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Trump could be the most honest president in modern history

Discussion in 'Latest Political News and Current Events' started by Barbella, Oct 12, 2018.

  1. Barbella

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    JackDallas Senator Supporting Member

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    How did that hope and change work out for you? How about when Obama said his administration would be the most transparent government in history? Did you believe him?
     
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    yet? Did he promise to pay it off in his first fiscal year? You are so dishonest.

    And he tried to repeal and replace Obamacare, remember McCain's famous thumbs down vote? You are so dishonest.

    And the GDP is growing, and the economy is healthier, and there are more jobs... You are so dishonest.
     
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    He has tried to keep his promises. And he made specific promises.

    Obama didn't make any specific promises so he didn't have to keep any. But Obama was pretending to be honest and open, meanwhile his presidency was anything but...
     
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    No, he tried to repeal without replacement, remember? And the GDP is falling and the economy is weakening.
     
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    His promises: “I’m gonna make everything better.” And you think he gets credit for trying and failing?
     
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  9. sear

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    Trump could be the most honest president in modern history
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    Trump is a compulsive liar.
    a) No it isn't.

    b) No Trump isn't.

    c) Whether ignorantly or intentionally you're overlooking the non-reciprocity of lying.

    A person that's lied his entire life can on his deathbed make one truthful statement, & then expire. That one truthful statement does NOT render him truthful.

    BUT !!

    A person that's been truthful his entire life can on his deathbed make one lie, & then expire. That one lie renders him a liar.
    It can't be honestly said of Trump that he "keeps his promises" unless he keeps them all.
    He won't.
    1) Trump promised to indefinitely suspend immigration from Muslim majority nations.
    2) Trump promised to depart all illegal aliens from the U.S.
    3) Trump promised to build a wall, and Mexico would pay for it.

    Trump has either already broken each of these, or will have done so by the end of his term.
     
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    The Republican economy isn't growing, its just more risky.
    Deregulation... More risk
    A tax break, levering up the government... More risk.

    Risk is the variability of returns. That variability is going to play out on the downside as well.
     
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    OF #10

    Right. Remember, the Bush recession was assisted by the revocation of Glass-Steagle.
    I'm not sure Dodd-Frank provides adequate replacement.

    In so far as there could be said to be a "natural" cycle to it, Boom / Bust seems to be the default cycle. And the fact that Obama lifted us out of the Bush recession doesn't mean we're not careening toward the next bust portion of the cycle.

    Skillfully regulated national and global economies can substantially diminish the busts.
    But the $rich don't care.

    "It's another example of mismanagement in corporate America where we're now expected as tax payers to bail them out. They're capitalists when they make money. But they're socialists when they lose money."

    Actor Tim Robins, commenting on a California commercial electric power crisis
     
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  12. Bugsy McGurk

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    And where’s that wall paid for by Mexico?

    ;-)
     
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    Donald “5,000 lies” Trump - viewed in Trumplandia as the “most honest president in modern history.”

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...tics/donald-trump-truth-facts-lies/index.html

    Why are you limiting that to “modern” presidents? Is he second in honesty to Honest Abe?

    ;-)
     
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  14. Bugsy McGurk

    Bugsy McGurk President

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    And when is he going to “drain the swamp”?

    He has stuffed his government with nothing but Goldman Sachs alum, lobbyists, lackeys and hacks.
     
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    Don't you remember when he promised to hire the most qualified people to important posts in his administration (and fire them if they disagreed with him)?
     
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  16. YouCantHandleDaTruth

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    This is false, Benedict Donald lies more than the average sane person

    This is false,

    From a less racist and more credible source Red Don is doing horrible relative to other presidents.

    Americans don't like Russian traitors like your (g)od Benedict Donald.

    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/
     
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  17. YouCantHandleDaTruth

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    It would be if Benedict Donald's success rate was at least on par with other presidents
     
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    Worked out great and got the economy back up and running after The Republican Great Recession.

    They tried and did better than average
     
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  19. YouCantHandleDaTruth

    YouCantHandleDaTruth Mayor

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    This is false on its face

    Obama Kept or compromised on 75% of his promises

    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/
     
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