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Discussion in 'Latest Political News and Current Events' started by Charcat, Aug 3, 2018.

  1. Charcat

    Charcat One of the Patsy's

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    after all hell breaks out in Portland this weekend?

    "And as a Trump-era wave of rightwing street protest continues, it is not clear that American cities, or police forces, are willing or able to prevent the violence that accompanies them, some experts and activists say.

    Patriot Prayer was founded by the rightwing Senate candidate Joey Gibson and its stated beliefs are not neo-Nazi or white supremacist. Like the Proud Boys group, with whom Patriot Prayer’s membership often overlaps, Gibson’s positions are best described as conservative Republican, or Trumpian."

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/p...er-charlottesville/ar-BBLrnNS?ocid=spartandhp

    "Gibson describes himself politically as a "moderate libertarian",[9][10] but his organization has been described in the media as "alt-right".[11][12] Gibson denies that his group is alt-right, and has disavowed white supremacists who frequently appear at his events.[13][14][15][16][17]

    Gibson supports a pathway to citizenship for non-criminal illegal immigrants. He supports decriminalization of marijuana, and same-sex marriage.[18] Gibson advocates for establishment of term limits for the U.S. Congress, implementation of a national sales tax, and abolition of the Internal Revenue Service.[19] He opposes what he describes as undue influence of the pharmaceutical industry on healthcare in the United States.[14]

    During a March 2018 campaign rally in Spokane Valley, Washington, Gibson expressed opposition to Antifa, a group that frequently protests at his events, and said regarding white nationalists, "I would say the same thing to them that I would say to any black nationalist or Mexican nationalists [sic] group, we have to drop the identity of politics and focus on what is on the inside."[20] He has said freedom of speech is a central element to his platform."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Gibson_(political_activist)
     
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  2. Old Ridge Runner

    Old Ridge Runner Mayor

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    What is a non-criminal illegal alien? If they are here illegally that make them criminals.
     
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  3. Charcat

    Charcat One of the Patsy's

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    I agree.
     
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  4. Drumcollie

    Drumcollie Ending Racism with or without Hillary

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    How can some one not be a criminal if illegal? Wait for it...

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  5. middleview

    middleview President Supporting Member

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    If only Gibson weren't calling for his followers to come to Portland ready for a fight you'd almost think he wasn't all that extreme.

    https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch...ayer-and-proud-boys-roll-portland-ready-fight

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...alleged-attack-man-patriot-prayer-joey-gibson
     
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  6. Charcat

    Charcat One of the Patsy's

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    Southern Poverty Law Center?? Really??

    The Guardian?? Really??
    "The paper's readership is generally on the mainstream left of British political opinion.[3][4] The newspaper's reputation as a platform for liberal and left-wing editorial has led to the use of the "Guardian reader" and "Guardianista" as often (but not always) pejorative epithets for those of left-leaning or politically correct tendencies.[5][6][7] "
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian

    In Portland, if you are at all conservative, you had better be "ready for a fight" if you plan on meeting as a group.
     
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  7. Dawg

    Dawg President Supporting Member

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    if deported and illegally returned, it's a felony and why the Marines felony wife was deported again today...………...
     
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  8. Dawg

    Dawg President Supporting Member

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  9. middleview

    middleview President Supporting Member

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    wikipedia...really?
     
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  10. John Doe

    John Doe #WALKAWAY

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    You liberals LOVE that, like snopes and politifact. Yall post that like revelations from the mount. Ad Homed if you do, Ad homed if you don't...
     
  11. Mr. Friscus

    Mr. Friscus I think, therefore, I poop

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    Odd that people who independently organize a legal protest are somehow "provocative" when conservatives but are so necessary and justified when liberal.

    Conservatives are allowed to protest and march for causes too, and it should be condemned by everyone if anyone tries to shut them down through violence or massive intimidation.

    Overall, it's the leftists that cannot handle Conservative expression. The totalitarian language coming from leftists today is creepy, and the playbook is mildly effective. However, it comes at a price. Most Americans don't like the radical left, even if the media continues to desperately try to convince them of it.
     
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  12. middleview

    middleview President Supporting Member

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    I was pointing out the fact that @Charcat dismissed the SPLC and the Guardian as sources...I could just as easily dismiss Wikipedia.

    The fact is that you have to look at the individual article and see if it supports the facts with footnotes on sources.
     
  13. redtide

    redtide Mayor

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    Then southern poverty law center is a racist organization and a poverty pimp
     
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  14. EatTheRich

    EatTheRich Senator

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    Unlawful presence is a civil offense, not a crime.
     
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  15. redtide

    redtide Mayor

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    WRONG
     
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  16. middleview

    middleview President Supporting Member

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  17. JackDallas

    JackDallas Senator Supporting Member

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    The Antifa thugs are the instigators of the trouble but the individual city and or state government are responsible because they refuse to shut them down quickly, decisively and with appropriate punishment. I'd like to see some cracked skulls, broken bones and people taken to emergency rooms while screaming Police Brutality.
     
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  18. Jen

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    Nancy Pelosi (in her senile stupor) has stated, and other Lefties have deemed that illegal immigrants that have not broken any laws can and should be here. Apparently she doesn't know what the word "illegal" means.

    Her little Lefty Minions............. are too stupid to do anything but agree with her.
     
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  19. Jen

    Jen #walkaway

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    What do you call someone too stupid to know what "illegal" means?

    LEFTY.
     
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  20. redtide

    redtide Mayor

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    so since you have nothing to actually support your position of hate you are trying semantics? how sad for you
     

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