with a Trump Organization real-estate project in Russia known as Trump Tower Moscow. Candidate Trump signed a Letter of Intent for Trump Tower Moscow by November 2015, and in January 2016 Trump Organization executive Michael Cohen emailed and spoke about the project with the office of Russian government press secretary Dmitry Peskov. The Trump Organization pursued the project through at least June 2016, including by considering travel to Russia by Cohen and candidate Trump.

    Spring 2016. Campaign foreign policy advisor George Papadopoulos made early contact with Joseph Mifsud, a London-based professor who had connections to Russia and traveled to Moscow in April 2016. Immediately upon his return to London from that trip, Mifsud told Papadopoulos that the Russian government had "dirt" on Hillary Clinton in the form of thousands of emails. One week later, in the first week of May 2016, Papadopoulos suggested to a representative of a foreign government that the Trump Campaign had received indications from the Russian government that it could assist the Campaign through the anonymous release of information damaging to candidate Clinton. Throughout that period of time and for several months thereafter, Papadopoulos worked with Mifsud and two Russian nationals to arrange a meeting between the Campaign and the Russian government.

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/full-text-mueller-reports-executive-summaries
     
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    Summer 2016. Russian outreach to the Trump Campaign continued into the summer of 2016, as candidate Trump was becoming the presumptive Republican nominee for President. On June 9, 2016, for example, a Russian lawyer met with senior Trump Campaign officials Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and campaign chairman Paul Manafort to deliver what the email proposing the meeting had described as "official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary."

    Days after the June 9 meeting, on June 14, 2016, a cybersecurity firm and the DNC announced that Russian government hackers had infiltrated the DNC and obtained access to opposition research on candidate Trump, among other documents.

    In July 2016, Campaign foreign policy advisor Carter Page traveled in his personal capacity to Moscow and gave the keynote address at the New Economic School. Page had lived and worked in Russia between 2003 and 2007. After returning to the United States, Page became acquainted with at least two Russian intelligence officers, one of whom was later charged in 2015 with conspiracy to act as an unregistered agent of Russia. Page's July 2016 trip to Moscow and his advocacy for pro-Russian foreign policy drew media attention. The Campaign then distanced itself from Page and, by late September 2016, removed him from the Campaign.

    July 2016 was also the month WikiLeaks first released emails stolen by the GRU from the DNC. On July 22, 2016, WikiLeaks posted thousands of internal DNC documents revealing information about the Clinton Campaign. Within days, there was public reporting that U.S. intelligence agencies had "high confidence" that the Russian government was behind the theft of emails and documents from the DNC. And within a week of the release, a foreign government informed the FBI about its May 2016 interaction with Papadopoulos and his statement that the Russian government could assist the Trump Campaign. On July 31, 2016, based on the foreign government reporting, the FBI opened an investigation into potential coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the Trump Campaign.

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/full-text-mueller-reports-executive-summaries
     
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    Separately, on August 2, 2016, Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort met in New York City with his long-time business associate Konstantin Kilimnik, who the FBI assesses to have ties to Russian intelligence. Kilimnik requested the meeting to deliver in person a peace plan for Ukraine that Manafort acknowledged to the Special Counsel's Office was a "backdoor" way for Russia to control part of eastern Ukraine; both men believed the plan would require candidate Trump's assent to succeed (were he to be elected President). They also discussed the status of the Trump Campaign and Manafort's strategy for winning Democratic votes in Midwestern states. Months before that meeting, Manafort had caused internal polling data to be shared with Kilimnik, and the sharing continued for some period of time after their August meeting.

    Fall 2016. On October 7, 2016, the media released video of candidate Trump speaking in graphic terms about women years earlier, which was considered damaging to his candidacy. Less than an hour later, WikiLeaks made its second release: thousands of John Podesta's emails that had been stolen by the GRU in late March 2016. The FBI and other U.S. government institutions were at the time continuing their investigation of suspected Russian government efforts to interfere in the presidential election. That same day, October 7, the Department of Homeland Security and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence issued a joint public statement "that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations." Those "thefts" and the "disclosures" of the hacked materials through online platforms such as WikiLeaks, the statement continued, "are intended to interfere with the US election process."

    and even more- but here is the link-

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/full-text-mueller-reports-executive-summaries
     
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  12. Nostra

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    It's over. Give it up.

    Accept reality.
     
  13. now_what

    now_what Mayor Supporting Member

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    Smart move. You are happier in an echo chamber, hiding your eyes from any opposing views. It ensures that you stay as ignorant as possible. Good job.
     
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  14. Jen

    Jen meh

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    It is obvious you didn't understand my post.
    How do people as dumb as you are think they can come on and launch attacks on things that weren't even said.

    Dang.
     
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  15. Jen

    Jen meh

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    There are some really stupid people on this board right now.
    I cringe when I see they have posted to me.
     
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  16. now_what

    now_what Mayor Supporting Member

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    “I am not opening a single Lefty post. They are trash posts.”

    Weak.
     
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  17. Jen

    Jen meh

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    Convenient omission of my words "right now".
    Changes the meaning entirely.
    But you don't care, do you.
    I stand by my assessment that you are pretty low on intelligence.
    Let me explain it to you in baby words (not that that will help).
    As long as Lefty keeps finding excuses that make the Mueller report somehow not finished, I won't be opening their posts.

    Post any whining attempt at a rebuttal, but your initial response was based on the misinterpretation of what I posted. It was irrelevant.
     
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  18. now_what

    now_what Mayor Supporting Member

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    I agree that “right now” makes it temporary, but it is still hiding your eyes from opposing views. This is why you are more comfortable with trinnity. No opposition, just sit with your narrow minded thoughts and insult everybody that doesn’t agree with you. Sad way to be.
     
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  19. Mick

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    All of this long-winded huffing and puffing by homoJim which boils down to this single conclusion from Mueller himself:

    "The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."


    Ouch. The mentally ill just keep on getting sicker and sicker and detached from reality. Poor, sick homoJim.
     
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  20. Jen

    Jen meh

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    It would be a sad way to be. It sounds like your way though. Not mine.
    I am quite comfortable here. Always have been.

    I have no patience for idiots. That's all.
    I am guessing Trinnity hurt your widdle feewings. LOLOLOLOLOLOL
     

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