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Trump calls immigrants "animals"

Jen

Senator
You CAN'T be that stupid. Can you? NOBODY can be that stupid, and still breathe....

The MS stands for Mara Salvatrucha, said to be a combination of Mara, meaning gang, Salva, for Salvador, and trucha, which translates roughly into street smarts. The 13 represents the position of M in the alphabet.
MS-13 established a reputation for extreme violence and for killing with machetes. It took root in neighbourhoods dominated by Mexican gangs, and later expanded to other parts of the country.

According to the FBI, the gang has spread to 46 states.

In 2012, the US Treasury designated the gang a "transnational criminal organisation". It was the first street gang to receive the dubious honour, placing it alongside much larger international cartels like the Mexican Zetas, Japanese Yakuza and Italian Camorra.

Brutal initiations
MS-13 has been accused of recruiting poor and at-risk teenagers. Joining is said to require being "jumped in" - subjected to a vicious 13-second beating - and "getting wet" - carrying out a crime, often a murder, for the gang.

Leaving is potentially even more dangerous. Large chest tattoos brand members for life, and some factions are said to murder members who attempt to leave.
A 2008 FBI threat assessment put the size of MS-13 between 6,000 and 10,000 members in the US, making it one of the largest criminal enterprises in the country.

It is now larger outside the country, according to the agency. An anti-gang crackdown in the late 1990s saw hundreds of early members shipped back to Central American countries, where they established offshoots. Estimates put the number of members in Central American countries at at least 60,000.

The gang's annual revenue is about $31.2m (£23.4m) according to information from a large-scale Salvadorean police operation obtained by the El Faro newspaper - mainly from from drugs and extortion.

'Kill, rape, control'
Recent high-profile cases linked to the gang include the murder of two female high-school students who were attacked with a machete and baseball bat as they walked through their neighbourhood in New York last month - a revenge attack over a minor dispute, according to police.

Four alleged MS-13 members were charged with that crime. Another two alleged members were charged at the same time with the murder of a fellow gang member said to have violated gang protocol.
The same month, two alleged members of the gang in Houston, Texas were charged with kidnapping three teenage girls, holding them hostage and raping them before shooting one dead on the side of the road.

Miguel Alvarez-Flores, 22, and Diego Hernandez-Rivera, 18, laughed and waved at the cameras during their court appearance.

MS-13's motto is "kill, rape, control", according to one FBI gang specialist who investigated the group.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39645640
Yes. She can be that stupid, @Barbella , and it appears she is.
 

Barbella

Senator
I like how you pretend that Trump has said anything positive about any such immigrants. He slurs them all.

It’s all about the “context,” is it?

;-)
What positive IS there to MS-13 gang members? Got any? What... you admire their tattoos? Or maybe the way they slash and burn people to death? Beat them, rape them, cold-bloodedly MURDER them for no reason at all?
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
What positive IS there to MS-13 gang members? Got any? What... you admire their tattoos? Or maybe the way they slash and burn people to death? Beat them, rape them, cold-bloodedly MURDER them for no reason at all?
You’re just pretending to be dopey enough to think this concerns only MS-13 members.

Don’t sell your dignity for your cult leaders.
 

Barbella

Senator
You’re just pretending to be dopey enough to think this concerns only MS-13 members.

Don’t sell your dignity for your cult leaders.
Go scratch. Trump said what he said during a discussion about GANGS, not about your grandmother.

And he is 100% right.
 

Addy

Rebuild With Biden!
Hello Liar....

The Crab fishing industry is shutting down because of over fishing....

Not because of labor shortage.

BTW....do you support slave labor? I thought you were anti-slavery.

JO
In some places that could be true.... in Maryland, it's a shortage of workers....
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Crab crisis: Maryland seafood industry loses 40 percent of work force in visa lottery
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-crab-visa-shortage-20180502-story.html
 

Joe in Tulsa

Council Member
Trump didn't say gang members... He said immigrants
I didn't see the word "immigrants" in the quote, he said "people". Some people might take it that he was talking about the bad guys coming in, he did mention how bad some are. Some others assume he was talking about ALL immigrants. I think you see what you want to see, mostly guided by your politics.
 

EatTheRich

President
I am....very proud of him....these are ALL ANIMALS
You will think so too when they rape your kids, grand kids while you watch and then brand you with a cigarette tatoo...unfortunately that's what will have to happen to you before you wake up. These are the murderers of the Innocent Mexican people....the predators who sneak in under a pretense of immigration and terrorize legitimate American communities of Mexican heritage.

And you encourage it ....not very liberal of you now is it?

JO
Opening the borders and legalizing all immigrants would eliminate the underground mass of "illegals" among which the cartels can hide.
 

