Toady Openly Lifelong Bachelor Lindsay Graham Tells Trump to Learn Science and Admit Climate Change

[RickWA]

No. If not for the resistance of the capitalist class, socialism would have no need for government and bureaucrats. The growth of the bureaucratic state (capitalist or socialist) is a direct result of intense class struggle.

Socialist “experiments” have not failed. If establishing communism is scaling Mount Everest, the socialist movement has established a base camp (against the violent resistance of bandits), and you reproach them because they haven’t yet reached the summit.

Can’t speak for Lukey, but I “reproach” them because they destroy liberty. Liberty used to be a “first thing” for America. In fact, it is the reason for our very inception and founding.

...and you want to take that away.

So...yes...reproach, rebuke, scorn - and above all, fight-to-the-death refusal to comply. Liberty is a non-negotiable. Real Americans will not trade it for security in any form. I don’t care how many cowards and sloths emerge from ensuing generations, this is unacceptable trash. Miserable, soul-crushing, spirit-breaking trash.

You folks want healthcare paid for...”food security”...a roof over your heads? Get off your pockmarked arses and work for it. Work hard. Work three jobs if that’s what it takes.

Or move. Go piss away someone else’s heritage. Go establish a colony of likeminded slackers and mooches.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

No. If not for the resistance of the capitalist class, socialism would have no need for government and bureaucrats. The growth of the bureaucratic state (capitalist or socialist) is a direct result of intense class struggle.

Socialist “experiments” have not failed. If establishing communism is scaling Mount Everest, the socialist movement has established a base camp (against the violent resistance of bandits), and you reproach them because they haven’t yet reached the summit.

So the only problem with socialism is capitalism? All righty then...

 

[Deleted member 21794]

The "IPCC" report?

The same IPCC that has been caught manipulating and destroying data?

What a joke.

And the more wrong they are, the more sure they are they're correct. These people are INSANE.

 

[Deleted member 21794]

No. If not for the resistance of the capitalist class, socialism would have no need for government and bureaucrats. The growth of the bureaucratic state (capitalist or socialist) is a direct result of intense class struggle.

Socialist “experiments” have not failed. If establishing communism is scaling Mount Everest, the socialist movement has established a base camp (against the violent resistance of bandits), and you reproach them because they haven’t yet reached the summit.

So we're supposed to destroy capitalism across the planet and trust some kook internet troll that then and only then will we achieve communist utopia.

Wow.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Let's take a quote from your own link...
"IPCC reports assume that recent solar activity is insignificant for climate change, and that the same will apply to activity in the near future."

Regardless, you said it had "no effect." Now we have established that it, in fact, does. Are they correct about the extent of that effect? Probably about as correct as they were when they said that we'd all be dead by now if we didn't abandon our capitalist economy.

 

[Nostra]

Regardless, you said it had "no effect." Now we have established that it, in fact, does. Are they correct about the extent of that effect? Probably about as correct as they were when they said that we'd all be dead by now if we didn't abandon our capitalist economy.

The idiot didn't even realize by bringing that quote he destroyed his own position taken earlier in the thread.

The Cult is based on so many lies they can't keep up with them.

 

[Dawg]

Lindsey fixing to get him a woman and some more:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/lindsey-graham-promises-his-own-“deep-dive”-after-doj-inspector-general-report/ar-AAEjIJw?ocid=spartandhp

 

[EatTheRich]

Can’t speak for Lukey, but I “reproach” them because they destroy liberty. Liberty used to be a “first thing” for America. In fact, it is the reason for our very inception and founding.

...and you want to take that away.

So...yes...reproach, rebuke, scorn - and above all, fight-to-the-death refusal to comply. Liberty is a non-negotiable. Real Americans will not trade it for security in any form. I don’t care how many cowards and sloths emerge from ensuing generations, this is unacceptable trash. Miserable, soul-crushing, spirit-breaking trash.

You folks want healthcare paid for...”food security”...a roof over your heads? Get off your pockmarked arses and work for it. Work hard. Work three jobs if that’s what it takes.

Or move. Go piss away someone else’s heritage. Go establish a colony of likeminded slackers and mooches.

So your idea of liberty is endless toil for the masses so that the wealthy are free to accumulate untold fortunes. Whereas my idea of liberty is NOT having to toe the boss’s line 120 of the 168 hours of my week to avoid starvation.

 

[EatTheRich]

So the only problem with socialism is capitalism? All righty then...

You are the one who attacked socialism for applying capitalist methods to environmental questions ...

 

[EatTheRich]

So we're supposed to destroy capitalism across the planet and trust some kook internet troll that then and only then will we achieve communist utopia.

Wow.

1. Giant straw man. No one is asserting that communism will be a utopia.
2. It is evident that the only future capitalism can offer is one of fascism, war, depression, and environmental devastation.
3. The fact that the capitalists find it necessary to spend trillions and kill millions to sabotage socialism suggests that they, at least, fear the example of socialism allowed to develop freely.

 

[EatTheRich]

Regardless, you said it had "no effect." Now we have established that it, in fact, does. Are they correct about the extent of that effect? Probably about as correct as they were when they said that we'd all be dead by now if we didn't abandon our capitalist economy.

Link to when they said that.

 

[Nostra]

So your idea of liberty is endless toil for the masses so that the wealthy are free to accumulate untold fortunes. Whereas my idea of liberty is NOT having to toe the boss’s line 120 of the 168 hours of my week to avoid starvation.

When did that become a requirement for welfare and foid stamps?

 

[EatTheRich]

When did that become a requirement for welfare and foid stamps?

For all practical purposes, with the Welfare Reform signed by Clinton. Anyway, the only reason workers get back part of the surplus value the capitalists take from them in the form of welfare and food stamps is class struggle.

 

[Dawg]

So your idea of liberty is endless toil for the masses so that the wealthy are free to accumulate untold fortunes. Whereas my idea of liberty is NOT having to toe the boss’s line 120 of the 168 hours of my week to avoid starvation.

LMAO...………...so you are seriously saying you work 17.15 hours daily...…..
Book store must pay poorly if you must work that many hours to keep from starving or eat a hellofa lot!

Especially, when you are here majority of the time you claim you are working.

 

[Nostra]

For all practical purposes, with the Welfare Reform signed by Clinton. Anyway, the only reason workers get back part of the surplus value the capitalists take from them in the form of welfare and food stamps is class struggle.

Really? Link me up to where Clinton made welfare recipients work 168 hours a week.

Watch this dodge......

 

[EatTheRich]

LMAO...………...so you are seriously saying you work 17.15 hours daily...…..
Book store must pay poorly if you must work that many hours to keep from starving or eat a hellofa lot!

Especially, when you are here majority of the time you claim you are working.

No, I work about 44 hours a week. But the other poster was saying workers should have to work 3 jobs to keep their heads above water if the market decides that’s what it takes.

 

[EatTheRich]

Really? Link me up to where Clinton made welfare recipients work 168 hours a week.

Watch this dodge......

Link to where I said he did. Or explain why I’m responsible for linking to something I never said and don’t believe.

 

[NinaS]

The issue gets short shrift and deserves to. It’s a topic not high on voters’ lists of priorities and it’s not like the Democrats have a reasonable plan to stop or reverse this “problem”.
The amount man has impacted normal climatic change and the amount it can be repaired or if such repair is even possible are all debatable issues that can be handled without an environmentalist agenda that puts millions out of work or impacts our economy negatively.
Graham is wrong on this, as are all the other “former” and “ex-“ Republicans who now seemingly all obtained climatologist degrees.

So, like Trump, you think you know more than the Scientists? Where did you get your degree....Trump College?

 

[NinaS]

States with Green electricity cost have soared, this is 2014

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2014/10/17/electricity-prices-soaring-in-top-10-wind-power-states/#45a424f36112

Those big tall wind turban's also kill a lot of animals.

*they must have put jim to bed!

Trump says the wind turbans cause cancer. Do you believe that as well?

 

[Dino]

So, like Trump, you think you know more than the Scientists? Where did you get your degree....Trump College?

The “Scientists”? Are they that religiously significant that you’ve capitalized the name of the sect?
I don’t know more than scientists, I choose to listen to the honest and reasonable ones.