EatTheRich

President
In a discussion about GANG MEMBERS. Why are you so goddamn dishonest?

"We have people coming into the country, or trying to come in -- and we're stopping a lot of them," Trump said during the immigration round table after a sheriff commented about gangs. "You wouldn't believe how bad these people are. These aren't people. These are animals."
And he was scapegoating Latin Americans for the gang problem. There were notoriously Jewish gangs operating in the U.S. in the 1940s ... what would you say about a politician then who said, " You have these Jews, they're not even people, they're animals"?
 

EatTheRich

President
I didn't see the word "immigrants" in the quote, he said "people". Some people might take it that he was talking about the bad guys coming in, he did mention how bad some are. Some others assume he was talking about ALL immigrants. I think you see what you want to see, mostly guided by your politics.
I guess you have you put it in context by considering his earlier comments ... for example, when he said Mexican immigrants were bringing drugs and crime and were rapists.
 

Constitutional Sheepdog

][][][%er!!!!!!!
Thanks to Twitter? You, being a Trump toadie, shouldn't praise Twitter. There's nothing that is out there that makes more of an ass out of your ass*hole president than Twitter. He spills his ugly guts on Twitter and it makes him look like the swine he is.
And on Thursday, Trump was more precise with his language.

“MS-13, these are animals. They’re coming into our country, we are getting them out. They come in again. We are getting them out,” he said. “So when the MS-13 comes in, when the other gang members come into our country, I refer to them as animals. And guess what? I always will.”
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
You CAN'T be that stupid. Can you? NOBODY can be that stupid, and still breathe....

The MS stands for Mara Salvatrucha, said to be a combination of Mara, meaning gang, Salva, for Salvador, and trucha, which translates roughly into street smarts. The 13 represents the position of M in the alphabet.
MS-13 established a reputation for extreme violence and for killing with machetes. It took root in neighbourhoods dominated by Mexican gangs, and later expanded to other parts of the country.

According to the FBI, the gang has spread to 46 states.

In 2012, the US Treasury designated the gang a "transnational criminal organisation". It was the first street gang to receive the dubious honour, placing it alongside much larger international cartels like the Mexican Zetas, Japanese Yakuza and Italian Camorra.

Brutal initiations
MS-13 has been accused of recruiting poor and at-risk teenagers. Joining is said to require being "jumped in" - subjected to a vicious 13-second beating - and "getting wet" - carrying out a crime, often a murder, for the gang.

Leaving is potentially even more dangerous. Large chest tattoos brand members for life, and some factions are said to murder members who attempt to leave.
A 2008 FBI threat assessment put the size of MS-13 between 6,000 and 10,000 members in the US, making it one of the largest criminal enterprises in the country.

It is now larger outside the country, according to the agency. An anti-gang crackdown in the late 1990s saw hundreds of early members shipped back to Central American countries, where they established offshoots. Estimates put the number of members in Central American countries at at least 60,000.

The gang's annual revenue is about $31.2m (£23.4m) according to information from a large-scale Salvadorean police operation obtained by the El Faro newspaper - mainly from from drugs and extortion.

'Kill, rape, control'
Recent high-profile cases linked to the gang include the murder of two female high-school students who were attacked with a machete and baseball bat as they walked through their neighbourhood in New York last month - a revenge attack over a minor dispute, according to police.

Four alleged MS-13 members were charged with that crime. Another two alleged members were charged at the same time with the murder of a fellow gang member said to have violated gang protocol.
The same month, two alleged members of the gang in Houston, Texas were charged with kidnapping three teenage girls, holding them hostage and raping them before shooting one dead on the side of the road.

Miguel Alvarez-Flores, 22, and Diego Hernandez-Rivera, 18, laughed and waved at the cameras during their court appearance.

MS-13's motto is "kill, rape, control", according to one FBI gang specialist who investigated the group.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39645640
Your fatherland called human beings animals, those who weren't blond and blue-eyed. Trump is just like them.
 

Constitutional Sheepdog

][][][%er!!!!!!!
Opening the borders and legalizing all immigrants would eliminate the underground mass of "illegals" among which the cartels can hide.
America is a sovereign nation and sovereign nation have laws and borders.
If we do as you suggest and someone comes into the country and kills someone and leaves how do we get them back and pay for their crime?
 
"We have people coming into the country, or trying to come in -- and we're stopping a lot of them," Trump said during the immigration round table after a sheriff commented about gangs. "You wouldn't believe how bad these people are. These aren't people. These are animals."

That's your man, Trumpies. How proud you must be!
Your lack of a link betrays your lies.
 
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